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Irish winner in Euromillions 175 million..

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    #332
    murpho999
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    I read some where yesterday one of the family members said that the win "won't change their lives".

    Heard this said before by numerous Lotto winners.

    Why do they buy tickets then if they don't want a large life changing win?


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    #333
    Wibbs
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Divorce is very common in the UK for people who never won the Lotto.
    Well his point was it's significantly higher among large lotto winners. Three or four times higher IIRC. The number who go broke in a few years after winning the "smaller" sums of a few millions is quite high too. While a million sounds like and is a lot of money and if you're frugal and can manage money it would make a big difference in the average life, but if you go even slightly nuts and can't manage money you could piss through it remarkably easily. I know someone who out of the blue inherited around three mill from an externally "poor" bachelor uncle and it was pretty much gone after about five years with little to show for it.
    murpho999 wrote:
    I read some where yesterday one of the family members said that the win "won't change their lives".

    Heard this said before by numerous Lotto winners.

    Why do they buy tickets then if they don't want a large life changing win?
    It's just something people say, almost as if they're expected to say it as they've heard it themselves from previous winners. Like those who say they won't stop going into work/we'll stay in the house we've always lived in etc. It's all bollocks of course. Any lotto win/sudden large windfall is life changing, when it's tens of millions it's massively life changing. If it had been a single winner of that kinda cash their lives would change almost unrecognisably.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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    #334
    fryup
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    Jet Black wrote: »
    Everyone in the Naul knows who they are so they are guaranteed not to live their life in peace with people looking for money off them. Ordinary life is over for them now. A guy I worked with said he knew someone who won a million, went the pub and looked after everyone for the night. Everyone was calling him a stingy bastard for not giving them money. You can't win. If he gave them all a few grand he'd still be stingy for only giving a few grand after winning a million.

    they got 175 mill, if they were to give a grand to each household in the country wouldn't it be a lovely gesture

    they'd still have plenty left over (mind you i didn't do the maths)


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    #335
    mickdw
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    Say 1 million households - 175 euro to each household. All money gone.
    Not a good plan.


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    #336
    fryup
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    but, its the thought that counts


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    #337
    PingTing comes for Fire
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    fryup wrote: »
    they got 175 mill, if they were to give a grand to each household in the country wouldn't it be a lovely gesture

    As usual. The homeless get screwed.


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    #338
    beertons
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    The win won't change their lives. 2 of the family calling in sick to work yesterday. Maybe they have a habit of sick leave.


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    #339
    velo.2010
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You have to laugh though, apparently, the family syndicate are all retired and say they don't want the win to change their lives! Why do the feckin thing then? :confused:

    This, I don't understand. Apparently, they are not short of a few quid (one of them won e500,000 according to someone on here). As a syndicate, they're probably putting in a 100 euro a week, at least, into the Euromilions. No one who could really do with that money could ever afford to spend that amount on the Lotto.

    There is something about the older generation and money. Perhaps it's just about securing the future for their children etc. I find it odd in any case. I remember Pat Kenny telling a story of how an older person on his show won a car and he asked them did they drive. They said 'no' and he asked why did they enter the prize draw? They replied, 'because I never win anything'! Bizarre.

    Maybe, it's just old fashioned greed. You hear about people buying up the scratch cards and appearing on Winning Streak several times or those folk who spent a small fortune on phone numbers trying to get on Who Wants to be a Millionaire. That greed and their success then breeds jealously in those who wonder 'why not me?'. Well, go spend some money on tickets and phone numbers and see where you end up!


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    #340
    keano25
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    What about the lady that didn't want the toy show tickets but wanted the 10k..


    https://youtu.be/kVf7nDFzkUo


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    #341
    W123-80's
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    I always thought a sum of money this large could ruin a family for generations.

    Imagine if a couple with teenage kids won that.

    Kids might switch off, forget about education and ever working.

    And with the amount, their kids could do same and so on.

    I just said the exact same thing this morning.
    It would need to be managed very carefully from the kids point of view. Kids who have been born into very wealthy families have grown up in that environment, a normal 9-5 family with a couple of teenagers or whatever suddenly fining themselves with insane amounts of money is an entirely different proposition.
    I'm not saying every family would fall asunder, but it has the potential to screw up future generations.
    I honestly think its far too much money and the jackpot should be broken into lots of smaller amounts, 1/2 million for example. That is a far more manageable sum and would make a positive difference of lots of peoples lives.


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    #342
    El_Bee
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    W123-80's wrote: »
    I honestly think its far too much money and the jackpot should be broken into lots of smaller amounts, 1/2 million for example. That is a far more manageable sum and would make a positive difference of lots of peoples lives.


    People would just play their national lotteries.


