Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

Remind me · 29-03-2019 12:40pm

Panrich wrote: »

I can't decipher his record from this. Are you saying he has 16 wins and 34 losses out of 51 rounds?

No that’s the finishes he’s had in the WGC. Got to round of 16 one year but hasn’t come out of the groups in other years.

I was having a look last night and he has always had difficult groups due to his ranking going into the event.

Trampas · 29-03-2019 5:30pm

Im going well on pga

Shane won’t like that but once he doesn’t win he should be ok.

A win today would help Shane though as last night half could be huge

Donald Trumped · 29-03-2019 8:41pm

Justin Harding has won his second match in the match play.
Sungjae Im is leading in the Dominican Republic

The pressure very much on for Shane big time. In trouble at the 12th and looks like he will relinquish his 1 up lead against Putnam. Squeaky bum time for the Offaly man.

Mushy · 29-03-2019 8:49pm

Will the points in Puerto Rico be enough to move somebody that far up the rankings?

Panrich · 29-03-2019 8:53pm

Looks like Putnam has put it in the water on 13

Donald Trumped · 29-03-2019 8:57pm

Mushy wrote: »

Will the points in Puerto Rico be enough to move somebody that far up the rankings?

Solo 2nd in the Dominican Republic, I believe will be enough for Im to go into the world's top 50.

Mushy · 29-03-2019 9:04pm

Donald Trumped wrote: »

Solo 2nd in the Dominican Republic, I believe will be enough for Im to go into the world's top 50.

Up 9 places yet loads of those ahead playing WGC too? Seems excessive

abff · 29-03-2019 9:08pm

Justin Harding's win today is almost certain to move him ahead of Shane in the world rankings. Hard to credit that Shane could manage to fall outside the top 50 before the Masters cut off point, but starting to look quite possible. Fingers crossed!

Donald Trumped · 29-03-2019 9:10pm

Mushy wrote: »

Up 9 places yet loads of those ahead playing WGC too? Seems excessive

Please forgive me Mushy but it seems that with recent results in the match play going against Im, the South Korean needs a win in DR to qualify for the world's top 50. Solo 2nd will not be enough it seems.

The twitter handle nosferatu is the best World ranking guru around. Follow him on twitter and he is the man who is at his element this week, of who's in and out of the Masters and other world ranking news.

Mushy · 29-03-2019 9:11pm

abff wrote: »

Justin Harding's win today is almost certain to move him ahead of Shane in the world rankings. Hard to credit that Shane could manage to fall outside the top 50 before the Masters cut off point, but starting to look quite possible. Fingers crossed!

What if Shane wins too? Concern would be Bjerregard who got through group

Remind me · 29-03-2019 9:23pm

2 up

Panrich · 29-03-2019 9:26pm

Does it go on points or position in group? If He wins and Reed doesn't win he finishes solo second in his group (same as Harding)

Remind me · 29-03-2019 9:40pm

Good win. Will definitely get masters

Donald Trumped · 29-03-2019 9:42pm

Panrich wrote: »

Does it go on points or position in group? If He wins and Reed doesn't win he finishes solo second in his group (same as Harding)

In relation to Lowry, it is not dependent on where he finishes in the group. Basically by winning his match against Putnam he will get the same world ranking points as Jon Rahm and Cabrera Bello for winning 1, losing 1 and drawing 1 match for example.

TheCitizen · 29-03-2019 9:47pm

fullstop wrote: »

Don't think it would. His matchplay record as a pro is dreadful.

A win and a tie in this tournament, not bad. I disagree I think he'd be a great team player for Harrington's Ryder Cup team.

Golfhead65 · 29-03-2019 9:54pm

That's enough for Shane to be in the Masters, Looking forward to cheering on one of our own and into the bargain I'm playing Esker Hills Fri,sat sun of the Masters with 23 other lads and staying over as well, it'll be good athmosphere in clubhouse that weekend

Dayor Knight · 29-03-2019 9:58pm

Four birdies on the back nine for a comfortable 3 and 2. Nice going, Shane. Roll on the Masters!

fullstop · 29-03-2019 10:32pm

TheCitizen wrote: »

A win and a tie in this tournament, not bad. I disagree I think he'd be a great team player for Harrington's Ryder Cup team.

Which brings his record to W4, L8, D3.

Don't know what makes you think he'd make a good Ryder Cup player. If he shows consistent form and plays his way onto the team then I'm sure he'd hold his own, but he's way too streaky to pick unless something changes.

Anyway, he's in the Masters and I'm sure that's all he's looking at for now.

Golfhead65 · 29-03-2019 10:41pm

fullstop wrote: »

Which brings his record to W4, L8, D3.

Don't know what makes you think he'd make a good Ryder Cup player. If he shows consistent form and plays his way onto the team then I'm sure he'd hold his own, but he's way too streaky to pick unless something changes.

