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"Book readers" - Season 8 Episode 2 "A Knight of the 7 Kin" - Spoilers post 2 fo

  • 21-04-2019 6:43pm
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    The first 10 mins of the episode was prob the best part, The episode is mainly a buildup to this battle with some interesting developments in the characters (especially Daenery’s reaction about Jon’s secret doesn’t bode well for the later episodes). Felt a bit let down to be honest....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭duffman13


    I really enjoyed it however with the Caveat of knowing it's only 6 episodes long there was a lot more catching up down but that all has to be now by the looks of it.

    Danys reaction was a bit of a surprise, half expected Jon just to say he doesn't want the thrown particularly because he seems to never want any of the positions he's given :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Enjoyed it but nothing happened! Tormund is a legend btw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    I loved it.

    Loved the nod to Dunk and Egg. Although I fear we are losing a lot of that particular cast of characters during the next episode.

    Jon's reveal was excellent. I was half expecting him to say that his claim wouldn't matter if they married anyway.

    Still processing it all but Brienne/Jaime, Arya/Gendry and Jon/Dani were highlights for me. Also Theon/Sansa.

    Interesting how alone Dani seems. Whereas the King Killer (sic :)) just slotted right in like he was meant to be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,282 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I did think Dany would see Jon as a threat to her, wasn't really surprised by her reaction. As for Tormund, the man is a legend! Looks like we are in for an epic battle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭golfball37


    What did ser jorah advise Dani to do I wonder? Right after he told her to keep Tyrion he said someone else and then it cut to her and Sansa


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    Has it been aired yet? I got the impression it wasn’t in until tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    barrier86 wrote: »
    Has it been aired yet? I got the impression it wasn’t in until tomorrow?

    Amazon Germany accidentally put it up earlier and it was up long enough for people to screen-record it.

    Second week in a row an episode has been put up early, I bet HBO are raging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Thought it was very enjoyable. I can criticise it as kinda another reunion episode, but it was much more than that. Every main character that is still alive was there (except Cersie and Bronn). Brienne getting made a Knight, Arya getting it on with Gendry lol, Jamie and Theon prepared to sacrifice themselves to save others, Dany finding out about Jon's lineage, even Jorah meeting the little lady leader of his house, all wrapped up in a poignant and nice way. All of their story 'arcs' have lead up to this point. Feel I am spoiled by usually binge watching shows so think these episodes will play even better when watched back to back to back.

    They will start falling like flies from here on out. If Cersie is the only one left standing with Euron at the end I'll be annoyed, other than that I'll be happy.

    Tormund sucking on the breast of a lactating giant for 3 months is the only spin off series that this show will ever need. :D


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    Jijsaw wrote: »
    Amazon Germany accidentally put it up earlier and it was up long enough for people to screen-record it.

    Second week in a row an episode has been put up early, I bet HBO are raging.

    Thanks for that. Crazy to think this happened. I seemed to remember this happening last season too. Might have been hbo in Spain releasing it early


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    golfball37 wrote: »
    What did ser jorah advise Dani to do I wonder? Right after he told her to keep Tyrion he said someone else and then it cut to her and Sansa

    Probably exactly that - to try and build a relationship with Sansa. Sophie was great in this episode, I mean everyone brought their A game in a character driven episode but Sophie really was wonderful.

    I can forgive Dany's reaction to Jon anyway - it was basically her turn this week to see her world come crashing down just like it was for Jon last week.

    Excellent episode laying the ground for the madness to come next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,563 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    *Windows notification noise*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭d22ontour


    Nice to see Ghost even if it was a just a cameo, hopefully we get to see him fighting in the next episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭ASOT


    I really enjoyed that episode, I hope the rest of it leaks I can't wait :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    *Windows notification noise*

    GOOSE VPN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭5star02707


    Love Tormund's sense of humor. Cracks me up even! But but so many innocence lost in this episode 👀


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    I think a lot of the dialogue is truly awful now, and the Arya scene was genuinely uncomfortable to watch.

    Some good moments for sure, but don't feel as strongly as most on here about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭carq


    The whole ‘women can fight too’ propoganda is getting tiresome at this point. I think i counted 4 scenes where this was pushed ham fistedly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Still trying to process the episode. It had some interesting moments but felt like episode 1. Just kind've a slow build to the next episode where things should get a lot more exciting.

