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memorystick · 08-04-2019 01:45PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Your vet wouldn't do that if there was a Veterinary Inspector on a visit. He'd find himself struck off pretty sharpish.

Of course it happens. And yes, a vet will usually touch the neck, and resort to calipers if something out-of-the-ordinary appears. But that's not a safe practice, and I would indeed call the numbers random, because nobody can claim to be able to measure a bump in mm by handling it with their palms. Frankly it isn't good enough when so many farmers have faced massive economic hardship after going down to TB.

Any marginal ones we had our vet always told us to have them gone for next year.

Albert Johnson · 08-04-2019 01:54PM

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Would it be as much as this i was thinking around 20 cents for regulars ?

I wouldn't have thought the difference would be that much although even if it was they'd hardly come out and tell us either in fairness. I'd imagine there is some sort of a premium over base and more room to negotiate on other issues. Let's say if weight, age and other limits were relaxed it would still make a substantial difference on all those supposed "doubles" of cattle without raising the price per kilo any great amount.

Some are fixated on the price per kilo and lose sight of the bigger picture imo. It sounds great that you got 10c more than Johnny next door but if there's increased haulage, clipping ect and they screw you on weights or grades it's not long eroding it. What your not penalised for is as important as what your rewarded for with the way the trade is at the moment imo. Lastly it's of course important to remember that this is all coming from a suckler man who sells everything in the live ring.

wrangler · 08-04-2019 02:02PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Your vet wouldn't do that if there was a Veterinary Inspector on a visit. He'd find himself struck off pretty sharpish.

Of course it happens. And yes, a vet will usually touch the neck, and resort to calipers if something out-of-the-ordinary appears. But that's not a safe practice, and I would indeed call the numbers random, because nobody can claim to be able to measure a bump in mm by handling it with their palms. Frankly it isn't good enough when so many farmers have faced massive economic hardship after going down to TB.

Only ever had one reactor in all the years I was farming and all stock went to factory so the herd was clean.
It's fifteen years since I had cattle here, never saw too many bumps needin measuring

Sugarbowl · 08-04-2019 02:51PM

A couple of mart prices from the weekend:
I thought weanling bulls should be better for the time of year. Not a great take for them at all.

Bullocks
LM 420 1110
LM 485 1150
LM 405 1090
LM 372 860 black coloured
LM 375 940

Bulls
AA 320 645
AU 330 690
LM 315 665

Heifers
AA 493 885
AA 300 640
AA 295 625
AA 310 560
LM 360 850

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 03:04PM

Sold 2 July bulls the other day.
Black lim 280kg €830
Golden lim out of chx cow 315kg €1010

Albert Johnson · 08-04-2019 03:09PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold 2 July bulls the other day.
Black lim 280kg €830
Golden lim out of chx cow 315kg €1010

Nothing much wrong with that, it's always nice to get an odd cash injection from now until the main weanling sales start.

Sugarbowl · 08-04-2019 03:33PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold 2 July bulls the other day.
Black lim 280kg €830
Golden lim out of chx cow 315kg €1010

I need to take my bulls to your mart. Those kind of animals were not making that kind of money at all the last day. You would have been lucky to hit the 700e mark!

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 03:36PM

Sugarbowl wrote: »

I need to take my bulls to your mart. Those kind of animals were not making that kind of money at all the last day. You would have been lucky to hit the 700e mark!

They were outwintered. Looked well compared to all the other stock coming out of sheds covered in sh1t.

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 03:38PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Nothing much wrong with that, it's always nice to get an odd cash injection from now until the main weanling sales start.

Ya, always keep some to sell in the spring and early summer when there is nothing else coming in.

memorystick · 08-04-2019 06:01PM

Any go on Fr yearlings?

Sugarbowl · 08-04-2019 06:42PM

What are people's thoughts on the best time to sell the weanlings in the Spring? Do ye wait till before or after Easter? The easter week sales are generally good enough around here. It's falling later in the year this year though.

jfh · 08-04-2019 06:48PM

I've got a few quality store bullocks to sell, before or after Easter?thoughts. Thanks

Limestone Cowboy · 08-04-2019 07:04PM

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What are people's thoughts on the best time to sell the weanlings in the Spring? Do ye wait till before or after Easter? The easter week sales are generally good enough around here. It's falling later in the year this year though.

When there's grass and the lads buying the bare minimum for the anc are running out of time.

Sugarbowl · 08-04-2019 07:11PM

When there's grass and the lads buying the bare minimum for the anc are running out of time.

Good point. Anyone know when the ANC deadline is?

