Homophobic attack on London bus - mod warning, please see OP

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Why does the fact that a heterosexual couple being attacked wouldn’t make world headlines upset you so much. Maybe. Maybe not. Heterosexual couples are probably safer in displays of affection, though.

What’s the problem here?

are homosexual couples in more danger of attack from normal people in displays of affection?

or is it toerags in groups looking for trouble that are likely to see a trigger- a gay couple, a member of a minority, a group of girls with short skirts, a fella on his own on a walk home, whatever gradation of reason it comes down

these lads werent going home without causing trouble

the correct philosophy of the thread, the thing we are "supposed" to do, is to....what? lets analyse....

i. sympathise (useless activity at such a remove, so cant be the point)
ii. agree that the pertinent item here is one out of many data points (ok, thats interesting.....getting warmer)
iii. agree that this is evidence of....what....? ah, the pertinent group in the data point above must receive lets see....a special status for crimes against them, perhaps? more attention or focus on such crimes at least? lets say, on available evidence, its that
iv. agree that this is a case of 'us' - not members of the pertinent group- either tacitly or actively being responsible for the (now special status) crimes against that group
v. important point- you can, as a non-member of the pertinent group, be a 'good member' by throwing your unthinking support behind this initiative. otherwise
vi. you are a 'bad member' and in full support of the crime having occurred, oh and by the way why do you hate the pertinent group?
vii. any questioning of the above is taking offence, why dont you sympathise, why are you whatabouting, my god is this the kind of world we want, etc etc cesspit handwringing

the angle is to browbeat the majority to dumbly accept some culpability for something they didnt do and dont support. cheerlead or guilt by association.


it is totally on-point to ask every time why, if an event must be viewed through the lens of identity politics, it invariably must be viewed in *only the way suggested* and not, for instance, an investigation into what the relevant characteristics of the actual person responsible might be.

scrotebags be scrotebaggin, y'all. thats not the fault of whites, men, the middle classes, str8s, cis, fffg voters, whatever.

stop hanging collective responsibility on society.

stop framing unpleasant events as more important, serious or relevant if they occur to groups you happen to get more kudos for liking on twitter

start thinking about how to identify and catch people who do this sh1t and ensure they dont ever think about doing it again, in a manner that encourages les autres.

the ills of the world arent caused by people disagreeing with ye online. and starting right-on threads for thanks isnt valuable or productive.

sorry. bad news i know

Billy Mays wrote: »

It's almost as if people are just pulling statements out of their hole and presenting it as fact

Happens a lot on here

does it

have you anything to back that up

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Because heterosexual couples dont get targeted for being heterosexual obviously.

i spose the point being that

the toerags who did this werent going home without somebody getting it. i dont know anything about the details beyond what's reported and frankly its being reported at an angle anyway

the focus on getting this categorised as a hate crime under a specific politicised vehicle wants you to look *here* not *there*

rather than rush to focus on the characteristics of the victim, seems to me and others that it might be good to focus on the group that battered and robbed a gay couple this time, next time a mexican fella, last time a straight couple.

again:

are normal people likely to attack and rob a gay couple?

if not, it seems fair and relevant to look at what factors differentiate the attackers from normal people.

not to castigate normal people for not jumping in with online nods.