Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

Eod100 · 22-01-2019 10:12AM

phog wrote: »

Iirc, the IRFU/Munster have agreed that any home SF in the H/Cup will be played int he Aviva - the only reason why another venue might be an option would be if Leinster and ourselves were to get a home SF and the organisers/TV wanted the two matches played on the same day.

That makes sense. Think the GAA are open to idea but not sure IRFU would be keen on paying rent to then for PUC.

Poorside · 22-01-2019 10:23AM

Eod100 wrote: »

That makes sense. Think the GAA are open to idea but not sure IRFU would be keen on paying rent to then for PUC.

What’s the capacity of PUC?
Just checked, it’s lower than the Aviva so that wouldn’t make any kind of financial sense, not going to happen.

Squidgy Black · 22-01-2019 10:28AM

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EPRC won't want to deal with any red tape around getting a venue, they'll go for the easier option every single time.

BoardAtWork · 22-01-2019 10:42AM

Poorside wrote: »

What’s the capacity of PUC?
Just checked, it’s lower than the Aviva so that wouldn’t make any kind of financial sense, not going to happen.

It keeps money in the province and local economy.

Mickiemcfist · 22-01-2019 10:53AM

BoardAtWork wrote: »

It keeps money in the province and local economy.

*Doesn't make any financial sense to ERC or IRFU

Former Former · 22-01-2019 11:25AM

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BoardAtWork wrote: »

It keeps money in the province and local economy.

It takes money out of Munster Rugby.

Poorside · 22-01-2019 11:40AM

BoardAtWork wrote: »

It keeps money in the province and local economy.

You’re talking about an organisation that moved to Switzerland, do you think they’ll worry about the pubs and hotels in Cork?

22-01-2019 11:42AM

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There is more chance of me being called upto the Irish squad, than PUC being used for rugby, well in the near future anyway

phog · 22-01-2019 11:52AM

BoardAtWork wrote: »

It keeps money in the province and local economy.

100% true but it will not be considered should we get a home SF.

The IRFU have a fine stadium in Dublin why would they want to show off a GAA stadium if their own is lying idle.

case885 · 22-01-2019 12:03PM

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phog wrote:

The IRFU have a fine stadium in Dublin why would they want to show off a GAA stadium if their own is lying idle.

The IRFU don't make the decision, It doesn't make any sense for the eprc playing in a smaller stadium with less corporate facilities though so it's never going to happen.
I'd imagine they would look into the financial benefits of playing a semi final in croke park if Munster and Leinster were playing, I doubt they care it's a gaa stadium.

Eod100 · 22-01-2019 12:03PM

phog wrote: »

100% true but it will not be considered should we get a home SF.

The IRFU have a fine stadium in Dublin why would they want to show off a GAA stadium if their own is lying idle.

Yeah I was thinking same but thought Quinlan might have got some new information on it. I know Garret Fitzgerald previously expressed interest in hosting it and PUC's board were open to it. But as you say financially and logistically it probably doesn't make much sense.

phog · 22-01-2019 12:31PM

case885 wrote: »

The IRFU don't make the decision, It doesn't make any sense for the eprc playing in a smaller stadium with less corporate facilities though so it's never going to happen.
I'd imagine they would look into the financial benefits of playing a semi final in croke park if Munster and Leinster were playing, I doubt they care it's a gaa stadium.

I know the IRFU don't actually make the decision I also know the ERC won't make a decision without discussing it with the relevant Union. The Unions make up the ERC.

Former Former · 22-01-2019 12:33PM

John Hayes Ligind

case885 wrote: »

The IRFU don't make the decision, It doesn't make any sense for the eprc playing in a smaller stadium with less corporate facilities though so it's never going to happen.
I'd imagine they would look into the financial benefits of playing a semi final in croke park if Munster and Leinster were playing, I doubt they care it's a gaa stadium.

No, they wouldn't.

IRFU are shareholders in EPCR and have two directors on the board.

This is all bollocks. If Alan Quinlan thinks this is a possibility, then he's absolutely clueless.

Sabre0001 · 22-01-2019 12:34PM

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While I would love a home semi-final that's not in the Aviva, I don't think it will happen unfortunately.

troyzer · 22-01-2019 12:40PM

Sabre0001 wrote: »

While I would love a home semi-final that's not in the Aviva, I don't think it will happen unfortunately.

Think of a double header weekend in Lansdowne though.

It would be fantastic for the sport.

case885 · 22-01-2019 12:49PM

John Hayes Ligind

Former Former wrote:

No, they wouldn't.

The EPCR chairman said they would certainly consider it if Munster and Leinster played each other in the semi finals.

BoardAtWork · 22-01-2019 12:49PM

phog wrote: »

100% true but it will not be considered should we get a home SF.

The IRFU have a fine stadium in Dublin why would they want to show off a GAA stadium if their own is lying idle.

It's definitely not going to happen, but it's a pity. It would be great if Munster were able to hold a 50k attendance game in the province. It would be a massive boost to the economy.

Eod100 · 22-01-2019 01:01PM

troyzer wrote: »

Think of a double header weekend in Lansdowne though.

