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Honestly, what do you think about Season 8? Mod warning post #1/#410

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  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    It's a rather hollow experience so far.

    Marvel's Game of Thrones.

    Marvel tend to stick to their characters' defined traits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Benioff & Weiss had the Star Wars trilogy dangled in front of them and abandoned the show that should have been their masterpiece.

    Is that why it was such a rushed season? I wondered why, when the show is so popular, they would want to make fewer episodes for the last season. Even season 7 had some pretty shoddy pacing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    kowloon wrote: »
    Is that why it was such a rushed season? I wondered why, when the show is so popular, they would want to make fewer episodes for the last season. Even season 7 had some pretty shoddy pacing.

    HBO were more than happy to have more episodes and more series. D&D wanted to wrap things up though. Probably a combination of being tired of the project, not knowing what to do to finish it up, and also having a brand new contract with Disney being offered to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    the petition to redo s8 has hit over 1 million signatures https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers?use_react=false
    that was fast..


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    the petition to redo s8 has hit over 1 million signatures https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers?use_react=false
    that was fast..
    I went to sign it on behalf of the Night King but I was told that night.king@gmail.com had already been used to sign the petition :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Nody wrote: »
    I went to sign it on behalf of the Night King but I was told that night.king@gmail.com had already been used to sign the petition :P

    Love it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    the petition to redo s8 has hit over 1 million signatures https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers?use_react=false
    that was fast..

    Too bad these things never work. Surely people realistically don't think that it will? I've accepted the show isn't ending the way I envisaged at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,873 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Too bad these things never work. Surely people realistically don't think that it will? I've accepted the show isn't ending the way I envisaged at this stage.

    Most people will be smart enough to know it wont do anything, i hope

    Still it's a bit of a middle finger to HBO and the Davids, if it achieves nothing else it's another way to let them know how pissed people are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Yea I doubt it would, it's more of a **** you to DnD for the **** writing, gone up over 50k since yesterday wonder how many will sign after the final episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    Yea I doubt it would, it's more of a **** you to DnD for the **** writing, gone up over 50k since yesterday wonder how many will sign after the final episode.

    Hopefully the anger is enough to derail their future projects that's the only thing that would give me satisfaction. Read something about them having a clause in their contract saying they couldn't be removed as showrunners. Surely that can't be right because this show is ending possibly two seasons early because the hatchet job they've done in the last 2 years just to finish their obligation.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Wow.

    Just wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭Beric Dondarrion


    Season 8 (and season 7) were always going to be in trouble with fans due to their shortened episode numbers. Season 7 painted itself in to a serious corner with the "teleportation" issues raised by characters appearing one place and then another in seemingly no time at all. This followed through right in to season 8 too.....this was just one example of many of the rushed nature of the final two seasons.

    Character's story-lines/arcs being finished off in non typical fashion was another (Jamie, Varys, Dany, Jon and the Night King all fell foul of this). Again I think mainly down to the rushed timelines for the final seasons.

    Having no direct source material to work with is another major issue. Once the book material was used up the show seemed to struggled. Every major story-line suffered somewhat from this too. In fairness though, the "Battle of the Bastards" episode is one of my favorite episodes and that was all down to the current show runners with some input from GRRM so credit where credit is due.

    The writers wanting to move on to other projects is understandable too but damn their pride, they should have handed the reins over to someone else to give it the finish it deserved. I'm sure HBO would have been more than willing to keep the show on the road for another 2 or 3 full seasons. At least then Game of Thrones would have joined the ranks of their other shows that were closed out in a satisfactory way (The Wire, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under) and other networks' shows (Breaking Bad).

    Instead it's all going to end on a very lukewarm (if they're lucky) note, I'll still watch the finale and I have enjoyed the show up to now but there will always be that lingering feeling of what might have been at the back of my mind.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    I don't get why David Benioff and D.B. Weiss couldn't have stepped back and HBO replace them? This series deserved more. The fans deserved more. I think they failed themselves more than us and the show.

    But this shambles should not rest of just those two. I'm sure when they signed up to this, they were under the impression that GRRM would have completed the source material but he didn't. He also deserves some credit for these last 2 seasons.

    HBO, when the two announced it was going to end, shouldn't have sat back and allowed it. GoT is huge, fans would have been happy to see it go on for a while longer and stick to the shows true core. But basically those two are bigger than the show, apparently.

    Either way, it's a unfortunate end to what has been a great TV show. They will regret it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭bur


    Enjoying it more than 5 and 7. As a book reader the show has been disappointing me for years to varying degrees so expectations have been kept in check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    D&D completely shat the bed for Season 7 + 8. This is going down as the biggest mistake in tv history for me. Everything that made the show great has been scrubbed by them. They had the cast, they had the story, they had the fans, they had the budget, they had the time, they had all the help, they had the best special effects/music/stunt performers in the business etcetera. And yet they managed to **** up the show. :mad:

    Dany becoming worse than Hitler in the space of an episode and a half is so stupid. I would have been happy to see her descend deeper and deeper into madness for a few seasons in a proper way.
    With Vary's treason on Dany taking all of 2 episodes.
    Tyrion becoming a complete dumb dumb.
    LittleFinger hanging around Winterfell when he is the acting commander of the Knights of the Vale was so stupid. I mean, his plan was to get a sister to murder another sister, it doesn't make sense for him to be there doing that.
    What was the point of the Faceless Men if they are not being used in some way afterwards.
    Jon becoming a side character and not really talking.
    Jamie sleeping with Brienne doesn't make sense if he still wanted Cersie.
    What about the cities that Dany freed from slavery.
    Why isn't Hot Pie in every episode. The secret is to brown the butter first.
    Why did Theon have archers. Why were the big catapults not behind the wall.
    I want to know about Howland Reed.
    I wanted the giant wolf pack to do some crazy attack at some stage.
    Are the Children of the Forest all dead.
    On and on and on with the crap they have done to the end of this show.

    There's so much to the story being left out because D&D want to move onto Star Wars. Remember Kit Harrington saying how the Winterfell battle took 61 cold nights of filming, and D&D would show up once a week and give some notes. They phoned in their jobs as writers and show runners.

    This show needed 10 seasons to do the show justice. There are SO many story lines that were carefully interwoven for the first 6 seasons. And that has been abandoned.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Just watched the last one. Against my better judgement. What a load of balls.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Crap season. Finale wasn't as terrible as I expected. In isolation, it was even OK.

    I've made my peace with it. Honestly considering what came before, it could've been worse.

    They didn't **** the bed at Dexter levels, but they really did GOT a poor service in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭liam7831


    I really enjoyed the series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Finale satisfied my expectations as I didn't have any and I just rolled with what they did. Season overall was rushed, messy and full of convenient plot twist to get to an end. Not all bad though - Episodes 1&2 were good for me, 3 was spectacular and mostly worked well, darkness aside, but downhill from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    liam7831 wrote: »
    I really enjoyed the series

    Me too. I just enjoyed the first 7 seasons way more than the last one. Some people are taking themselves way too seriously


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    No matter what/how the wrapped things up there'd be disquiet.
    A few tweaks in some charachters aside, it ticked most boxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭cd07


    Really disappointed with the finale. After 8years of pure brilliance it was such a let down.


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I could write lots about it but I'll just say that season 8 was sh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    For 2 weeks to pass during an ad break is a little bit of what ruined episode 6 for me, was kind of surreal watching it unfold. There was 2 really great episodes in 8 the rest were not the best or as great as they should/could have been. It is what it is though.

    Would have loved for bran to say
    "You like stories, Iv'e got a story....."
    fairly disappointed at how the last episode went.

    Expectation probably got the better of a few people including myself. Overall season 8 was alright (just). Have not read the books but felt as though there was a lot cut out of season 8 that probably should have been in it!


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Now that it's done and dusted, it can do down as a final season that is objectively crap.

    I watched all of Dexter and while it was a load of **** at the end, that descent had been on the cards for ages. Same in GoT, but I guess the hype made many believe that something good was just around the corner. It wasn't.


    After episode 2, I said four more episodes was too many and I'd rather even fewer. I was right. It just meant more time to consistently disappoint. Thank God it's over. Never thought I'd say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭no.8


    I, like many thought ep 2 to be enlightening. Ah well, that's a shame for you to hope that. Wouldn't agree but sure each to their own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,150 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Yakult wrote: »
    I don't get why David Benioff and D.B. Weiss couldn't have stepped back and HBO replace them?

    From any of the interviews I've seen them in they seem like two extremely arrogant people .

    I feared the worst when they were touting Confederacy as their next project and announced that Seasons 7 and 8 would be a total of 13 episodes.

    Why did they feel the need to announce their next project when Game of Thrones was the most high profile tv series in the world.

    Maybe the cast wouldn't commit to more than 8 seasons but surely they could have had two series of 10 episodes for the final two seasons using two different crews.

    HBO probably thought the two boys could bring home the bacon in 13 episodes but their faith was terribly misplaced.
    Martin cant even finish the 6th book after 8 years work but the two boys thought they could do it in 13 episodes .:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    I gave them a reprieve, even defended them for the first 5 episodes, but I think S8E6 is as a finale one of the biggest disappointments in TV history, and thats not an exxageration.

    R+L=J, fans have been drooling over this since Book 1, when the TV show was barely a twinkle in D&D's eyes. It came to nothing, an acknowledgement, and ASOIAF's biggest hero pettered out with barely a whimper, his fate not his own choosing.

    Varys, his development allowed to fester in S7 and then wiped out within the opening credits of S8E5.

    Tyrion, arguably our favorite character due to his wit, his background and his adventure. He became a moron who betrayed his friends and couldnt negotiate his way out of a paper bag.

    They pandered. They checked what the top scoring posts on reddit were for the past 8 years and delivered Cleganebowl, Ghost, tons of unnecessary character link ups or reunions. Happy endings for nearly everyone. The Starks nice and happy. It cheapened everything.

    Useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    They didn't **** the bed at Dexter levels, but they really did GOT a poor service in the end.



    When this is considered a positive you know you have problems


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,645 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I didn't really have an issue with where the characters ended up and what happened but everything was just so rushed it made all the big moments feel extremely hollow and a bit flat.


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