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lawless11 · 17-02-2019 01:55PM

iamanengine wrote: »

How many topics are people covering for Tort? i.e. how many do you need to be safe? There's no way I can cover everything...My brain can't handle that many cases!

So i'm not covering (at least):
-animal liability
-fire
-concurrent wrongdoers (fatal injuries etc)

-statutory liablity
-pure economic loss
-public authority liability
-other economic torts (not including passing off)

What do you think?

JCormac · 17-02-2019 02:08PM

nimcdona wrote: »

I'm planning on covering

Succession
Adverse Possession
registered and unregistered land
ownership and possession
family property
co-ownwership

and hopefully easements too

does anyone have any thoughts on if that would cover me? Or is it too risky to be leaving mortgages and landlord and tenant law out?

I second this;

No idea really as it's my first time sitting Property (& FE1s in general) but I'm pretty much the same as you.

Contemplating leaving those two topics out if I can get away with it, but am unsure as to their importance in the grand scheme of Property.

iamanengine · 17-02-2019 02:11PM

lawless11 wrote: »

So i'm not covering (at least):
-animal liability
-fire
-concurrent wrongdoers (fatal injuries etc)

-statutory liablity
-pure economic loss
-public authority liability
-other economic torts (not including passing off)

What do you think?

So far my definites are:

Nuisance/Rylands/Land
Trespass to Person
Negligence/DOC/SOC/Causation
Occupier's Liability
Medical Negligence
Defamation
Damages
Passing Off
Negligent Misstatement

Probably should cover but kind of seem like maybe they are due a rest:
Vicarious Liability
Products Liability

JCormac · 17-02-2019 02:20PM

Would it be ridiculous to leave out Duress (as a defence) for Criminal?

Really feeling the pinch of time now

iamanengine · 17-02-2019 02:54PM

JCormac wrote: »

Would it be ridiculous to leave out Duress (as a defence) for Criminal?

Really feeling the pinch of time now

I'm led to believe the most important defences to know are Provocation (but this goes with homicide more so), Lawful Excuse, Insanity, Intoxication and Automatism (goes with Actus Reus).

Necessity, Mistake, Entrapment, Infancy are less important, I'm gunna know 1/2 cases for each.

I'd put duress in the middle of that important wise. Maybe just learn the main cases in case it comes up as part of another Q? E.g. if the bulk of a question is about homicide but duress was involved you might only have to drop 1 or 2 big cases to pick up the marks in relation to duress.

Just my opinion!

Yohnathan · 17-02-2019 03:28PM

For those doing Property, do not leave out findings/Treasure Trove.

It is the easiest topic in the FE1s to prepare and to learn and comes up so often. You would be mad to leave it out.

Breacnua · 17-02-2019 03:30PM

JCormac wrote: »

Would it be ridiculous to leave out Duress (as a defence) for Criminal?

Really feeling the pinch of time now

know what it is and know a main case or two.

Breacnua · 17-02-2019 03:33PM

Yohnathan wrote: »

For those doing Property, do not leave out findings/Treasure Trove.

It is the easiest topic in the FE1s to prepare and to learn and comes up so often. You would be mad to leave it out.

what would you recommend to cover for property

Yohnathan · 17-02-2019 03:41PM

Breacnua wrote: »

what would you recommend to cover for property

I sat property three sittings ago so cannot fully remember to be honest. But I know that every exam, people think of leaving out treasure trove and it always seemed to come up.

I might have my notes on TT still. Its the sort of answer you can do in 10 minutes in the exam and saves your time for the more difficult topics that come up.

nimcdona · 17-02-2019 03:59PM

JCormac wrote: »

I second this;

No idea really as it's my first time sitting Property (& FE1s in general) but I'm pretty much the same as you.

Contemplating leaving those two topics out if I can get away with it, but am unsure as to their importance in the grand scheme of Property.

