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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,341 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Again - I know this won't go down well.

    But they do look a bit dangerous - even photo there you could see how your COG could shift.

    Drink in the mix they look a bad idea.

    No more dangerous than this

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  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭Annd9


    Sor - You ran a 10k race in a pretty decent time .
    MB - Not for me .

    I can't actually describe that level of arrogance , astonishing stuff .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    If FG dont boot the idiot then they are making a show of themselves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Again - I know this won't go down well.

    But they do look a bit dangerous - even photo there you could see how your COG could shift.

    Drink in the mix they look a bad idea.


    I have a 6, 4 and 2 year old, they can use a f**king swing. You would want to be a pure gob***t to not be able to use it


    Falling off it afterwards and trying to sue someone because of it makes you a crooked gobs**t


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Zeek12 wrote: »
    She clearly felt the "I was hurt" and "I was bullied" lines would play on people's sympathies.

    But what comes across more than anything in that interview is a sense of entitlement.
    And a refusal to answer some key questions to help clear the matter up. She's done nothing to restore any credibility.

    I got so irritated by her I skipped through a lot of the second half. Can anyone tell me did she even address some of the crucial questions?

    Like why was the claim for €60K if you were only looking for medical costs covered?

    Saying you amended the figure on documents later isn't an appropriate answer.
    Why did you submit the claim at such a high figure in the first instance?

    And if only medical expenses were sought, why was this claim taken to the Circuit court?

    But hey, why address these issues when you can just whinge about humanity being crossed (Wtf??), online trolls, bullying........yawn!
    Zeek12 wrote: »
    She clearly felt the "I was hurt" and "I was bullied" lines would play on people's sympathies.

    But what comes across more than anything in that interview is a sense of entitlement.
    And a refusal to answer some key questions to help clear the matter up. She's done nothing to restore any credibility.

    I got so irritated by her I skipped through a lot of the second half. Can anyone tell me did she even address some of the crucial questions?

    Like why was the claim for €60K if you were only looking for medical costs covered?

    Saying you amended the figure on documents later isn't an appropriate answer.
    Why did you submit the claim at such a high figure in the first instance?

    And if only medical expenses were sought, why was this claim taken to the Circuit court?

    But hey, why address these issues when you can just whinge about humanity being crossed (Wtf??), online trolls, bullying........yawn!

    Never addressed one, it was victim, victim, victim the whole way through and she even sunk as low as to play the sexism card:

    "I am a strong female politican and some people don't like that"

    Absolutely pathetic!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Regina Doherty sounded thoroughly unimpressed on SOR after Bailey's interview, and she'd be fairly high in the Fine Gael hierarchy. Bailey's days are numbered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    If FG dont boot the idiot then they are making a show of themselves

    Election potentially in June or September.
    FG would be nuts to run her again so soon after this.

    She should have enough sense to step aside herself really......then again, when has common sense prevailed in any of this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Zeek12 wrote: »
    Election potentially in June or September.
    FG would be nuts to run her again so soon after this.

    She should have enough sense to step aside really.....then again, when has common sense prevailed in any of this!


    Have you listened to the interview? she is a pure wagon

    Think she is 100% right and everyone else are a shower of f**kers....

    Throwing in a working mum etc etc etc.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Regina Doherty sounded thoroughly unimpressed on SOR after Bailey's interview, and she'd be fairly high in the Fine Gael hierarchy. Bailey's days are numbered.

    I put my 15 month old in a sit in swing yesterday and she held on, my child is smarter than a TD. Wonder could I get a bumper sticker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Again - I know this won't go down well.

    But they do look a bit dangerous - even photo there you could see how your COG could shift.

    Drink in the mix they look a bad idea.

    You're right, it won't go down well. It's a swing ffs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Daft - No

    Unique - Yes

    In the age of social media, those swings whether we like it or not are a massive asset for the place as the amount of pics that go up online with the establishment tagged is a real marketing/advertising tool for them.

    Again - I know this won't go down well.

    But they do look a bit dangerous - even photo there you could see how your COG could shift.

    Drink in the mix they look a bad idea.

    Sophies is a more classy joint. If it was in Coppers down the road it would be a bad idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,420 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I used to wonder how a 43 year would need supervision and instructions on how to use a swing.

    Now I'm just wondering how it took her 43 years to get in the news for something like this.

    The interview is amazing :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,111 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Anyone who thinks that swing is a good idea in a pub would want to have their head examined .

    She would have won her case for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Have you listened to the interview? she is a pure wagon

    Think she is 100% right and everyone else are a shower of f**kers....

    Throwing in a working mum etc etc etc.....

    Yeah, I hear you.

    But she's gonna take some abuse if/when she canvasses for election.

    It's an indictment of how out of touch she is if (for her own sake) she can't even recognize that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    That is truly car crash radio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,162 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sit a two year old on a swing like that and their two little hands will instinctively reach for the rope and grab it .
    Poor Marias instincts must be impaired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,420 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Also playing the "strong woman" line is great considering she got injured because she was unsupervised and there was no instructions supplied for a swing :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,899 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    lads, you should have given me a warning about this clip! Ive nearly choked on my dinner several times!!! this was the best one though "what about people who say you might not be fit to represent FG, as it as party of integrity and doing the right thing"

    SOR bring's up Ratadkar, that joke has more to answer for, than she ever will!

