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irish_major · 01-02-2019 04:00PM

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

LOL, so wrong. Hugh Taylor's stats for last ten years:

2018: ROI 155% +345pts
2017: ROI 146% +282pts
2016: ROI 144% +281pts
2015: ROI 134% +207pts
2014: ROI 132% +199.79pts
2013: ROI 132% +210pts
2012: ROI 131% +222.65pts
2011: ROI 128% +302.64 pts
2010: ROI 123% +324.79 pts
2009: ROI 126% +500.36 pts

Fair enough they are at largely at unobtainable prices but they guy is on another level. Good luck backing "info" if you have no concept of the right price to be betting at.

Came on to post the exact same thing. Hugh Taylor the most consistent in the game.

realdanbreen · 01-02-2019 04:13PM

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

LOL, so wrong. Hugh Taylor's stats for last ten years:

2018: ROI 155% +345pts
2017: ROI 146% +282pts
2016: ROI 144% +281pts
2015: ROI 134% +207pts
2014: ROI 132% +199.79pts
2013: ROI 132% +210pts
2012: ROI 131% +222.65pts
2011: ROI 128% +302.64 pts
2010: ROI 123% +324.79 pts
2009: ROI 126% +500.36 pts

Fair enough they are at largely at unobtainable prices but they guy is on another level. Good luck backing "info" if you have no concept of the right price to be betting at.

When you say 'unobtainable prices' what do mean?

realdanbreen · 01-02-2019 04:17PM

irish_major wrote: »

Came on to post the exact same thing. Hugh Taylor the most consistent in the game.

The vast majority of his tips that come good are horses that the whole country has already fancied and backed.
These guys are paid to appeal to the lazy punter who wouldn't know or even be bothered studying a horses form.

Mostly Harmless · 01-02-2019 04:18PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

When you say 'unobtainable prices' what do mean?

The bookies cut the prices as soon as the tips go up so it's impossible to get on at the advertised prices, he still makes a (smaller) profit at SP though.

HarshOstrich · 01-02-2019 04:38PM

Was on watersmeet there and have to say I’m disgusted with the tactics on lord George, he never had a hope at the pace he went and just looked to purposely ruin watersmeet chances.

HarshOstrich · 01-02-2019 05:45PM

Hugh Taylor blog today

All the horses whose chance I like today have at least one potential drawback to their chance, including COMEONFEELTHEFORCE, who is entitled to go well in the extended 1m1f handicap at Wolverhampton (4.40) providing her wide draw doesn’t count against her.

She seems to have improved for a step up in trip on her last two starts and ran well when fourth here last time, short of room at a crucial stage. It’s hard to know whether she would have finished in front of runner-up Precision Prince with a clear run, but both are drawn high and at the prices I’d rather side with Comeonfeeltheforce, who runs off the same mark here and gives the impression she has a small race like this in her.

Poor man, it’s typical of the form he’s in and maybe to forget about prices of horses and choose who the best horse is.

Shemale · 02-02-2019 02:25PM

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

LOL, so wrong. Hugh Taylor's stats for last ten years:

2018: ROI 155% +345pts
2017: ROI 146% +282pts
2016: ROI 144% +281pts
2015: ROI 134% +207pts
2014: ROI 132% +199.79pts
2013: ROI 132% +210pts
2012: ROI 131% +222.65pts
2011: ROI 128% +302.64 pts
2010: ROI 123% +324.79 pts
2009: ROI 126% +500.36 pts

Fair enough they are at largely at unobtainable prices but they guy is on another level. Good luck backing "info" if you have no concept of the right price to be betting at.

Those returns are on the "prices" he says they are even though they are half that when it goes up on his page, bookies clearly getting heads up before the page is put up.

Not sure he would be so successful if his actual prices were used.

BumperD · 02-02-2019 02:40PM

Shemale wrote: »

Those returns are on the "prices" he says they are even though they are half that when it goes up on his page, bookies clearly getting heads up before the page is put up.

Not sure he would be so successful if his actual prices were used.

The % might be different but the success rate wouldn’t change: )

Mostly Harmless · 02-02-2019 03:02PM

Shemale wrote: »

Those returns are on the "prices" he says they are even though they are half that when it goes up on his page, bookies clearly getting heads up before the page is put up.

Not sure he would be so successful if his actual prices were used.

Prices are cut as soon as it goes live but he still shows a decent profit at Betfair SP, he's the best in the business.

Shemale · 02-02-2019 03:51PM

BumperD wrote: »

The % might be different but the success rate wouldn’t change: )

I know but they are advertising the % and pts as a measure of his success and they wouldn't be next or near these figures based on the available prices when the page is put up.

Shemale · 02-02-2019 04:01PM

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Prices are cut as soon as it goes live but he still shows a decent profit at Betfair SP, he's the best in the business.

They are cut before then, I wrote some code to notify me when his updated page and the prices were almost half everywhere before I got to the race.

