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    #2042
    GinAndBitter
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    dougm1970 wrote: »
    out of all the maybe applicable potential opponents...if i was to pick one i think would lose but give aj a good workout, and give us the best fight to watch....i honestly think it would be chisora....he'd lose, but he wouldnt be found wanting..he'd give it his all.

    Del boy deserves the fight. If he slaughters this fella at the weekend he might get it.


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    #2043
    squinn2912
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    Ach boys he’d get emptied. Couldn’t see it lasting 3 rounds


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    #2044
    dougm1970
    Registered Users Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    tell you what, its some state of affairs when the world heavyweight title is up for grabs but finding an opponent thats ranked will be hard..due to.....some saying.... not enough time in 6 weeks to be ready (Adam Kownacki )....a lot of them have failed drugs tests (ortiz, browne, charr, stiverne ,povetkin, whyte)....some of them can't due to their networks and promoters blocking it (seemingly ortiz now).......whyte wants more money than on offer to him......wilder and fury, its become matter of fact that they are not in this conversation....joshuas already defended against parker, povetkin, brazele.

    so. where are we....pulev ? or is he in hot water over kissing that woman on tv ?.......and chisora maybe, if he comes through a tough test saturday.....or maybe a wild card in oscar rivas who i dont hear spoke about much in all this (is whyte looking at him ?)


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    #2045
    normanoffside
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    It's being reported that Miller has now failed a 2nd, separate drug test. This time for HGH.

    He should be thrown out of the sport.


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    #2046
    Littlehorny
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    It's being reported that Miller has now failed a 2nd, separate drug test. This time for HGH.

    He should be thrown out of the sport.

    Agree, drug cheats in any sport are despicable enough but drug cheats in a sport like boxing where the object is to win a fight against your opponent should face criminal charges.


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    #2047
    normanoffside
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    Unbelievably it seems Miller has now failed a 3rd test. This time for EPO


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    #2048
    ASOT
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Unbelievably it seems Miller has now failed a 3rd test. This time for EPO

    Just seen that on Twitter, he failed for epo & edurobol so all in he's failed for 4 difference substances.


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    #2049
    dougm1970
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    ASOT wrote: »
    Just seen that on Twitter, he failed for epo & edurobol so all in he's failed for 4 difference substances.

    hes probably a natural welterweight


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    #2050
    squinn2912
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    dougm1970 wrote: »
    hes probably a natural welterweight

    Scumbag out and out. The big denial the other day too. Now he’s posting videos about how much better a guy he’s gonna be. He’ll get his fat ass handed to him by a journeyman when he’s off the fuel


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    #2051
    Angliru
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    Popping three times for three different things in such quick succession tells me someone has really ****ed up in their programme they gave to Miller. No way should that be happening.

    Funny to see Dillashaw and now Miller popping for EPO in recent times, you can never stray away from a classic.


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    #2052
    Erik Shun
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    Would we think that he hasn't been too stringently tested beforehand...and now he's in for a big fight.... first real tests and he fails everything... can't be a coincidence in my book


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    #2053
    Mike9832
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    Erik Shun wrote: »
    Would we think that he hasn't been too stringently tested beforehand...and now he's in for a big fight.... first real tests and he fails everything... can't be a coincidence in my book

    Been at it for years I would say

    Its a major problem

    Worry now is Joshua won't find someone to step in that can pass Vada testing in 6 weeks

    Didn't even know you could fail hgh test, that's supposed to be out of the body in a day, almost impossible to test for I thought?

    Miller has an addiction problem with them imo, I see it all the time in gym I am in

    If he's been on them for years, his hormones will be all over the place if he came off for Joshua fight, he would be in laughable condition


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    #2054
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    I saw Joe Joyce's manager asking Eddie to ring him on twitter. Is he a possible replacement?


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    #2055
    Morrison J
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    I saw Joe Joyce's manager asking Eddie to ring him on twitter. Is he a possible replacement?