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! I'm just after picking myself up off the floor!!!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Having listened to that RTÉ Drivetime piece on the way home, with her SOR interview this morning played, she's well and truly down now. At the very, very best it's a series of bad judgements, including going on SOR today.

    AH response: Time to kick her even harder!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    golfball37 wrote: »
    He does know her- Sean's wife is on the staff of Charlie Flanagan. Small country full of vested interests. No wonder he didn't pursue the 60k question when she twice said she only wanted to recoup her medical expenses.

    I don't listen to him every day, but I've never had the impression that SOR goes easy on any particular political party or group of politicians. As someone said above, he knew it was a car crash, he just handed her more fuel for the fire, she did all the damage herself.

    That's a master of an interviewer, compare that to the bumbling pathetic antics of some of his colleagues like Joe Duffy, Tubridy and D'Arcy (all who are paid way more than him).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Having listened to that RTÉ Drivetime piece on the way home, with her SOR interview this morning played, she's well and truly down now. At the very, very best it's a series of bad judgements, including going on SOR today.

    AH response: Time to kick her even harder!

    Which is the correct response. Step on her neck and make sure she can't get up.

    It's everything she deserves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan



    But surely she will have to pay her own legal expenses?

    There might have been a 'no foal, no fee' arrangement, but for me the big thing is that the bad publicity that she has earned for Madigan's law firm will take a long time to go away.

    Can the hotel counter sue for their own legal expenses and incurred cost of this?

    Assuming that the hotel's insurers were defending the case, they could go after her for their costs, but (i) it might be seen as vindictive and (ii) she has saved them money by pulling out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,701 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Anyone who thinks that swing is a good idea in a pub would want to have their head examined .

    She would have won her case for sure.

    Think you might have mentioned that already


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭thebourke


    she had private health insurance...would that not cover the bills?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Is that known?

    At the same time as the accident, Josepha Madigan (according to Oireachtas declarations of interest) had a business interest in Madigan Solicitors and as far as I know was in their employment.

    Josepha Madigan is declining to comment on whether or not she provided Bailey with a legal opinion, or helped draft the affidavit in which false information was averred.
    It's her brother. Someone here decided it has to be the husband because of the surname. I think both Josepha and her brother worked in family firm that is now run by her brother. They are representing Maria Bailey. Her husband works in advertising


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I think we should stop all these keyboard warriors

    its all the journalists' fault

    If he said nothing then I would have got away with this dodgy claim and would be 60k up

    So you should blame him

    All I was trying to do was rip off the system, you can't blame me

    Latest quote from Maria


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,270 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    thebourke wrote: »
    she had private health insurance...would that not cover the bills?
    She says the hotel had agreed to cover all her bills (including the excess)

    Which naturally explains why she was suing them.

    So another lie there, it appears.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    thebourke wrote: »
    she had private health insurance...would that not cover the bills?


    Course it would....but sure how would she buy a new car if they just cover the bills!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12



    Most of those "SEAN!"s were delivered as a reproach. Like you would to a child who was cheeky or overstepped the mark.
    In truth he had just worked around her facade of "poor me" each time.

    The sheer sense of superiority.

    And entitlement.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Taking these claims seem like a no wager big win gamble. But surely she will have to pay her own legal expenses?
    Can the hotel counter sue for their own legal expenses and incurred cost of this?

    Supposing it went to court and the judge found there was no substance in the claim and ruled in the hotel’s favour, then she could be liable for defendant’s costs, the court fees, the expert witness medical consultants’ fees, and her own lawyer’s time. It may be that the hotel made an undisclosed settlement or that her lawyer, upon seeing an expert witness report that wasn’t in her favour, advised against proceeding further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Having listened to that RTÉ Drivetime piece on the way home, with her SOR interview this morning played, she's well and truly down now. At the very, very best it's a series of bad judgements, including going on SOR today.

    AH response: Time to kick her even harder!

    By not answering key questions on SOR you have to assume the worst, which is that she sued a business, not because of their negligence but because she was in a position of such fantastic power (political family, money and influence all behind her, on the up as an elected councilor and friends in extremely high places in the legal and political professions) that she knew she could get away with it. “I felt mortified” listen to the inflection she uses on that word, she says it twice and it’s key, so somebody must pay both in terms of face and in terms of money. It’s an astounding abuse of power


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Anyone who thinks that swing is a good idea in a pub would want to have their head examined .

    She would have won her case for sure.

    Are you basing that on your own legal expertise, or her star performance as a witness earlier? Yeah, would have won for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,711 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    smurgen wrote: »
    "I'm not much into the social side of public life, I'd much rather be on the couch in pj's"

    " I'm not a hermit, i like to go out an socialise"

    Before the incident at the hotel she acted as if she needed to be dragged there by friends. Then she changes her tune completely when talking about being at the festival.the manner in which she lies is fascinatingly easy to her.