    I wonder if Bran's belief that the Night's King is after him is actually wrong, and in fact the Night's King is actually after Jon Snow. Ever since Hardhome, the Night's King seems very aware of Jon Snow now. So it wouldn't be a surprise to me to discover that the Night King is actually targeting Jon Snow and targets Jon during the Battle of Winterfell instead of Bran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    carq wrote: »
    The whole ‘women can fight too’ propoganda is getting tiresome at this point. I think i counted 4 scenes where this was pushed ham fistedly.

    I think the point is they have to due to a shortage of numbers.

    Multiple references to women and children going into the crypts as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    Pter wrote: »
    I think the point is they have to due to a shortage of numbers.

    Multiple references to women and children going into the crypts as well.

    Dead bodies are in crypts by their very nature... Are they the best place to be??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Dead bodies are in crypts by their very nature... Are they the best place to be??


    Well I think they are wrong and no, the crypts aren't safe , but whomever is in charge thinks its the safest place, hence the women and children go there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    GHOOOOOOSSSSTTTT IS BACK BABY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 TheKitchenSink


    Pod singing reminded me a lot of pippen singing before the battle of minas tirith in lotr.
    Was also hoping brienne would knight Pod after she had been knighted, he seems to be a squire forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    First two episodes have been disappointing imho. I have waited 8 years to see what it's all about and some kind of ending. People are on about character development etc, etc but we have had 8 years for that and I think it's time for answers and action. I know we are going to see that now in the next episode but I think episodes 1 &2 have been a bit boring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭The Hound Gone Wild


    Pod song was Jenny's song!!!

    A song about Duncan Targaryen giving up his claim to the throne to be with Jenny of Oldstone... Ominous.

    One of the best episodes since season 4. Really well written and believable.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,419 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Very good show this week. The Jon / Dany scene was done much better than the Sam / Jon scene last week.

    Some of the character dialog is a bit off these days. Like they try to inject humour just a bit too often or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Anyone else have a weird hankering for some milk halfway through the episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Pter wrote: »
    Anyone else have a weird hankering for some milk halfway through the episode.

    I'll be avoiding it for awhile I'd say.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,419 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Next week I reckon we’re going to see the end of lots of characters, hence the long drawn out fireplace scene this week.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Easily and by a long shot the worst episode of GoT ever.

    Does anyone else remember the tenseness before the Battle of Blackwater Bay? With Cersai ready to kill herself?
    Before the Battle with the dead, we get shltty songs and a meaningless knighthood.


    Where's the battle plans? Why isn't Bran warging to see exactly where they are? There are a million different things. Why are the crypts empty if people were being told to go there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,282 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Don't know what Bran is at at all can't get a ****ing read on him. Dolorous Edd and Sam banter was gold haven't seen drunk Tyrion in ages his lines were witless :(

    Pod is a squire and a bard, Tom O'Sevens sang that song for a dwarf lady the ghost of high heart in a storm of swords, subtle writing as every by hbo Pod sings it on request on the eve of a battle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Given the whole battle for Helms Deep buzz, who can it be who shows up with the dawn?

    My money is on the Return of the King, the one true king, Stannis Baratheon. We didn't see him die, and the last scene he was in was outside Winterfell. My bet is that he holes up in Wintertown til his leg healed (foreshadowed by the Hound looking like a goner but reappearing with his leg healed).

    Towards the end of the battle next week Stannis will come charging toward Winterfell on a white stallion, Melisandre behind him birthing a massive shadow demon with the face of Syrio Forell which will fly into the godswood, attach to the Night Kings face alien facehugger style and obliterate him. The shadow demon will then take human form, break the 4th wall and announce to the audience, Not Today.

    /series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Just take my money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Another filler of an episode for me. Few nice bits here and there but basically a rehash of episode 1. I guess with so many characters the reunions take 2 episodes to cover all of them.
    I may be in the minority here but Arya annoys the hell out of me. Her air of superiority does my head in. They've made her into this zen like over-confident ninja goddess. I haven't liked her character since she left the hound .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh


    Was another slow burner but to be expected really - they have to build for the next few episodes as there is gonna be a lot of characters killed off and of course a few twists and betrayals a long the way. As someone who served in the FCA I can appreciate that calm / eerie feeling before battle when you question the ridiculousness of life.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair enough they could let it build up, but let it build up with Tormund describing exactly what he saw the dragon do at the wall.

