N4 - Collooney to Castlebaldwin [open to traffic]

tigerboon

roadmaster wrote: »

Id say with site set up etc we could be looking at well after st Patrick's day before any heavy work starts

Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.

HabibiLibnen

Is there any chance they'd start before the sod turning? As already mentioned, it's just a PR event and I've seen sod turning events for schools etc happening after construction commenced.

roadmaster

tigerboon wrote: »

Time enough for earthworks. Only burning diesel before that.

They got be getting rid of the bushes and hedges before 1st March Aldo I I know technically under planning they can remove them after the1st March but the grennies still would winge. Since you mentioned roadbridge I have seen a few ads for them looking for staff in the west

marno21

No rush or anything

https://twitter.com/sligococo/status/1088165692036337665

marno21

Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.

roadmaster

marno21 wrote: »

Anyone from the area know if the hedges along the route have been cleared?

If not, construction work will start approx 3 days before the hedge cutting ban comes into effect which rules that out for 6 months.

Funny how such a straightforward project can be turned into such a dumpster fire under the eye of this individual.

As mentioned in my last post i believe there is a clause under planning that you can remove the hedges after the official ban but the optics look bad if you do

roadmaster

What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?

BelfastVanMan

roadmaster wrote: »

What is the long term plan for road type from this road to mcneads bridge? Is it going to be a mix of HQDC,Motorway,Type 2 or will they for less confusion for the standard motorist have 1 type only?

I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.

marno21

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

I THINK...It's going to be Type 1 DC from Sligo to Collooney, Type 2 DC Collooney to Castlebaldwin, WS2 Castlebaldwin to Carrick, Type 2 DC Carrick to Longford, Type 1 DC (Inc. Motorway) Longford to Lucan.

This is correct. Planned improvements between now and circa 2030 are 2+2 from Collooney-Castlebaldwin, 2+2 around Carrick on Shannon to the Dromod/Roosky bypass, and the entire gap between J17 of the Mullingar bypasss and the Dromod/Roosky bypass which will be an unknown standard.

The biggest change here will be that the DC now will start north of Carrick-on-Shannon and run the whole way to Dublin instead of starting at Mullingar. That's an extra 73km of dual carriageway which will make a substantial difference. It's likely that the Castlebaldwin-Boyle-Carrick section will be 2+2 retrofitted post 2027 giving continuous Sligo-Dublin DC.

L1011

The 2+2 retrofit will be relatively easy due to the sections being new builds from the 1990s/early 2000s and frequently featuring climbing and passing lanes anyway. There's some limited grade separation too, e.g. the junction for Ballinafad. All good road built to a very high standard for the time, and with minimal encroachment over time - that its mostly offline from Boyle to Castlebaldwin and a relatively large chunk north of Carrick helped there in terms of accesses going on to the old N4.

A few compact GSJs and unfortunately probably a roundabout at each end of the Boyle bypass should solve all the crossing traffic.

marno21

Bingo

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/0129/1026310-n4/

highwaymaniac

HabibiLibnen wrote: »

Only €150 million for a major upgrade. Albeit short but that's not expensive. Compare that to €1.4 million for a news room revamp at RTE...

Also bare in mind that this is the total budget including vat, land,design, supervision etc.

veryangryman

Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.

BelfastVanMan

veryangryman wrote: »

Delighted for Sligo. Those crosses are an awful sight (though a reminder if how dangerous) on the existing stretch.

Downside of course is 2 years of Stop/Go systems and the likes i guess.

Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.

marno21

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

Shouldn't be too bad....all offline bar the two tie-ins.

2/3km closest to Collooney is online upgrade

marno21

Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html

roadmaster

marno21 wrote: »

Confirmation that this project will start this month and that the contract has been awarded to Roadbridge

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/road-saw-almost-30-deaths-in-30-years-37766526.html

I was in Sligo last week and seen roadbridge pickups driving around. They must be planning on starting very soon

marno21

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1098931496491118593

Sod turning today also in Sligo as per post below

https://www.oceanfm.ie/2019/02/22/sod-officially-turned-on-new-n4-stretch-by-taoiseach-leo-varadkar/

hondar

Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.

marno21

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/211946

Tender award to Roadbridge in full.

JupiterKid

hondar wrote: »

Official sod turning today.plant has been in there working for the last 2 weeks.

Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:

marno21

JupiterKid wrote: »

Glad to hear this much delayed and urgently needed scheme has finally started. But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

Looks like Leo would turn out for the opening of a pack of crisps...:rolleyes:

They have custom made Ireland 2040 hard hats and hi vis jackets now. May as well make the most of them

highwaymaniac

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marno21 wrote: »

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/211946

Tender award to Roadbridge in full.

Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!

Aontachtoir

JupiterKid wrote: »

But why on Earth did Leo V show up for the sod turning? Wasn’t Shane Ross’s présence enough?

National infrastructure deserves national attention. That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.

marno21

Aontachtoir wrote: »

National infrastructure deserves national attention. That and there isn't going to be many other sod turnings for the next few years.

N5 Westport-Turlough, N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney in 2019. No sod turning at Dunkettle (yet!) which is a bit surprising.

spacetweek

highwaymaniac wrote: »

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Lowest was €70M highest nearly €98M that's some spread and only 4 tenders received!

Very cheap, I wonder why some schemes are so incredibly expensive compared to others, even taking into account standard, terrain etc.

marno21

Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars

shanec1928

marno21 wrote: »

Stop go system in place along here until 2021 as per AA Roadwatch. Looks like it will be a long 2 years for any N4 regulars

Great..

veryangryman

On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel

spacetweek

veryangryman wrote: »

On the mainline? Ah ffs i thought road was to be parallel

It is parallel; I don’t see why you’d need a stop/go system?