"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 6 "The Iron Throne" - Spoilers post 2 forw

What an embarrassment of a final episode.

• How unlucky were Cersei and Jaime? If they stood 10 feet away they would have lived, judging from a lot of the room being free of rubble.
• Sure were a lot of Dothraki and Unsullied around. They seem to regenerate further before every episode. Again, not really sure where these survivors were during The Long Night battle, considering the dead breached the castle walls and swarmed the remaining few living main characters within. According to Dan Benioff in episode 3 - "What they see is just the end of the Dothraki essentially". I guess the writers kinda forgot the Dothraki died.
• I loved how Arya snuck up on Jon. I especially love how if she had done that to Cersei then there would have been no need for any bloodshed! Maybe if she told everyone at the war council in episode 4 that she intended to kill Cersei, as she confirmed in episode 5 - they could all have waited until she just used her assassin abilities and killed Cersei. Especially considering everyone is now aware of her abilities and she took out 1 target in a sea of more than 100,000 enemies with ease!
• Arya with the hot take - "I know a killer when I see one". Wow Arya, what tipped you off, was it the biggest genocide in Westerosi history that everyone witnessed an hour or two before? Jon living up to his new found status as the biggest idiot on the show by repeating a variation on his only line - "She's everyones queen".
• "I can't justify what happened, I won't try, but the war is over now" - Yet another character assassination by D&D. Jon Snow not overly bothered about genocide of innocents now, I guess. For him not to immediately see what she has become is utterly bizarre. "She's not her father" - no shes f*cking 500,000 times worse, give or take a few hundred thousand. "Cersei left her no choice"?!? What is this idiot talking about. Jon's whole defense of her in that scene is an absolute embarrassment. The fact that he actually has to be talked around into realising the truth is hilariously bad.
• Not given any real reason why Dany burned the innocents except she's cRaZy and omg how couldn't you see all along. Yeah unfortunately still finding it hard to justify how she sacrificed everything for humanity in episode 3, and in episode 4 is straight up deranged. She saw the Red Keep so she burned 500,000 innocents. bUt sHeS ThE mAd QuEeN. :rolleyes:
• Why are Tyrion and Jon still alive? Why wouldn't Greyworm have killed them immediately as he did the other prisoners? Why didn't the dothraki start killing everyone and everything immediately when Dany died. Why would they literally sit around and wait for months until everyone else arrived?
• "Say another word about killing my brother and I'll cut your throat" - Already forgotten about the Hound peptalk last episode because Arya is back to being a badass. Threatening to murder the ruler of one of the 7 kingdoms is tight!
• Davos telling the unsullied to start their own house. Might be the shortest lived house in the history of time seeing as they have no c*cks? Utterly hilarious that he would even suggest this.
• Gendry should be King right? The now legitimate air of the last reasonable king?
• The council scene is so tonally wrong considering what we saw just 5 minutes previously. "I'll ask my horse as well" - 5 minutes after the death of the main female character. Time for some LOLs after genocide, slitting the throats of surrendered soldiers, the Nuremburg Rally and some stabbing of our female heroine up until 2 episodes ago.
• Bran Stark - "I'll never be a lord". "I'm not Bran, not really". Ok. Let's ignore those two quotes because the writers clearly ignore everything that they wrote before. This one is a complete disaster. So Tyrion seems pleased that Bran won't have an air - isn't that just asking for trouble at the next kingsmoot? Like how hard would it be for somebody tyrannical to take power - fairly f*cking easy. Then Bran says, "Why do you think I came all this way" - Implying he knew he would be king. So did he know about the genocide too? This should actually be the most horrifying revelation in the whole series. What a great king, just let 500,000 people die so he could gain power!
• Why are all the lords of Westeros happy to vote Bran in based on a 1 minute monologue by Tyrion? This is a guy a lot of them either never met or never spoke to. They don't know about his powers or his past.
• Why do Davos or Brienne even get a vote?
• Sansa declares that the North will be independent. Lets back up there for one second. So because the North was independent for thousands of years they should be again.
• HEY DORNISH PRINCE, are you awake over there?! Hey Prince NoName of Dorne, did you forget that Dorne was independent for far longer than the North? Seeing as people are just claiming independence you might want to speak up buddy! You have a far stronger claim to it than Sansa over there!
• Hey Yara! Did you hear that, Sansa just declared the North independent. Remember when you were promised that by Dany? Remember how other promises that Dany made are being honored such as Gendry being a Lord now? Why aren't you declaring yourself independent? You only agreed to stop raping and pillaging if you got independence - so I presume you are just going to go back to that? Seeing as results from Aegon's conquest are being reversed, why not claim the Riverlands too!
• Hey Robyn! Your cousin just declared herself independent, wouldn't you like that too?
• Will this peace last even a week after Sansa's hilarious manoeuvre?
• What about when the next king decides that they shouldn't have one random independent kingdom with no justification?
• So Jon must take the Black, I guess you will just wait for Grey Worm to leave and then not do that? Especially considering they are going to Naath of all places.
• Bronn as master of coin and ruler of anything is utterly preposterous.
• Tyrion not being mentioned in the book is even more preposterous. The hand of 2 Kings and 1 Queen, one of whom he was found guilty of murdering, one of whom committed the worst atrocity in Westerosi history.
• Why is Brienne on Bran's council? Wasn't she sworn to Sansa? Won't Sansa need a Queensguard as part of an independent kingdom? Seemed like a good job for a skilled knight who pledged themselves to you!
• Grand Maester Sam? D&D do realise that it's the other Maesters and not the King who decides on the Grand Maester? Who in the conclave would have voted him in? All he did when he was at the citadel was clean ****. What utter nonsense.
• Arya leaves to go exploring. The lone wolf dies but the pack survives. Wait, maybe that should be the other way around now.
• Why do the Wildlings want to go back beyond the wall? It's a barren wasteland that they were trying to escape for centuries.

Can't wait for their take on Star Wars!

Now that i think of it, why did the Wildlings wait for Jon Snow to arrive at Castle Black before they decided to go home?


They had no way of knowing he survived, no way of knowing that he was exiled to The Wall and most importantly, no reason to wait for him to show up.

Effects wrote: »

Is he not just escorting them North as work is quiet enough at Castle Black at the moment? Just passing the time until the next batch of scumbags arrive to rebuild the wall. They don't really need to train fighters anymore.

There's literally no men of the Night's Watch left and there never will be a new Watch as there is no danger of the NK returning. Bran knew what he was doing. He couldn't let Jon go, or the Unsullied and Dothraki would start a war. He couldn't kill Jon or the North would start a war. He sent Jon North because he knew he would feel at home there. Like most things this season, it was badly done because for a start, there is no way Grey Worm would've let Jon and Tyrion live after Jon killed Dany but if I put aside the shoddy storytelling, Jon ended up where he should be. He's with the Wildlings who respect him and couldn't give a toss that he was a bastard or the rightful heir to a throne and they will never expect him to play the Game of Thrones.

Effects wrote: »

Yara has nothing to bargain with.

That's a good point...... for now. Balon Greyjoy never had a powerful house but he still rebelled when he thought he had a chance. Yara could reach out to Dorne and try to start a rebellion against the Broken King. The history of Westeros has thought us that just because this is the end of this story, it's not the end of people plotting and planning against each other in the pursuit of power. The game never ends.