First time for Fe1s and law for me too so a bit clueless,

Hopefully we'll be ok without them anyway...

nimcdona · 17-02-2019 04:03PM

Any idea how important criminal procedure topic is in the scheme of criminal law?

iamanengine · 17-02-2019 04:26PM

Breacnua wrote: »

what would you recommend to cover for property

May as well procrastinate further...

I'm doing:

Succession x 2 - Almost always there are 2 questions on succession.
Adverse Possession - Comes up 99% of the time.
Co-Ownership - Comes up 90% of the time.
Finding - Comes up a lot, hasn't come up last 2 sittings and is a lovely topic.
Mortgages
Registration
Easements

I might cover Family Property as well cos it's a handy topic though it came up last sitting.

iamanengine · 17-02-2019 04:27PM

Does anyone have an up to date grid for Criminal? Can swap for Tort, Property or Contract.

JCormac · 17-02-2019 05:42PM

iamanengine wrote: »

I'm led to believe the most important defences to know are Provocation (but this goes with homicide more so), Lawful Excuse, Insanity, Intoxication and Automatism (goes with Actus Reus).

Necessity, Mistake, Entrapment, Infancy are less important, I'm gunna know 1/2 cases for each.

I'd put duress in the middle of that important wise. Maybe just learn the main cases in case it comes up as part of another Q? E.g. if the bulk of a question is about homicide but duress was involved you might only have to drop 1 or 2 big cases to pick up the marks in relation to duress.

Just my opinion!

Thank you!

You're right yeah, I'll just brush up on it lightly because it'd be crazy not to.

Knowing my luck it'll come up anyway, but sure listen

JCormac · 17-02-2019 05:48PM

nimcdona wrote: »

Any idea how important criminal procedure topic is in the scheme of criminal law?

Apparently it comes up as a question nearly every year, sometimes with two questions (?) that's what the Independent colleges criminal lecturer said on the topic anyway.

I was tempted to leave it out until I heard that.

bigtophat13 · 17-02-2019 07:21PM

For a trespass to person question in tort where someone is on someone else's property and the property owner threatens, batters and falsely imprisons them as they often do in the problem questions, how would you work the Defence of Dwellings Act 2011 into that. I'm just doing criminal at the moment and I'm wondering about the applicability. I know obviously one is civil and the other is criminal but I'm just wondering what anyone else may think?

iamanengine · 17-02-2019 07:43PM

bigtophat13 wrote: »

For a trespass to person question in tort where someone is on someone else's property and the property owner threatens, batters and falsely imprisons them as they often do in the problem questions, how would you work the Defence of Dwellings Act 2011 into that. I'm just doing criminal at the moment and I'm wondering about the applicability. I know obviously one is civil and the other is criminal but I'm just wondering what anyone else may think?

The act applies as a defence to criminal and civil liability. So if the Q is about an assault occurring in someone's home you could mention that they may be able to use the 2011 Act as a defence if they were the homeowner, reasonable force was used, subjective test etc.

yournerd · 17-02-2019 08:19PM

nimcdona wrote: »

Any idea how important criminal procedure topic is in the scheme of criminal law?

it might come as part of an answer but never on its own

Breacnua · 17-02-2019 08:43PM

nimcdona wrote: »

Any idea how important criminal procedure topic is in the scheme of criminal law?

mostly - theres 1 Q on paper from this area

can leave it out but would want to have all other areas known well

sometimes it can be a handy Q

nimcdona · 18-02-2019 12:50AM

Breacnua wrote: »

mostly - theres 1 Q on paper from this area

can leave it out but would want to have all other areas known well

sometimes it can be a handy Q

Ah ok, thank you!

I'll try and fit it in if I can so

lawless11 · 18-02-2019 01:22AM

Any ideas of what can be left aside for Constitutional in terms of topics?

Nikcan18 · 18-02-2019 11:36AM

Would anyone have good condensed notes on equity? I got some but they are not the best I have criminal contract or eu to swap.