    Blows my mind that no one is talking about the possibility of a damn dragon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭mr_cochise


    Does anyone else remember the tenseness before the Battle of Blackwater Bay? With Cersai ready to kill herself? Before the Battle with the dead, we get shltty songs and a meaningless knighthood.

    Easily and by a long shot the worst episode of GoT ever.

    Where's the battle plans? Why isn't Bran warging to see exactly where they are? There are a million different things. Why are the crypts empty if people were being told to go there?


    I sometimes wonder if internet forums had existed when Michelangelo was painting the Sistine chapel how some of the commentary might have went...'ooh no, he used the wrong shade of green there.....his brush strokes aren't the same in that corner as when he first started..his creativity has really gone downhill since the pope went on holidays....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    As someone who served in the FCA I can appreciate that calm / eerie feeling before battle when you question the ridiculousness of life.

    Phuck me, I've heard it all now... How many battles did you fight in in the FCA?? Being dug in on cemetery hill doesn't count.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm genuinely pissed off at the ludicrous decisions being made by the showmakers. This is the first time I've ever ranted about GoT and it's well-deserved for many reasons.

    It's certainly the first time I've finished an episode and considered myself possibly done with the show. I read three and a half of the books, so I'm into the story plenty, and then it's just getting mangled in front of our eyes, and this is the only ending we'll ever get.

    I'm into this universe so I can watch a filler episode trying to really hammer home some heartache next week in a Marvel-style 80-minute blockbuster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Pretty happy with the episode. It's right that the main players have to think about more than just the battle ahead of them, such as Sansa asking "what about the North?" Daenerys could find herself the Queen of Six Kingdoms. I imagine she was already questioning her assumptions about ruling all seven, and now with the revelations about Jon being a relative, it's all up in the air. She could conceivably take her dragons and Unsullied and walk away from Winterfell.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I enjoyed it. Another slow enough episode, but it's built it up nicely for the battle next week. While a lot of it was fluff, it was enjoyable fluff.

    Anyone else feel a bit weird seeing Arya in the nip? :pac:


  • Administrators Posts: 54,419 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Tormund's character is starting to bug me. They've just turned him into the comic effect character. Big, uncouth tough guy who likes the big woman.

    Every time he opens his mouth they try make him say something witty.

    Agree with the poster above who mentioned they should have talked more about what they saw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Kiith wrote: »
    Anyone else feel a bit weird seeing Arya in the nip? :pac:

    If it's any comfort, I highly doubt the 'nip' bits were really Maisie Williams...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Find it a bit funny the amount of comments online about Arya's sex scene.
    Somehow her becoming a mass murderer, who cuts off her victims faces to wear, didn't weird people out but showing some arse and sideboob freaks them out


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I genuinely feel like I could have skipped these two episodes and missed nothing and be like in episode 3:

    "Oh, Jon knows now. Cool."
    "Oh, Jon can ride a dragon. Cool."
    "Oh, Jon told Dany. Cool."


    Quite similar to what I've already been doing having watched the two episodes.

    "Oh, they must have found out about the ice dragon off-screen. Cool."
    "Oh, Tormund describes what he saw off-screen presumably. Cool."
    "Oh, Bran told Tyrion his story off-screen and now Tyrion is saying he thinks they'll survive. Cool."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Not like it hasn't happened before either.....pretty sure the young one in both versions of Shameless ended up doing the same also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Just watching it for the sake of finding out what happens now really, thought it was very boring. Tormund was great as always, and the battle will be epic of course, but the show has definitely lost it's spark for me. Bran and Dany get so much screen time, but no room for the best character left in Cersei? First four seasons compared to the rest is like chalk and cheese, the quality has dropped off a cliff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    If it's any comfort, I highly doubt the 'nip' bits were really Maisie Williams...


    She is 22 you know. Could be like.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,419 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Just watching it for the sake of finding out what happens now really, thought it was very boring. Tormund was great as always, and the battle will be epic of course, but the show has definitely lost it's spark for me. Bran and Dany get so much screen time, but no room for the best character left in Cersei? First four seasons compared to the rest is like chalk and cheese, the quality has dropped off a cliff.

    Cersei will probably dominate the last 3 episodes.


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