    Can't see it in being a British opponent tbh. Two Brits fighting at 3am British time doesn't make much sense. Joyce an unknown in the States really too.

    I'd be surprised if it's anyone but Hunter personally.


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    #2056
    squinn2912
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    Morrison J wrote: »
    Can't see it in being a British opponent tbh. Two Brits fighting at 3am British time doesn't make much sense. Joyce an unknown in the States really too.

    I'd be surprised if it's anyone but Hunter personally.

    I think you’re right on that. Hunter won’t have anything like the size needed though. Pity I like him


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    #2057
    dougm1970
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    I think you’re right on that. Hunter won’t have anything like the size needed though. Pity I like him

    actually, that shouldn't disqualify him...big disadvantage, but a heavyweight is a heavyweight..and hes a heavyweight now


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    #2058
    normanoffside
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    Morrison J wrote: »
    Can't see it in being a British opponent tbh. Two Brits fighting at 3am British time doesn't make much sense. Joyce an unknown in the States really too.

    I'd be surprised if it's anyone but Hunter personally.

    Yeah, it's not Joyce, looks like Hunter.

    https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1119670315225739264


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    #2059
    squinn2912
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    dougm1970 wrote: »
    actually, that shouldn't disqualify him...big disadvantage, but a heavyweight is a heavyweight..and hes a heavyweight now

    Yea that’s fair enough but only stand out CWs can make an impression on hw. Usyk might, Haye did and clearly Holyfield. Hunter doesn’t belong in company like that. Nice lad and he’s surely talented but I think he was better of staying in CW


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    #2060
    normanoffside
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Yea that’s fair enough but only stand out CWs can make an impression on hw. Usyk might, Haye did and clearly Holyfield. Hunter doesn’t belong in company like that. Nice lad and he’s surely talented but I think he was better of staying in CW

    Yes, even at 210-220lbs he looks a bit flabby, he’s not a big Cruiser.
    He’ll be fast though and should give an indicator as to how Usyk would get on with AJ.


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    #2061
    dougm1970
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Yea that’s fair enough but only stand out CWs can make an impression on hw. Usyk might, Haye did and clearly Holyfield. Hunter doesn’t belong in company like that. Nice lad and he’s surely talented but I think he was better of staying in CW

    yea...thats a fair assessment.


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    #2062
    Morrison J
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    https://twitter.com/Woodsy1069/status/1119689787466813440?s=19


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    #2063
    squinn2912
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Yes, even at 210-220lbs he looks a bit flabby, he’s not a big Cruiser.
    He’ll be fast though and should give an indicator as to how Usyk would get on with AJ.

    Yep that’s true. I don’t think it’s much of an indication really. Usyk shut him out. Suppose hunter is as good a guide as Takam will be


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    #2064
    ASOT
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    Hunter won't last more than a round or two I'd say, the size difference will be massive.


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    #2065
    megadodge
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    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Yep that’s true. I don’t think it’s much of an indication really. Usyk shut him out. Suppose hunter is as good a guide as Takam will be

    No he didn't.
    That was a close fight until the last 3-4 rounds. Usyk's engine won that fight for him.


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    #2066
    Angliru
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    Hunter did quite well against Usyk but lost convincingly and probably lost a few years of his career towards the end, should have been stopped and it would have been by any competent referee. He should give Joshua a thing or two to think about for however long it lasts.


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    #2067
    ASOT
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    Whyte v Rivas announced for 20th July at the O2


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    #2068
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    How will Whyte Rivas go? Think whyte will be able to bully too much.
    Chisora eating some left hooks tonight. Don’t like the look of him here


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    #2069
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Chisora eating some left hooks tonight. Don’t like the look of him here

    Chisora has never been good.


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    #2070
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Chisora has never been good.

    Correct! Ultimate journeyman. Slow and lumbering. Easy fight for top guys. Winning this one though Gashi not doing much


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    #2071
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Correct! Ultimate journeyman. Slow and lumbering. Easy fight for top guys. Winning this one though Gashi not doing much

    Gashi looks like a blown up middleweight.


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