Anyway, he's in the Masters and I'm sure that's all he's looking at for now.

Tiger Woods Ryder Cup record is W 13 L 21 H 3...Would you say Tiger deserves to be in or out of Ryder Cup team USA... Matchplay Golf is so different that probably the 2nd greatest golfer ever hasn't mastered the format...BTW Jack was and still is the greatest ..haha my opinion

Remind me · 29-03-2019 10:42pm

fullstop wrote: »

Which brings his record to W4, L8, D3.

Don't know what makes you think he'd make a good Ryder Cup player. If he shows consistent form and plays his way onto the team then I'm sure he'd hold his own, but he's way too streaky to pick unless something changes.

Anyway, he's in the Masters and I'm sure that's all he's looking at for now.

That’s 15 rounds of golf in the last 7 years out of 100’s.

You can hardly call his record dreadful. He has proved he can win big events and there really is nothing to say he wouldn’t be successful in a Ryder Cup.

fullstop · 29-03-2019 10:43pm

Golfhead65 wrote: »

Tiger Woods Ryder Cup record is W 13 L 21 H 3...Would you say Tiger deserves to be in or out of Ryder Cup team USA... Matchplay Golf is so different that probably the 2nd greatest golfer ever hasn't mastered the format...BTW Jack was and still is the greatest ..haha my opinion

He deserves to be in it because he qualifies, but they'd be better off without him IMO. He plays ****e in it by and large and most who play with him seem to as well due to the added pressure.

fullstop · 29-03-2019 10:46pm

Remind me wrote: »

That’s 15 rounds of golf in the last 7 years out of 100’s.

You can hardly call his record dreadful. He has proved he can win big events and there really is nothing to say he wouldn’t be successful in a Ryder Cup.

He has won big events, but what has he done in between? Post his record since Abu Dhabi there if you like.

Ryder Cup is 3 days, and you can't pick someone just because he won once, but missed the cut in half the other tournaments just 'cause he's Irish and a great lad.

Remind me · 29-03-2019 10:57pm

fullstop wrote: »

He has won big events, but what has he done in between? Post his record since Abu Dhabi there if you like.

Ryder Cup is 3 days, and you can't pick someone just because he won once, but missed the cut in half the other tournaments just 'cause he's Irish and a great lad.

I’ve already said he’ll have to play his way in IMO

I am just questioning your ‘dreadful’ match play record comment from 1 tournament in a round robin format where he has been drawn in extremely difficult groups. His team event record is won 2 lost 1 but you rant away....

Golfhead65 · 29-03-2019 10:59pm

fullstop wrote: »

He deserves to be in it because he qualifies, but they'd be better off without him IMO. He plays ****e in it by and large and most who play with him seem to as well due to the added pressure.

Totally agree with you but that's what the complex nature of Matchplay golf is, you qualify by all stroke play events then you play Matchplay, that's what makes it so interesting and such a leveller

fullstop · 29-03-2019 11:18pm

Remind me wrote: »

I’ve already said he’ll have to play his way in IMO

I am just questioning your ‘dreadful’ match play record comment from 1 tournament in a round robin format where he has been drawn in extremely difficult groups. His team event record is won 2 lost 1 but you rant away....

Maybe "dreadful" was a little harsh, but it's not good, is it?

The reason he is in 'very difficult groups' every time he qualifies for this week is because you're guaranteed at least 2 players in the top 32 in every group. This year wasn't actually that difficult a group, OWGR number 17 and 27 as the top 2 seeds in the group. In the Ryder Cup, pretty much everyone is in that bracket, so a foursomes victory over Lahiri in the EurAsia cup might not be that much to fall back on.

Anyway, my original point was in reply to someone saying he could get a pick, we both agree that's unlikely. If he plays his way on, he'll do fine.

Panrich · 30-03-2019 12:04am

fullstop wrote: »

He has won big events, but what has he done in between? Post his record since Abu Dhabi there if you like.

Ryder Cup is 3 days, and you can't pick someone just because he won once, but missed the cut in half the other tournaments just 'cause he's Irish and a great lad.

When he is good , he is very very good.......

He certainly blows very hot and cold and you can't depend on which Shane you're going to get on any particular week.

So, I agree if he doesn't play himself on to the team, then he's not Captains pick material.

I really hope that everyone on here is right and he's done enough to get into the Masters. It might be a springboard for his season.

HighLine · 30-03-2019 1:00am

https://twitter.com/VC606/status/1111779858177249280

redarmy · 30-03-2019 2:46am

HighLine wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VC606/status/1111779858177249280

is in unless ALL THREE of these things happen -

*Sungjae Im wins in the Dominican Republic -AND-
*Bjerregard wins both matches Saturday -AND-
*Kevin Na reaches the final or finishes 3rd

Trampas · 30-03-2019 6:27am

Like Poulter from last year

Kisner still playing so he can push him down a spot so only 2 of above has to happen? As he’s 50th so will push Shane to 49th?