It would be fantastic for the sport.

Presume pitch would hold up for 2 matches a day apart? Know there's been a turnaround of a few days between rugby match and football or vice versa in past so probably not major issue. All speculation really, I guess cos there may not be any home sf here let alone 2 sure.

troyzer · 22-01-2019 01:02PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Presume pitch would hold up for 2 matches a day apart? Know there's been a turnaround of a few days between rugby match and football or vice versa in past so probably not major issue. All speculation really, I guess cos there may not be any home sf here let alone 2 sure.

Well Leinster would play first obviously. It's not like Munster could take advantage of a fast pitch anyway.

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Cookiemunster · 22-01-2019 01:39PM

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Eod100 wrote: »

Presume pitch would hold up for 2 matches a day apart? Know there's been a turnaround of a few days between rugby match and football or vice versa in past so probably not major issue. All speculation really, I guess cos there may not be any home sf here let alone 2 sure.

Last season Ireland played Moldova the night before Leinster V Munster. There were only 18 hours between the kick offs. So two matches in two days in the same sport would be fine.

who_me · 22-01-2019 01:39PM

Kirk Van Houten wrote: »

Would the IRFU throw away free money? They get rent if the Aviva is used. Gate money goes to ERC. Also ERC may prefer the corporate facilities and all covered seating option.

Conversely, how much money is a 45K+ game worth to the local economy? It would be nice if that was kept in Munster surely? Plus Cork is likely significantly cheaper for accommodation for fans?

The Lost Sheep · 22-01-2019 01:43PM

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Eod100 wrote: »

Presume pitch would hold up for 2 matches a day apart? Know there's been a turnaround of a few days between rugby match and football or vice versa in past so probably not major issue. All speculation really, I guess cos there may not be any home sf here let alone 2 sure.

Stadium has regularly hosted matches two days in a row. Not an issue at all.

who_me wrote: »

Conversely, how much money is a 45K+ game worth to the local economy? It would be nice if that was kept in Munster surely? Plus Cork is likely significantly cheaper for accommodation for fans?

A few million potentially if there is significant number visiting fans
this is what they say internationals would be worth and a Munster game wont be same but still significant
https://www.irishsport.ie/new-report-shows-value-of-big-events-to-irish-economy-ireland-v-england-rugby-worth-e21-3m/

Cookiemunster · 22-01-2019 01:46PM

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who_me wrote: »

Conversely, how much money is a 45K+ game worth to the local economy? It would be nice if that was kept in Munster surely? Plus Cork is likely significantly cheaper for accommodation for fans?

And that, as has been explained multiple times already on this thread, had got zero relevance to the EPCR. They pick the stadium to suit themselves. And as the IRFU have a say on the EPCR board, the money is going to stay in rugby. ie the Aviva Stadium.

troyzer · 22-01-2019 01:47PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Stadium has regularly hosted matches two days in a row. Not an issue at all.

A few million potentially if there is significant number visiting fans
this is what they say internationals would be worth and a Munster game wont be same but still significant
https://www.irishsport.ie/new-report-shows-value-of-big-events-to-irish-economy-ireland-v-england-rugby-worth-e21-3m/

The WRU have judgement day every year. Two games back to back on the same day. A double header over the weekend in Lansdowne would have the benefit of a day's rehab with the groundskeepers.

Eod100 · 22-01-2019 02:15PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Stadium has regularly hosted matches two days in a row. Not an issue at all.

Don't think there's been many rugby games hosted 2 days in a row there? But if it can handle it then yeah guess it's not an issue, was curious

Shefwedfan · 22-01-2019 02:19PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Don't think there's been many rugby games hosted 2 days in a row there? But if it can handle it then yeah guess it's not an issue, was curious

For the Welsh derby match's did they not play them on the same day in Cardiff for a few years in a row?

who_me · 22-01-2019 02:24PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

And that, as has been explained multiple times already on this thread, had got zero relevance to the EPCR. They pick the stadium to suit themselves. And as the IRFU have a say on the EPCR board, the money is going to stay in rugby. ie the Aviva Stadium.

Sure.. I'm just arguing wouldn't it be nice if a Munster game was more convenient for Munster fans to travel to, and generated revenue for local(er) businesses.

I don't expect it to happen either.

Eod100 · 22-01-2019 03:04PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

For the Welsh derby match's did they not play them on the same day in Cardiff for a few years in a row?

Possibly, just wasn't sure it had happened in Aviva before. But yeah shouldn't be different form Cardiff then

phog · 22-01-2019 04:36PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Possibly, just wasn't sure it had happened in Aviva before. But yeah shouldn't be different form Cardiff then

Cardiff can close the roof from the elements which might help them host two games there on the same day.

troyzer · 22-01-2019 04:39PM

phog wrote: »

Eod100 wrote: »

Possibly, just wasn't sure it had happened in Aviva before. But yeah shouldn't be different form Cardiff then

Cardiff can close the roof from the elements which might help them host two games there on the same day.

Cardiff also has a hybrid pitch, Lansdowne is all natural

Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

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