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    #343
    dxhound2005
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    Here's a question to which my poor brain can't figure out the answer. For arguments sake say the general divorce rate in the UK is 4 in 10, 40 out of every 100 marriages. There is a claim that where a husband or wife wins big on the Lottery, that makes a divorce 3 to 4 times more likely than non winners.

    Call it 4. How many Lottery winner marriages out of 100 end in divorce?


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    #344
    idle
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    FFS very few of these syndicate wins are actual syndicate wins. One family member wins the jackpot. They plan on sharing it with the family and don’t want to pay tax on it so they say it’s a syndicate.


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    #345
    juneg
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    idle wrote: »
    FFS very few of these syndicate wins are actual syndicate wins. One family member wins the jackpot. They plan on sharing it with the family and don’t want to pay tax on it so they say it’s a syndicate.

    Ooooh, note to self for future reference!!!!


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    #346
    dxhound2005
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well his point was it's significantly higher among large lotto winners. Three or four times higher IIRC. The number who go broke in a few years after winning the "smaller" sums of a few millions is quite high too. While a million sounds like and is a lot of money and if you're frugal and can manage money it would make a big difference in the average life, but if you go even slightly nuts and can't manage money you could piss through it remarkably easily. I know someone who out of the blue inherited around three mill from an externally "poor" bachelor uncle and it was pretty much gone after about five years with little to show for it.

    It's just something people say, almost as if they're expected to say it as they've heard it themselves from previous winners. Like those who say they won't stop going into work/we'll stay in the house we've always lived in etc. It's all bollocks of course. Any lotto win/sudden large windfall is life changing, when it's tens of millions it's massively life changing. If it had been a single winner of that kinda cash their lives would change almost unrecognisably.

    Is it possible it was 3% to 4% higher, not 300% to 400%? 3% is the reported experience in America.

    I have faith in human nature to be able to deal with getting a lot of money. Most people will suffer worse traumas in a lifetime.

    DOES WINNING CHANGE YOU?
    How common is divorce among lottery winners?
    Money is one of the most common topics couples fight about, but when it comes to the lottery, it actually seems to hold marriages together. The divorce rate post-winning increases only marginally by 3%.


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    #347
    [Deleted User]
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    Not sure if anyone has pointed it out in this thread yet but I've linked the sources in After Hours before:

    Chances of winning Euromillions = 140,000,000 to 1

    Chances of being struck by lightning: 300,000 to 1.

    Yet people still buy tickets for this racket. These, and many other relevant odds for other gambling products, should be publicised on ads for lottery products. The statistical realities of what the pushers of this escapism are selling should be on each of their products.

    With those odds, it really is a tax on stupidity. I hope no atheist is hypocritical enough to buy a ticket/ believe they could possibly win. In terms of fanciful odds, to hope in such a win must be up there with those people who hope that a divine god exists.


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    #348
    dxhound2005
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has pointed it out in this thread yet but I've linked the sources in After Hours before:

    Chances of winning Euromillions = 140,000,000 to 1

    Chances of being struck by lightning: 300,000 to 1.

    Yet people still buy tickets for this racket. These, and many other relevant odds for other gambling products, should be publicised on ads for lottery products. The statistical realities of what the pushers of this escapism are selling should be on each of their products.

    With those odds, it really is a tax on stupidity. I hope no atheist is hypocritical enough to buy a ticket/ believe they could possibly win. In terms of fanciful odds, to hope in such a win must be up there with those people who hope that a divine god exists.

    You can be very sure that it has been pointed out ad nauseam. There is rarely an original thought hereabouts.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=53689267


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    #349
    buried
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    Fuaranach is right. It is the lowest form of escapism too. This chase for the huge amount of greasy money. Anybody could win the lotto next week and still be dead a few weeks after through some disease or just some form of actual daily existence of having to live just like anyone else. Being a multi-millionaire won't save you from an accident or nature itself. If I won that crazy amount of money through basically nothing, I know well I'd be dead not long after it. I'd go cracked. And I would. If you've got your health and the ability to stay grounded and just enjoy the little things like enjoying your health and just being able to learn and discover things, well then, congratulations! Because you just won the lotto.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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    #350
    Del.Monte
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has pointed it out in this thread yet but I've linked the sources in After Hours before:

    Chances of winning Euromillions = 140,000,000 to 1

    Chances of being struck by lightning: 300,000 to 1.

    Yet people still buy tickets for this racket. These, and many other relevant odds for other gambling products, should be publicised on ads for lottery products. The statistical realities of what the pushers of this escapism are selling should be on each of their products.

    With those odds, it really is a tax on stupidity. I hope no atheist is hypocritical enough to buy a ticket/ believe they could possibly win. In terms of fanciful odds, to hope in such a win must be up there with those people who hope that a divine god exists.

    Ah but think of all the good causes the Lotto/Euromillions supports - otherwise the State might have to spend some of its dosh where it should be spent.

