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Beep scheme - anyone joining

Mac Taylor

As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not

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tanko

The details are supposed to be out next week so it'll depend on what they say. It would be €1000 - €1200 a year for me so worth considering anyway.

kollegeknight

€480-€520 before equipment use for me depending on numbers so definitely not doing it. I have learned from bdgp- not worth the hassle.

Grueller

€2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

jfh

Grueller wrote: »

€2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

Same. I'd be slow to commit to another 5 yrs

Never wrestle with pigs

No, they only want another stick to belt us with.

tractorporn

Grueller wrote: »

€2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

Is it open to suckers and drystock? We're in the process of phasing out the cows here but would be keen enough to join. The brother in law already has a scales that he has said I can use so no money cost only time.

Dozer1

is there a reference year like the BDGP scheme, that frigged me right up as I'd low numbers the ref year so I actually keep double the cows I got paid for...

bogman_bass

The way I see it, i’m Getting to weigh my cattle for free. And get a few bob thrown in as an added bonus.
That’s good enough for me.

Limestone Cowboy

I'd doubt it. It's enough of a job here to round everything up for the herd test.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I'm thinking I'll let this one slide. I still haven't been paid the BDGP money, small as it is, so I've lost confidence that anyone actually gives a damn about their side of the agreement.

Hurling Hereford

Mac Taylor wrote: »

As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not

They can 'Beep' off with their Stupid Scheme

TooOldBoots

Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.

Sligoronan

Did anybody register scales yet. I can seem to find how to do so on the ICBF site.

TooOldBoots

No I'll be renting the scales.
Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.

Sami23

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.

Where you price that - what make etc.
Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself

Parishlad

I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!!

Sami23

TooOldBoots wrote: »

No I'll be renting the scales.
Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.

Does anyone know if the calves you are weighing have to be born on your farm or if bought in Cows & Calves qualify too ?

Also, is there a certain age the calves need to be for weighing ?
TIA

TooOldBoots

Sami23 wrote: »

Where you price that - what make etc.
Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself

http://oneillweighing.ie/livestockweighingscales.html

It was inside in liffey mills, I didn't do any negotiation so I was thinking it could be bought for €1400 inc vat
With the VAT back and a TAMs grant it would come in at a cost to me of around €700

Keepgrowing

Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in

charolais0153

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in

No. Just sucklers

Mad_maxx

How long must you stay in this new scheme?

Sami23

Mad_maxx wrote: »

How long must you stay in this new scheme?

1 year

Mad_maxx

Sami23 wrote: »

1 year

Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?

charolais0153

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?

Its 1 year

patsy_mccabe

Parishlad wrote: »

I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!!

Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

Some info here;
https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=12735

Simmental.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

You can sign up on agfood

Dozer1

Signed up one year what the hell can't be that bad,

Don't plan on buying a scales will get a lad in to weigh them as I don't have the numbers

I assume I can weigh 2 times in the year, ideally I'd weigh the autumn calves in March and the spring born ones in Oct

leoch

can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??

patsy_mccabe

leoch wrote: »

can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??

You have to weigh the suckler cows and their calves between the dates of 4th Mar – 1st Nov 2019.
From this they can measure the milk the cow produces (indirect tru the weight of the calf) and also what weight she is. Milk has always been difficult for ICBF to measure as it gets mudddled up with the amount of meal fed to the weanlings before they are sold.

coolshannagh28

Its debatable if this is an effective means of recording cows milk potential , would the calf not need to be weighed at birth for any level of accuracy ? Its interesting that the drive towards milk will benefit dairy farmers as demand for dairy x heifers will increase as the govt proves their point .