Dayor Knight · 30-03-2019 9:45am

HighLine wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VC606/status/1111779858177249280

Source: Nosferatu on Twitter.

GreeBo · 30-03-2019 9:47am

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Source: Nosferatu on Twitter.

Erm... huh?

HighLine · 30-03-2019 11:00am

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Source: Nosferatu on Twitter.

Your point??

abff · 30-03-2019 3:40pm

redarmy wrote: »

is in unless ALL THREE of these things happen -

*Sungjae Im wins in the Dominican Republic -AND-
*Bjerregard wins both matches Saturday -AND-
*Kevin Na reaches the final or finishes 3rd

My calculations are slightly different. I've had a look at the rankings and I've plugged the results so far into a spreadsheet. As we know, Shane is currently 48th in the world rankings.

The bad news is that Kisner and Harding are going to move ahead of him in next week's rankings. The good news is that he's going to overtake Olesen and Snedeker. This leaves him still in 48th, but there are three players who could potentially move ahead of him.

By my reckoning, Bjerregaard needs to reach the quarter finals and Na needs to get to the semi finals in order to move past Shane in the rankings. Im needs a win in the Dominican Republic.

Trampas · 30-03-2019 5:14pm

Looks like na and Lucas are getting to next round.

Shane looking hard over the shoulder now

Golfgorfield · 30-03-2019 6:14pm

Na will have to beat molinari, Lucas will have to beat Tiger, and IM will have to win the other tournament. In all honesty if all three happen itll be a full on miracle.

GreeBo · 30-03-2019 6:37pm

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Na will have to beat molinari, Lucas will have to beat Tiger, and IM will have to win the other tournament. In all honesty if all three happen itll be a full on miracle.

I can see any of those things happening...but all of them seems like a stretch.

Golfgorfield · 30-03-2019 6:51pm

GreeBo wrote: »

I can see any of those things happening...but all of them seems like a stretch.

I'm gonna have a punt on Lucas beating tiger, fitness and talent reasons.

Trampas · 30-03-2019 7:09pm

Anyone know what are his plans after Augusta? Has he a few invites until pga

GreeBo · 30-03-2019 7:39pm

Golfgorfield wrote: »

I'm gonna have a punt on Lucas beating tiger, fitness and talent reasons.

I think Na could do Molinari...he is funny that way.

/edit
Though at 3dn, what do I know!

/editx2

Lol

abff · 30-03-2019 8:15pm

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Na will have to beat molinari, Lucas will have to beat Tiger, and IM will have to win the other tournament. In all honesty if all three happen itll be a full on miracle.

According to my calculations, Lucas only needed to get to the QF to move ahead of Lowry in the rankings.

YoTaro · 30-03-2019 8:28pm

GreeBo wrote: »

I think Na could do Molinari...he is funny that way.

/edit
Though at 3dn, what do I know!

/editx2

Lol

Ouch!!

Some golf from Molinari

Mushy · 30-03-2019 9:45pm

McDowell in lead now, Im back in T3

Golfgorfield · 30-03-2019 10:16pm

It's over, hes in, Na lost.

Rikand · 30-03-2019 10:17pm

Well Shane, I guess you're the winner by default....

Dayor Knight · 30-03-2019 10:32pm

HighLine wrote: »

Your point??

Rikand wrote: »

Well Shane, I guess you're the winner by default....

Hardly by default, just because some far fetched sequence of results didn't occur. He's in because he's in the top 50 when it counts. He's earned it.

Go on and enjoy every minute of it now, Shane.

abff · 30-03-2019 10:51pm

Rikand wrote: »

Well Shane, I guess you're the winner by default...

Definitely a bit harsh. He would have been very unlucky not to make it into the top 50 for the Masters, but his bad run of results over recent weeks put him at risk.

Having said that, to come back and win 1.5 points from his last two matches after losing to Sergio was a great recovery and was also crucial in terms of staying in the top 50. The margin between him and Snedeker is minimal (2.486 vs 2.484) and not much more versus Olesen (2.404), so those 1.5 points were crucial.

Rikand · 31-03-2019 12:16am

He was fairly hanging on in the end though lol.

Fairplay to him. I'll look forward to seeing him tee it up in Augusta

Zaph · 01-04-2019 12:11am

Lowry makes the Masters with a place to spare - 49th in the latest rankings. Fair play to him.

gypsy79 · 01-04-2019 10:38am

Zaph wrote: »

Lowry makes the Masters with a place to spare - 49th in the latest rankings. Fair play to him.

And he would have made it if he lost all 3 games

abff · 01-04-2019 6:37pm

gypsy79 wrote: »

And he would have made it if he lost all 3 games

That's true, as things turned out. But that's only because Na lost his QF and Im didn't win in the Dominican Republic.

Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

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