Im also looking advice on which trusts are most likely to come up and what I can leave out as I am trying to condense as much as possible at this stage.

Jimdtug1 · 18-02-2019 12:02PM

Are any of the one day revision courses worth doing?

nimcdona · 18-02-2019 01:33PM

Nikcan18 wrote: »

Would anyone have good condensed notes on equity? I got some but they are not the best I have criminal contract or eu to swap.

Im also looking advice on which trusts are most likely to come up and what I can leave out as I am trying to condense as much as possible at this stage.

I was told with regards to trusts to do express, resulting, constructive and charitable trusts, hope that helps

But I noticed in October 2017 q1 was a problem question with resulting trusts and secret trusts, so theres always a possibility they'll be mixed, so its always going to be a risk I reckon

jewels652 · 18-02-2019 02:02PM

Hello everyone,

So I am starting memorising the materials today.
For criminal I am covering:
1. Means and actus rea
2. Homicide
3. Complicity in offences
4. Non FatalOAP Act
5. Sexual offences
6. Property offences
7. Public order offences
8. Offences against justice
9. Incohate offences
10. Practice procedure detention and bail
11. Defences

For Eu I am covering

1. Competition law
2. Free movement of goods and workers
3. Judicial review art 263
4. General principles
5. Equality
6. Citizenship
7. Direct effect
8. Institutions
9. Sources of Eu law

I am well covered for both subjects ???
If I was to leave something out what should it be??

TÍA

iamanengine · 18-02-2019 05:21PM

jewels652 wrote: »

Hello everyone,

So I am starting memorising the materials today.
For criminal I am covering:
1. Means and actus rea
2. Homicide
3. Complicity in offences
4. Non FatalOAP Act
5. Sexual offences
6. Property offences
7. Public order offences
8. Offences against justice
9. Incohate offences
10. Practice procedure detention and bail
11. Defences

For Eu I am covering

1. Competition law
2. Free movement of goods and workers
3. Judicial review art 263
4. General principles
5. Equality
6. Citizenship
7. Direct effect
8. Institutions
9. Sources of Eu law

I am well covered for both subjects ???
If I was to leave something out what should it be??

TÍA

You would have to be unbelievably unlucky not to be more than sufficiently covered for Criminal with that. If I was to leave out something it would be Offences against Justice.

JCormac · 19-02-2019 11:52AM

Has anybody been successful in sourcing (allowed) physical copies of The Sale of Goods & supply of Services Act 1990 & Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the Contract exam?

Been looking around for them myself and haven't been having much luck unforch

Nikcan18 · 19-02-2019 12:13PM

JCormac wrote: »

Has anybody been successful in sourcing (allowed) physical copies of The Sale of Goods & supply of Services Act 1990 & Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the Contract exam?

Been looking around for them myself and haven't been having much luck unforch

Have you contacted the government publication office? 076 1106 834

JCormac · 19-02-2019 01:19PM

Nikcan18 wrote: »

Have you contacted the government publication office? 076 1106 834

Great, thank you!

I didn't actually. I'll ring them in a bit & edit the comment then to say how I got on. (Just in case other people are looking for the Acts also)

Update:

Got the Sale of Goods & Services 1990; Sale of Goods 1893; 2009 Conveyancing Act & The 1965 Succession Act. All for under €25.

Estimated arrival time is 3 days from ordering.

Thought it'd cost a lot more!

z6vm1dobfnca3x · 19-02-2019 01:42PM

Hey,

So based on trends and frequency of topics being examined, I am covering the following for Equity:

Injunctions (particularly quia timet, interlocutory, AP)
Charitable Trusts
Non-Charitable
Cy-press
Rectification
Undue Influence / Recission
Satisfaction
Trusteeship
DMC
Three Certainties
Strong v Bird
Quistclose Trusts

I know the paper is unpredictable etc but I struggle with equity so the above is already a lot for me to get my head around.

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything major, or anything worth leaving out?

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