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TII Motorway Service Areas (MSA) Progress Thread

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  • #1352
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,710 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The Cashel Mcdonald's has a drive Thru!


  • #1353
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭jd


    veryangryman wrote: »
    Passengers could eat i guess?

    As its offline, you also have locals who might fancy a smacs
    It's actually online. That doesn't sop locals. Anyway I prefer to have a drive-through. Drive up, get food, eat in car, rubbish in bin, go.. (with coffee in drinks holder)


  • #1354
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Even if I wasn't eating and driving I'd always rather eat in the car parked up rather than go in so drive throughs are ideal. That said, I'm probably in the minority on that.


  • #1355
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    None of the "official" TII service stations have drive-throughs as far as I'm aware. Presumably they want to stop people eating their burger and chips while driving with one hand down the motorway.


  • #1356
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    To me the new Gorey one is much nicer then coynes , and I use both quite a bit, ionity chargers going in at present so 8 EV charging bays there too soon


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  • #1357
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    BoatMad wrote: »
    To me the new Gorey one is much nicer then coynes , and I use both quite a bit, ionity chargers going in at present so 8 EV charging bays there too soon

    Definitely would rather go into it, haven't been in Coynes since. Far handier for a later stop when going to Wexford too.


  • #1358
    blindsider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    None of the "official" TII service stations have drive-throughs as far as I'm aware. Presumably they want to stop people eating their burger and chips while driving with one hand down the motorway.

    M8 Cashel does....

    https://motorwayservices.ie/Cashel#Facilities


  • #1359
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,419 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    blindsider wrote: »
    M8 Cashel does....

    https://motorwayservices.ie/Cashel#Facilities

    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.


  • #1360
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    That one barely had a car park until about a year ago so you'd have needed to eat driving along anyway.


  • #1361
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭jd


    blindsider wrote: »
    M8 Cashel does....

    https://motorwayservices.ie/Cashel#Facilities


    As others have stated, that is not an official TII service area. Personally, I think it was a disgrace to give it planning permission given the lack of space etc.


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  • #1362
    blindsider
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    blackwhite wrote: »
    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.

    Fair enough - wasn't aware of that. I know it's a pain to get to, but I thought it was 'on-line' as we (Ireland) define it....

    Thanks for the info.


  • #1363
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    blindsider wrote: »
    blackwhite wrote: »
    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.

    Fair enough - wasn't aware of that. I know it's a pain to get to, but I thought it was 'on-line' as we (Ireland) define it....

    Thanks for the info.

    Open to correction, here, but I think the official TII services have blue motorway signs, while the non-official services have brown signs.


  • #1364
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    BelfastVanMan wrote: »
    Open to correction, here, but I think the official TII services have blue motorway signs, while the non-official services have brown signs.

    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.


  • #1365
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,419 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.

    Yes.

    Offline means you leave the motorway at the junction and can re-enter, or continue your journey on non-MW road.

    Online services are ones where you can only access from the MW, and can only leave by re-entering the MW.



    The official, online service areas are listed at https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/operations-and-maintenance/motorway-service-areas/


  • #1366
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭jd


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.
    At Moorepark, Fermoy? That's not official. If it's "bolted on" to a normal junction you can generally take it is not official.


  • #1367
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Makes sense, hadn't thought of the layout at all. Cheers.


  • #1368
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,529 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Was in the spanking new Circke K Gorey service area on the M11. Very impressed. Very well laid out, open 24 hours, interior fitted out to a high standard, much superior to the Applegreen ones IMO.

    McDonalds nearly finished and due to open later this week. I would say this will take a good chunk of business away from the offline Applegreen servicrs at Coynes Cross.

    More like this one please!


  • #1369
    OldMrBrennan83
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Was in the spanking new Circke K Gorey service area on the M11. Very impressed. Very well laid out, open 24 hours, interior fitted out to a high standard, much superior to the Applegreen ones IMO.

    McDonalds nearly finished and due to open later this week. I would say this will take a good chunk of business away from the offline Applegreen servicrs at Coynes Cross.

    More like this one please!

    Definitely, there's not a better one in the country.


  • #1370
    ongarboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    https://www.businessworld.ie/news/McDonald-s-brings-45-jobs-to-Gorey-572506.html

    You must have missed the McDonald's opening by minutes! Opened today according to this article.


  • #1371
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Where are we with Athlone and Kilcullen?


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  • #1372
    secman
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    Where are we with Athlone and Kilcullen?

    Fit out of Athlone is presently ongoing, target of August.
    Kilcullen is running a bit behind Athlone.


  • #1373
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1374
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭secman


    flazio wrote: »
    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.

    What makes you think TII isn't the problem ?


  • #1375
    tigerboon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    flazio wrote: »
    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.

    Same contractor, Killeen Civil


  • #1376
    ongarboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?


  • #1377
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,419 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?

    Both were part of the same tender process as Gorey, so should be similar offerings in place.

    Carlow and Fermoy aren't MSAs


  • #1378
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    tigerboon wrote: »


    Same contractor, Killeen Civil
    Well then, his cheques must clear faster or something.
    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?
    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1379
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,419 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    flazio wrote: »
    Well then, his cheques must clear faster or something.

    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.

    McDonalds are specified in the tender documentation.


  • #1380
    serfboard
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    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?
    flazio wrote: »
    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.
    Is it not now almost a rule that if it's Applegreen it's Burger King, and if it's Circle K, it's McDonalds? I'd be interested in any examples that break this "rule".

    It also explains why Supermacs went ahead and built their own!


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  • #1381
    ongarboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    serfboard wrote: »
    Is it not now almost a rule that if it's Applegreen it's Burger King, and if it's Circle K, it's McDonalds? I'd be interested in any examples that break this "rule".

    It also explains why Supermacs went ahead and built their own!

    Maxol seem to be paired with Abrakebabra and Bagel Factory of late while Texaco pairs with Supermacs if I'm not mistaken?


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