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N4 - Collooney to Castlebaldwin [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    roadmaster wrote: »
    Id say with site set up etc we could be looking at well after st Patrick's day before any heavy work starts

    Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 HabibiLibnen


    Is there any chance they'd start before the sod turning? As already mentioned, it's just a PR event and I've seen sod turning events for schools etc happening after construction commenced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    tigerboon wrote: »


    Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.

    They got be getting rid of the bushes and hedges before 1st March Aldo I I know technically under planning they can remove them after the1st March but the grennies still would winge. Since you mentioned roadbridge I have seen a few ads for them looking for staff in the west


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

    If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

    Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    marno21 wrote: »
    Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

    If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

    Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.

    As mentioned in my last post i believe there is a clause under planning that you can remove the hedges after the official ban but the optics look bad if you do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    roadmaster wrote: »
    What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?
    I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.
    This is correct. Planned improvements between now and circa 2030 are 2+2 from Collooney-Castlebaldwin, 2+2 around Carrick on Shannon to the Dromod/Roosky bypass, and the entire gap between J17 of the Mullingar bypasss and the Dromod/Roosky bypass which will be an unknown standard.

    The biggest change here will be that the DC now will start north of Carrick-on-Shannon and run the whole way to Dublin instead of starting at Mullingar. That's an extra 73km of dual carriageway which will make a substantial difference. It's likely that the Castlebaldwin-Boyle-Carrick section will be 2+2 retrofitted post 2027 giving continuous Sligo-Dublin DC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,927 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The 2+2 retrofit will be relatively easy due to the sections being new builds from the 1990s/early 2000s and frequently featuring climbing and passing lanes anyway. There's some limited grade separation too, e.g. the junction for Ballinafad. All good road built to a very high standard for the time, and with minimal encroachment over time - that its mostly offline from Boyle to Castlebaldwin and a relatively large chunk north of Carrick helped there in terms of accesses going on to the old N4.

    A few compact GSJs and unfortunately probably a roundabout at each end of the Boyle bypass should solve all the crossing traffic.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭highwaymaniac


    Only €150 million for a major upgrade. Albeit short but that's not expensive. Compare that to €1.4 million for a news room revamp at RTE...

    Also bare in mind that this is the total budget including vat, land,design, supervision etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,751 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

    Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

    Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.

    Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.

    2/3km closest to Collooney is online upgrade


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    marno21 wrote: »
    Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html

    I was in Sligo last week and seen roadbridge pickups driving around. They must be planning on starting very soon


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭hondar


    Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    hondar wrote: »
    Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.


    Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:

    They have custom made Ireland 2040 hard hats and hi vis jackets now. May as well make the most of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭highwaymaniac


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    marno21 wrote: »

    Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Aontachtoir


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

    National infrastructure deserves national attention. ;) That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    National infrastructure deserves national attention. ;) That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.
    N5 Westport-Turlough, N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney in 2019. No sod turning at Dunkettle (yet!) which is a bit surprising.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


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    Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!

    Very cheap, I wonder why some schemes are so incredibly expensive compared to others, even taking into account standard, terrain etc.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    marno21 wrote: »
    Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars

    Great..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,751 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel

    It is parallel; I don’t see why you’d need a stop/go system?


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