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Homophobic attack on London bus - mod warning, please see OP

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    #1232
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Beasty wrote: »
    I've just deleted a number of posts which contravene my prior warning. Anyone else raising the topic of Muslims in this thread will face a card or ban and will also be banned from posting in this thread again

    Just to ask if/when its revealed that the perpetrators were muslims is it valid to discuss again or is it off the table regardless ?


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    #1233
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,318 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Just to ask if/when its revealed that the perpetrators were muslims is it valid to discuss again or is it off the table regardless ?
    Do not post in this thread again

    Next time you will be banned from the forum


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    #1234
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Just as suspected, Chris threw the first punch ..


    https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1200096159097933829


    She's lucky, what with London's propensity for knife crime, her life didn't end that night.

    These lads were utter scum, there's no question about that but the only message that should be taken from all this is that if you're female (or indeed outnumbered young males) on a night out and scumbags start harassing you, throwing coins (and/or being aggressively sexual suggestive towards you - as was the case here) get the fcuk away from them as quickly as your legs can carry you!

    This footage should be an advert for what NOT to do in a similar situation.


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    #1235
    spodoinkle
    Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭spodoinkle


    Looks like the guy was defending himself the only attacker there is the blonde.


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    #1236
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 7,867 ✭✭✭Christy42


    They were charged with harassment. Which occured before the assualt. Can't well say they were harassing in self defense before anyone was attacked?

    I also missed the self defense lesson that involved stealing a handbag?


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    #1237
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,784 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Just as suspected, Chris threw the first punch ..


    https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1200096159097933829


    She's lucky, what with London's propensity for knife crime, her life didn't end that night.

    These lads were utter scum, there's no question about that but the only message that should be taken from all this is that if you're female (or indeed outnumbered young males) on a night out and scumbags start harassing you, throwing coins (and/or being aggressively sexual suggestive towards you - as was the case here) get the fcuk away from them as quickly as your legs can carry you!

    This footage should be an advert for what NOT to do in a similar situation.

    That link doesn't work for me.

    Edit: works now.

    Didn't she punch him in the chops for stealing her bag?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1238
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Just as suspected, Chris threw the first punch ..


    She's lucky, what with London's propensity for knife crime, her life didn't end that night.

    These lads were utter scum, there's no question about that but the only message that should be taken from all this is that if you're female (or indeed outnumbered young males) on a night out and scumbags start harassing you, throwing coins (and/or being aggressively sexual suggestive towards you - as was the case here) get the fcuk away from them as quickly as your legs can carry you!

    This footage should be an advert for what NOT to do in a similar situation.

    I’m assuming Chris is the blonde woman? (Weird to use a first name like that. Do you know these people?) As she hasn’t been charged with anything, it must be deemed to have been self-defense. So who cares if she threw the first punch? If somebody is defending themselves, they often will. So what’s your point?


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    #1239
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I’m assuming Chris is the blonde woman? (Weird to use a first name like that. Do you know these people?) As she hasn’t been charged with anything, it must be deemed to have been self-defense. So who cares if she threw the first punch? If somebody is defending themselves, they often will. So what’s your point?

    Referring to ppl by their name is a common practice in western societies even when you don't know them personally. In formal situations one might use the persons surname preceded by Mr/Ms but this is commonly dispensed with when the subject isn't present and obviously in cases where the surname is not known. It's unclear exactly how long this has been the case but some historians think it dates as far back to when names were invented, whenever that was.


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    #1240
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Referring to ppl by their name is a common practice in western societies even when you don't know them personally. In formal situations one might use the persons surname preceded by Mr/Ms but this is commonly dispensed with when the subject isn't present and obviously in cases where the surname is not known. It's unclear exactly how long this has been the case but some historians think it dates as far back to when names were invented, whenever that was.

    Thick layers of sarcasm there but it is weird in certain situations to not say the full name or surname. Just using the first name there struck me as odd and, well, I’m also a person who speaks English and that’s my impression. Generally if you don’t know a person, you’ll use their full name or surname. Anything else seems curiously overfamiliar.

    Edit: And most people won’t remember the names of the people involved seeing as it’s a while ago now. So to be like “See, I told you First Name threw the first punch!” will mean little to anybody and is just a bit overly invested.


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