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"Book readers" - Season 8 Episode 2 "A Knight of the 7 Kin" - Spoilers post 2 fo

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  • #62
    Loafing Oaf
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    bnt wrote: »
    Maisie gave an interview to EW about the scene. On the one hand, there was no body double, but on the other hand she was in control of what was shown in the end after CGI.

    Does she explicitly say 'no body double' though? Maisie went on chat shows and swore blind Jon Snow was really dead after season 5, so she's not above being a bit economical with the truth when promoting the show...


  • #63
    RobbingBandit
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    Night King Seto Kaiba Vs Jon Snow(tbc) Joey Wheeler
    Blue Eyes White Dragon Vs Red Eyes Black Dragon

    Konami wants their cut HBO and George


  • #64
    Baggly
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    Loafing Oaf wrote:
    Does she explicitly say 'no body double' though? Maisie went on chat shows and swore blind Jon Snow was really dead after season 5, so she's not above being a bit economical with the truth when promoting the show...

    He was dead.


  • #65
    bnt
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Does she explicitly say 'no body double' though? Maisie went on chat shows and swore blind Jon Snow was really dead after season 5, so she's not above being a bit economical with the truth when promoting the show...
    Does it even matter, given how airbrushed the scene was? All we have is what Maisie says in the interview, which I assume you have read.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #66
    VayNiice
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    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    Was another slow burner but to be expected really - they have to build for the next few episodes as there is gonna be a lot of characters killed off and of course a few twists and betrayals a long the way. As someone who served in the FCA I can appreciate that calm / eerie feeling before battle when you question the ridiculousness of life.


    Thanks for that, gave me a good laugh!


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  • #67
    .......
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    I'm glad Arya got the ride. Considering how independent she is, fully in control of her own destiny.

    Most women in it didnt get to choose how or who they lose their virginity to. So it's fitting for Arya to choose her own way.

    Personally I think it's quite funny how many comments online are people a bit upset about it.

    She's a woman. A very petite and young looking woman, but still a woman. Pity she didn't have a go on Podricks magic cock but he was too busy singing ballads.


  • #68
    .......
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    Where's Robin Arryn?


  • #69
    bnt
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    I see that in addition to the romantic angle, Jenny of Oldstones is relevant to the plot for a second reason: she created the prophecy of The Prince That Was Promised, the reincarnation of Azor Ahai. There are theories about who that might be, and they are not limited to members of House Targaryen.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #70
    rawn
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    letowski wrote: »
    I liked the episode, I thought it built things up nicely.

    Just one thing, I didn't think dialogue during the drinking scene in front of the fire was good. Yes Tormund is funny, and Brienne becoming a knight was cool, but the dialogue was too brash, with forced humor. I didn't capture the nervousness, sombre and apprehension before a bloody war which they are all likely going to die in. I would have liked if someone would have told a poignant story on the eve of battle.

    I guess Robert's wish in Season 1, for his son and Ned's daughter to get together finally came true lol

    I thought the forced humor was exactly what one would expect before a battle against overwhelming odds. They don't want to sit around and discuss death, they are trying to laugh in the face of impending doom, but failing somewhat.


  • #71
    rawn
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    ....... wrote: »
    Where's Robin Arryn?

    Chilling with the Dornish army


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  • #72
    RobbingBandit
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    He'll turn up soon just like ghost, Gilly and all the other write ins betting we even get to see that beetle smashing lannister cousin. Smash the beetles. Smash em.


  • #73
    PhuckHugh
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    Phileas Frog wrote: »
    Phuck me, I've heard it all now... How many battles did you fight in in the FCA?? Being dug in on cemetery hill doesn't count.

    More than I care to remember .... the bonds that are forged in battle are never broken. I saw those scenes re-created on screen last night and I'm not ashamed to say i wept in memory of my fallen brothers.


  • #74
    leggo
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    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    More than I care to remember .... the bonds that are forged in battle are never broken. I saw those scenes re-created on screen last night and I'm not ashamed to say i wept in memory of my fallen brothers.

    Who can ever forget the time that the Reserves fought zombies on O'Connell Bridge?? The Reeling in the Years is going to be epic.


  • #75
    PhuckHugh
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    leggo wrote: »
    Who can ever forget the time that the Reserves fought zombies on O'Connell Bridge?? The Reeling in the Years is going to be epic.

    Lest we forget.


  • #76
    EagererBeaver
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    People talking about "Sophie" and "Maisie" as if they're their mates. Lol.


  • #77
    Drumpot
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    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    I thought it was a beautiful episode.

    That and the previous episode will age much better by the end of the series when almost everyone is dead.

    People are inpatient for carnage and instead should be appreciating saying goodbye to these characters.

    This, I loved that episode.

    To see the characters reunited and just thinking of their characters development. Cersies is the only character that’s really in the exact same spot physically and emotionally she was in when it started. Her character hasn’t changed one bit.