    ****



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    #351
    dxhound2005
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    I had an accident 6 months ago which resulted in a broken bone. On balance I would have preferred to win the Lotto.


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    #352
    buried
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I had an accident 6 months ago which resulted in a broken bone. On balance I would have preferred to win the Lotto.

    Well I was in an accident when I was a kid I went flying out the windscreen of a car and a then went a good few feet down the road. As long as that don't happen again I'll take it as winning the lotto. In fact I already have

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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    #353
    dxhound2005
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    buried wrote: »
    Well I was in an accident when I was a kid I went flying out the windscreen of a car and a then went a good few feet down the road. As long as that don't happen again I'll take it as winning the lotto. In fact I already have

    You have the best of both worlds. You are saving a fortune by not doing the Lotto. But when one of your relatives wins they will give you a load of cash.


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    #354
    buried
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    You have the best of both worlds. You are saving a fortune by not doing the Lotto. But when one of your relatives wins they will give you a load of cash.

    lol You never met my relatives D, gang a hoors :)

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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    #355
    NIMAN
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    I see the winners of the €175m are moaning about their win, how they feel like they are in jail.


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    #356
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    I see the winners of the €175m are moaning about their win, how they feel like they are in jail.

    Not moaning about the win, moaning about the publicity and pressure to give interviews.

    Also the fact that their identities were leaked by someone, no doubt a close friend or other family member.

    Id be pissed too, although, I wouldnt be giving any interviews.


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    #357
    vargoo
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    Dale Doback wrote: »
    Not moaning about the win, moaning about the publicity and pressure to give interviews.

    Also the fact that their identities were leaked by someone, no doubt a close friend or other family member.

    Id be pissed too, although, I wouldnt be giving any interviews.

    Did you see the friends on the news the first day, it was killing them to talk.

    No secrets in that village.


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    #358
    El_Bee
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    Dale Doback wrote: »
    Not moaning about the win, moaning about the publicity and pressure to give interviews.

    Also the fact that their identities were leaked by someone, no doubt a close friend or other family member.

    Id be pissed too, although, I wouldnt be giving any interviews.


    I was about to come here and ask if they came out publicly themselves, that's pretty scummy thing to do to, smacks of bitterness and jealousy to try to ruin their lives like that.


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    #359
    realdanbreen
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has pointed it out in this thread yet but I've linked the sources in After Hours before:

    Chances of winning Euromillions = 140,000,000 to 1

    Chances of being struck by lightning: 300,000 to 1.

    Yet people still buy tickets for this racket. These, and many other relevant odds for other gambling products, should be publicised on ads for lottery products. The statistical realities of what the pushers of this escapism are selling should be on each of their products.

    With those odds, it really is a tax on stupidity. I hope no atheist is hypocritical enough to buy a ticket/ believe they could possibly win. In terms of fanciful odds, to hope in such a win must be up there with those people who hope that a divine god exists.


    Hi Ray D'Arcy.
    If you had your way a fella wouldn't be able to have a pint or a flutter now and then. There's more to life than doing push ups and ating beans & nuts!


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    #360
    Wibbs
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Hi Ray D'Arcy.
    If you had your way a fella wouldn't be able to have a pint or a flutter now and then. There's more to life than doing push ups and ating beans & nuts!
    Indeed. I wouldn't be a regular lotto ticket buyer, but I'll have a punt on a line when it goes over the oul 100 millions, for the craic like. And for some reason I'm apparently luckier than the average bear. Since the start of this year I've won over 250 quid on the few tickets I've bought(only got 4 quid IIRC on the last giant one). Not gold plated Ferrari money, :D but still. Actually the very first (Irish) lotto ticket I bought back in the 80's I won nearly 3000 punts. Down the years I'd say I've won close to ten grand on it. Granted I'd only buy maybe six or seven tickets a year, but I seem to win around 30-50% of the tickets I buy and easily recoup the couple of quid outlay. On the other hand I know folks who play on the regular who almost never win.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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    #361
    Hector Savage
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Indeed. I wouldn't be a regular lotto ticket buyer, but I'll have a punt on a line when it goes over the oul 100 millions, for the craic like. And for some reason I'm apparently luckier than the average bear. Since the start of this year I've won over 250 quid on the few tickets I've bought(only got 4 quid IIRC on the last giant one). Not gold plated Ferrari money, :D but still. Actually the very first (Irish) lotto ticket I bought back in the 80's I won nearly 3000 punts. Down the years I'd say I've won close to ten grand on it. Granted I'd only buy maybe six or seven tickets a year, but I seem to win around 30-50% of the tickets I buy and easily recoup the couple of quid outlay. On the other hand I know folks who play on the regular who almost never win.


    Jesus, so you are easily ahead in money invested !
    Very strange statistical anomaly Wibbs, you must have a good Aura!*
    ;)




    * I don't believe this shite


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