TooOldBoots · 08-04-2019 08:57PM

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Good point. Anyone know when the ANC deadline is?

Deadline for applying is midnight May 15th

Rules are you must have the minimum stocking rate of 0.15 livestock units per hectare for 7 consecutive months
so the 31st of May to the 31st of December would be the last 7 month period

Rules also state that you must have an average of 0.15 livestock units per month for 12 months. So in reality if you only kept stock for the 7 months your minimum stocking density for those 7 months is 0.28 livestock units per hectare

sonnybill · 09-04-2019 10:39PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold 2 July bulls the other day.
Black lim 280kg €830
Golden lim out of chx cow 315kg €1010

Great money for the goldie one

Fine Day · 16-04-2019 01:56PM

Went to a mart to see if a could buy a few young heifers yesterday.
Crazy prices for plain angus heifers. On average 330 kgs hitting nearly €700. Lads mad buying for grass. I went home with nothing. Great prices for the seller.

Danzy · 16-04-2019 04:14PM

Theheff wrote: »

Went to a mart to see if a could buy a few young heifers yesterday.
Crazy prices for plain angus heifers. On average 330 kgs hitting nearly €700. Lads mad buying for grass. I went home with nothing. Great prices for the seller.

Hard to figure out.

whelan2 · 16-04-2019 05:10PM

If you bring cattle to the mart and bring them home again is it classed as 0,1, or 2 movements?

Fine Day · 16-04-2019 05:11PM

Danzy wrote: »

Hard to figure out.

Its the same every year & this year seem no exception.

Fine Day · 16-04-2019 05:12PM

whelan2 wrote: »

If you bring cattle to the mart and bring them home again is it classed as 0,1, or 2 movements?

No moves recorded I think as the cattle never changed hands.

High bike · 16-04-2019 05:54PM

whelan2 wrote: »

If you bring cattle to the mart and bring them home again is it classed as 0,1, or 2 movements?

its one movement which I think is redicuous as the cattle never leave your herd and are only out of your own yard for a few hrs,another scam in favor of the factories

wrangler · 16-04-2019 05:58PM

High bike wrote: »

its one movement which I think is redicuous as the cattle never leave your herd and are only out of your own yard for a few hrs,another scam in favor of the factories

I think you're wrong It's not a movement

Lady Haywire · 16-04-2019 06:02PM

It will show as a movement on the board in the mart at future sales but won't be classed as a movement in the factory.

Bullocks · 16-04-2019 06:05PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

It will show as a movement on the board in the mart at future sales but won't be classed as a movement in the factory.

Talk about confusing! A mate of mine reckons he gets caught with the odd animal in the factory that has more moves than he saw on the mart board aswell

wrangler · 16-04-2019 06:05PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

It will show as a movement on the board in the mart at future sales but won't be classed as a movement in the factory.

An Irish solution to an Irish problem

Base price · 16-04-2019 06:09PM

High bike wrote: »

its one movement which I think is redicuous as the cattle never leave your herd and are only out of your own yard for a few hrs,another scam in favor of the factories

Are you sure about that cause no movement has taken place i.e. compliance cert completed which is the criteria for a movement with DAFM - the exception is a temporary movement to a show which is also not classified as a movement.
In Whelan's case the only indication that the animals were in a mart is that the card maybe stamped with the mart code, date and lot number.

Lady Haywire · 16-04-2019 06:14PM

Unless it's changed, that's the way it used to be anyway! Same went for bringing cattle to agri shows, would show up in the mart.
Factory only looked at changes of herd numbers.

whelan2 · 16-04-2019 06:14PM

Base price wrote: »

Are you sure about that cause no movement has taken place i.e. compliance cert completed which is the criteria for a movement with DAFM - the exception is a temporary movement to a show which is also not classified as a movement.
In Whelan's case the only indication that the animals were in a mart is that the card maybe stamped with the mart code, date and lot number.

I sold an animal in the mart today. Sold around 3pm. On agfood at noon the movement had been recorded. Just wondered what the story was if I hadn't sold it.

Lady Haywire · 16-04-2019 06:22PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I sold an animal in the mart today. Sold around 3pm. On agfood at noon the movement had been recorded. Just wondered what the story was if I hadn't sold it.

The mart 'accepts' the animal to the sale each morning. So it shows up as O1234567 -> MXXX (I think O is Louth? Getting rusty in my old age :pac:)
If it's unsold the animal will go from MXXX back into the herd number the following day once the movements are sent off & sale is closed. Though if you wanted an animal sent into a herd number immediately it can be done too.

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