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Beep scheme - anyone joining

  • 24-01-2019 10:04pm
    #1
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭


    As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
    Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not


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  • #2
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,202 ✭✭✭tanko


    The details are supposed to be out next week so it'll depend on what they say. It would be €1000 - €1200 a year for me so worth considering anyway.


  • #3
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    €480-€520 before equipment use for me depending on numbers so definitely not doing it. I have learned from bdgp- not worth the hassle.


  • #4
    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,100 ✭✭✭Grueller


    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.


  • #5
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭jfh


    Grueller wrote: »
    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

    Same. I'd be slow to commit to another 5 yrs


  • #6
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    No, they only want another stick to belt us with.


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  • #7
    tractorporn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Grueller wrote: »
    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

    Is it open to suckers and drystock? We're in the process of phasing out the cows here but would be keen enough to join. The brother in law already has a scales that he has said I can use so no money cost only time.


  • #8
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    is there a reference year like the BDGP scheme, that frigged me right up as I'd low numbers the ref year so I actually keep double the cows I got paid for...


  • #9
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    The way I see it, i’m Getting to weigh my cattle for free. And get a few bob thrown in as an added bonus.
    That’s good enough for me.


  • #10
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    I'd doubt it. It's enough of a job here to round everything up for the herd test.


  • #11
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I'm thinking I'll let this one slide. I still haven't been paid the BDGP money, small as it is, so I've lost confidence that anyone actually gives a damn about their side of the agreement.


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  • #12
    Hurling Hereford
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
    Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not

    They can 'Beep' off with their Stupid Scheme


  • #13
    TooOldBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.


  • #14
    Sligoronan
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


    Did anybody register scales yet. I can seem to find how to do so on the ICBF site.


  • #15
    TooOldBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    No I'll be renting the scales.
    Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.


  • #16
    Sami23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Sami23


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.

    Where you price that - what make etc.
    Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself


  • #17
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!! :)


  • #18
    Sami23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Sami23


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    No I'll be renting the scales.
    Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.

    Does anyone know if the calves you are weighing have to be born on your farm or if bought in Cows & Calves qualify too ?

    Also, is there a certain age the calves need to be for weighing ?
    TIA


  • #19
    TooOldBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Where you price that - what make etc.
    Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself


    http://oneillweighing.ie/livestockweighingscales.html


    It was inside in liffey mills, I didn't do any negotiation so I was thinking it could be bought for €1400 inc vat
    With the VAT back and a TAMs grant it would come in at a cost to me of around €700


  • #20
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in


  • #21
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in

    No. Just sucklers


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  • #22
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    How long must you stay in this new scheme?


  • #23
    Sami23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How long must you stay in this new scheme?

    1 year


  • #24
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Sami23 wrote: »
    1 year

    Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?


  • #25
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?

    Its 1 year


  • #26
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,675 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Parishlad wrote: »
    I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!! :)

    Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

    Some info here;
    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=12735

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



  • #27
    Simmental.
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Simmental.


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

    You can sign up on agfood


  • #28
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Signed up one year what the hell can't be that bad,

    Don't plan on buying a scales will get a lad in to weigh them as I don't have the numbers

    I assume I can weigh 2 times in the year, ideally I'd weigh the autumn calves in March and the spring born ones in Oct


  • #29
    leoch
    Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭leoch


    can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??


  • #30
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,675 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    leoch wrote: »
    can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??
    You have to weigh the suckler cows and their calves between the dates of 4th Mar – 1st Nov 2019.
    From this they can measure the milk the cow produces (indirect tru the weight of the calf) and also what weight she is. Milk has always been difficult for ICBF to measure as it gets mudddled up with the amount of meal fed to the weanlings before they are sold.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



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  • #31
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Its debatable if this is an effective means of recording cows milk potential , would the calf not need to be weighed at birth for any level of accuracy ? Its interesting that the drive towards milk will benefit dairy farmers as demand for dairy x heifers will increase as the govt proves their point .


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