    Not only that she said that she went to Longitude after the accident and that she sat down on the grass, listened to one band and then went home. Sounds like even more bullsh1t to me, as another poster said she seems to be a pathological liar, it just comes so easy to her.

    Id say Joespha Madigan is furious with her for this getting out and the car crash of this mornings radio interview. All of Dun Laoighire/Blackrock/Mount Merrion will be chin wagging about Madigans legal firm suing the Dean Hotel over Bailey falling off a swing, this will not bode well for future business in those areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭thebourke


    its proves one thing ..........women are just as corrupt as men!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Took my 18 month old niece to the playground! Even she knew to hold onto the swing!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    It's almost impressive how she manages to apportion blame to practically everyone else involved in this situation apart from the person who is actually responsible, herself.

    It takes a massive sense of entitlement along with a neck like a jockey's bollocks to pull that off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Anyone who thinks that swing is a good idea in a pub would want to have their head examined .

    She would have won her case for sure.


    It's always the 0.00001% that ruins it for the rest of the World


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭thebourke


    just heard the interview!!!
    disastrous!!!
    she still thinks she is in the right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,111 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It's always the 0.00001% that ruins it for the rest of the World

    Or group think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Anyone who thinks that swing is a good idea in a pub would want to have their head examined .
    She would have won her case for sure.

    I'm not sure if she would have won her case given some of her contradictory statements, but I saw a clip of the swings on VM news and it's a crazy place to put them. Plus, even if it is a crazy place to put them, you shouldn't be falling off one.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It's her brother. Someone here decided it has to be the husband because of the surname. I think both Josepha and her brother worked in family firm that is now run by her brother. They are representing Maria Bailey. Her husband works in advertising

    I smell a rat tbh.
    Ms Madigan declined to clarify if she "did or didn't" advise her Fine Gael colleague on the case, which Ms Madigan's family law firm lodged on their client's behalf in 2015 - two years before Ms Madigan left the firm.

    Josepha is inextricably involved now either way, it is inconceivable that she wasn't fully aware of this case.

    Bailey has said she was informed by Madigans that the case was open and shut.

    Granted, she (Bailey) could be lying about her legal advise, or equally plausible is that Madigans informed her that it was an open and cut cafe on the back of lies being told to them, but either way, Josepha and her family's law firm have become entangled in this chancers web of greed and deceit.

    It will all come out in the end though, that's for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    The mysterious items in her hands turned out to be bottles of wine


  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭seasidedub


    The SO'R interview was dire. I was laughing hysterically it was so awful. She just kept on digging...

    "I was hurt"..... yes, but why is that someone's fault (the Dean in this case)???? Her interview said everything about the compo culture.

    If I walk down the street on the path as I should, there is a reasonable expectation that it is safe and maintained by the country council etc. If I fall into a huge pothole and injure myself, then I've a case. If I just fall because I just did (it happens) then why is anyone to blame?

    She wanted to make a few bob- let's get real. Shame on her. Oh, sorry, I'm a keyboard warrior now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭thebourke


    vincent browne......@answer the bloody question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 934 ✭✭✭angel eyes 2012


    Took my 18 month old niece to the playground! Even she knew to hold onto the swing!!

    Ha I did the same, brought my 18 month old niece to the playground and she used the swing without any issue too!! Take note Maria!

    I had listened to the Sean O'Rourke interview prior to leaving and was thinking it would be a travesty if public playgrounds are ever closed due to excessive insurance costs as a result of questionable personal injury actions.

    I don't think Deputy Bailey will walk without a fight, what are Leo's options here or will the negative attention from swing-gate die down and be merely "smoke and daggers" as Bertie would say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Having listened to that RTDrivetime piece on the way home, with her SOR interview this morning played, she's well and truly down now. At the very, very best it's a series of bad judgements, including going on SOR today.

    AH response: Time to kick her even harder!
    if she had put the hands up and said, yeah look i made a mistake, she'd still get slagged but it would have taken the wind out of the story. but she didnt. she doubled down and made a holy show of herself leaving the other people who followed her on the show, including a party colleague, utterly gobsmacked. i dont like to see anyone kicked while theyre down but she has no one to blame but herself here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I smell a rat tbh.



    Josepha is inextricably involved now either way, it is inconceivable that she wasn't fully aware of this case.

    Bailey has said she was informed by Madigans that the case was open and shut.

    Granted, she (Bailey) could be lying about her legal advise, or equally plausible is that Madigans informed her that it was an open and cut cafe on the back of lies being told to them, but either way, Josepha and her family's law firm have become entangled in this chancers web of greed and deceit.

    It will all come out in the end though, that's for sure.


    Bailey is throwing Madigan under the bus. More or less she would never have brought the court case only legal advice told her to go ahead with it


    If I was Madigan I would get in front of this or they will be nailed to the wall on this....


    They are all a shower of corrupt f**kers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,899 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I posted the below a few pages back, but I'm going to post it again, because the question is an actual gem!

    SOR to MB- "what about people who say you might not be fit to represent FG, as it as party of integrity and doing the right thing"

    :pac::D:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    As Albert Reynolds used to say...

    It's the little swings that trip you up

    Brilliant :D


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