I gave up as I read he sends his selections into the office 20 minutes before they go up on his page so someone is notifing the bookies in advance.

No doubting his selections / strike rate but his stats are way off.

Mostly Harmless · 02-02-2019 04:11PM

Shemale wrote: »

They are cut before then, I wrote some code to notify me when his updated page and the prices were almost half everywhere before I got to the race.

I gave up as I read he sends his selections into the office 20 minutes before they go up on his page so someone is notifing the bookies in advance.

No doubting his selections / strike rate but his stats are way off.

Not sure that is correct, why would he be sending his selections to the firms before they go live?
Take Cayirli today, went live at 9.37am and price was cut across the board at 9.38am, but the price was available before Hugh Taylor's tip went live

Shemale · 02-02-2019 04:45PM

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Not sure that is correct, why would he be sending his selections to the firms before they go live?
Take Cayirli today, went live at 9.37am and price was cut across the board at 9.38am, but the price was available before Hugh Taylor's tip went live

It doesn't necessarily have to be him, could be anyone in ATR, I did that for months and could never get the advertised price with the bookie mentioned.

tinpib · 02-02-2019 08:37PM

Hugh fires in a winner advised at 12/1 at the 715pm in Kempton, SP 7/1.

edit: And a second! Although it was advised at 9/4 so slim enough, SP 11/8, in the 745pm.

HarshOstrich · 02-02-2019 09:06PM

tinpib wrote: »

Hugh fires in a winner advised at 12/1 at the 715pm in Kempton, SP 7/1.

edit: And a second! Although it was advised at 9/4 so slim enough, SP 11/8, in the 745pm.

He’s on fire haha
He will go on a little run over the next few days I think.

HarshOstrich · 07-02-2019 11:48PM

It’s been said before but surely tomoro is sharjahs night, poor race.
Some one try put me off.

NaiveMelodies · 08-02-2019 12:02AM

HarshOstrich wrote: »

It’s been said before but surely tomoro is sharjahs night, poor race.
Some one try put me off.

Poitins night I reckon.

longshotvalue · 08-02-2019 01:56AM

HarshOstrich wrote: »

It’s been said before but surely tomoro is sharjahs night, poor race.
Some one try put me off.

I won't put you off I just heard something tonight . Call it very tentative word .

HarshOstrich · 08-02-2019 08:15AM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Poitins night I reckon.

Don’t think he’s running, read somewhere trainer is being cautious after he ran a horse at English meeting the other day.

HarshOstrich · 08-02-2019 08:59AM

aidankkk wrote: »

I won't put you off I just heard something tonight . Call it very tentative word .

Ye the wide draw is a pain but should still get to front, can’t find what catches him, chaparral dream is still a maiden, suppose trump card is the main danger.

Andrew00 · 11-02-2019 01:28PM

Anything for Steepledowns or Hurdlewood Valley today lads

NaiveMelodies · 11-02-2019 01:30PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

Anything for Steepledowns or Hurdlewood Valley today lads

Heard it's best to avoid the Gigginstown horses at Steepledowns anyway.

akelly02 · 11-02-2019 01:40PM

Nothing more embarrasing than seeing grown men curse and blind when his cartoon didnt win

NaiveMelodies · 11-02-2019 01:56PM

akelly02 wrote: »

Nothing more embarrasing than seeing grown men curse and blind when his cartoon didnt win

It's genuinely sad.

Gavin "shels" · 11-02-2019 02:09PM

akelly02 wrote: »

Nothing more embarrasing than seeing grown men curse and blind when his cartoon didnt win

Just waiting for sting to come on and post his winning cartoons at some stage...:pac:

HarshOstrich · 11-02-2019 02:16PM

Anyone see the Japanese virtual horse racing, now that’s entertainment.
YouTube it

Andrew00 · 11-02-2019 03:27PM

I was in the bookies once when some aul lad asked for a print out of the racecard for Sprint Valley. Very sad

akelly02 · 11-02-2019 04:51PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

I was in the bookies once when some aul lad asked for a print out of the racecard for Sprint Valley. Very sad

ITs brutal altogether, it seems to be men in 40s and 50s who do be at it the most..

id be there looking up the form for ascot, and next to me thered be a lad looking at the 'form' for sprint valley, they shouldnt be put up on the board like that

ustari · 11-02-2019 04:56PM

It shouldn't be allowed full stop.

The roulette etc. machines have the built in "win" percentage where it is meant to be a random/similar to the real life version but virtual horse racing is ridiculous.

Andrew00 · 11-02-2019 05:26PM

akelly02 wrote: »

ITs brutal altogether, it seems to be men in 40s and 50s who do be at it the most..

id be there looking up the form for ascot, and next to me thered be a lad looking at the 'form' for sprint valley, they shouldnt be put up on the board like that

exactly I never see any lad in their 20’s or 30’s go near them plastic horses, yet I see men in their 50’s doing 200 quid on the favourite at Portman Park ect and then calling it crooked when it loses

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