    Everybody else has faught, moved on and are ready to die for each other. There really wasn’t anything I didn’t like about this episode. It’s the big breath before the plunge and I love it. 8 years building up to this, I’m delighted they aren’t rushing it and we get some time with our remaining heroes before the carnage.


  • #78
    RobbingBandit
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    Awful thought Winterfell is a red herring Night King is already in the skies over Kings Landing that's why we didn't see the south in this episode.


  • #79
    Drumpot
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    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    Awful thought Winterfell is a red herring Night King is already in the skies over Kings Landing that's why we didn't see the south in this episode.

    Is that not a good thought?

    He could destroy the citadel and history of men so it might be possible.


  • #80
    Kunkka
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    I have a feeling Nymeria will return with a huge pack of wolves.


  • #81
    J. Marston
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    Lyanna Mormont riding a bear into battle with dragon glass fastened to its claws. Is it so much to ask?


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  • #82
    Dave_The_Sheep
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    J. Marston wrote: »
    Lyanna Mormont riding a bear into battle with dragon glass fastened to its claws. Is it so much to ask?

    I now have this odd image of her going into battle on Jorah's shoulders.


  • #83
    .......
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    J. Marston wrote: »
    Lyanna Mormont riding a bear into battle with dragon glass fastened to its claws. Is it so much to ask?

    Not too much at all.

    But if we get that I want Jaime's golden hand studded with dragon glass spikes so he can slap his way through the dead.


  • #84
    razorblunt
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    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    More than I care to remember .... the bonds that are forged in battle are never broken. I saw those scenes re-created on screen last night and I'm not ashamed to say i wept in memory of my fallen brothers.

    After a long and distinguished career in the FCA, my grandson asked if I was a hero.

    “No’ I said, choking back tears ... ‘but I had some heroic weekend sessions with the boys”


  • #85
    duploelabs
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    Melisandre said that she, and Varys, would die on Westeros yet we're still to see her


  • #86
    Tazzimus
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    ....... wrote: »
    Not too much at all.

    But if we get that I want Jaime's golden hand studded with dragon glass spikes so he can slap his way through the dead.

    Jaime: "Make me a hand blade of obsidian"
    Gendry: "What?"
    Jaime: "T-1000 bitch"


  • #87
    RobbingBandit
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    J. Marston wrote: »
    Lyanna Mormont riding a bear into battle with dragon glass fastened to its claws. Is it so much to ask?

    Golden Compass says no.


  • #88
    Riddle101
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    ceegee wrote: »
    Find it a bit funny the amount of comments online about Arya's sex scene.
    Somehow her becoming a mass murderer, who cuts off her victims faces to wear, didn't weird people out but showing some arse and sideboob freaks them out

    I found the comments strange too. She's a grown woman now and naturally she's going to be sexually active as all the characters of the show are. No better way to prepare for a battle I say.
    ....... wrote: »
    Where's Robin Arryn?

    I reckon he's back at the the Vale of Arryn. Jon and Dany will probably have to retreat to the Vale if Winterfell is lost next week.

    On a different note. I hoping to see some proper interaction between Jon Snow and Jaime at some point. Remember in Season 1 when Jaime briefly spoke with Jon Snow about joining the Night's Watch. It would be a nice callback to that scene.


  • #89
    OneOfThem Stumbled
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    I'm guessing that the show isn't gong to ever comment on it , but I wonder whether the Dreadfort is manned. It, like Winterfell, is slap bang in the path from Last Hearth. The Night King could presumably afford to have some forces attack it at the same time.

    That's one way in which Lord of the Rings had a better grounding for its sieges, as the characters talked about the plans of the enemy. Even when the enemy didn't have much of a speaking role (like Sauron) the heroes talked about their antagonists game plan, his motives, his resources, and his likelihood of victory.

    The fact that the characters in GOT don't do this, and merely talk about how they are all about to die, makes it look as if they're resigned to defeat (though I don't think that's meant to be the take-home message).

    In keeping with this desperate tone, Arya getting it off with Gendry actually fits. There's plenty of cases in history (for instance the pretty recent Battle of Berlin) where the atmosphere of impending doom made people pretty... promiscuous. When you think you're about to die, why not?

    Which finally brings me to one last thing.

    Arya is an assassin. She is essentially a faceless person. Despite the fact that the show has established that their enemy has the same weakness as the droids in the Phantom Menace, Arya's capacity in this regard hasn't been mentioned.

    Arya could perhaps pretend to be Bran. Would that not work because of the Night King's mark? Maybe, maybe not. Could Arya pretend to be a wight, or even a white walker? Again, these are questions the characters should be asking. I'm all for an episode that is there to establish build-up, but this wasn't doing that - it was establishing emotional investment. While that's great, I think they could have done some of the other as well.


  • #90
    golfball37
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    She can only take the face of a dead person afaik


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  • #91
    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
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    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    More than I care to remember .... the bonds that are forged in battle are never broken. I saw those scenes re-created on screen last night and I'm not ashamed to say i wept in memory of my fallen brothers.

    Thank you Sir, for your service to Eire. :D


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