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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Still sliding..tempted to get in this week at around the 10.20 mark. No deal brexit looking likely, so wiol it dip in the 9s??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    I'll buy a few more if it drops below 10


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    retalivity wrote: »
    Still sliding..tempted to get in this week at around the 10.20 mark. No deal brexit looking likely, so wiol it dip in the 9s??

    Spotted Ryanair dipping again this morning, it is very tempting to have a little nibble :pac: I would say a no-deal Brexit is looking more UNLIKELY and there is going to be a mighty bounce in the SP when some kind of a fudge deal is announced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,086 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    No way is it priced in.

    Stock will go under 10 if there is no deal. Its an expensive stock.

    By what criteria?

    I am curious what measure you are using.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,086 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Spotted Ryanair dipping again this morning, it is very tempting to have a little nibble

    Yes, I am tempted.............


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    I'm going to buy more, mainly to try and bring my break even point down. I think €19 was too high for the stock and I think €10.16 (what it was when I just checked) is too low. I'd imagine when an open skies agreement with the EU has been reached it'll bounce back. Just when to buy is the question. Will it dip below €10 if the deal is rejected tonight.

    I'm hoping for somewhere in between the above values. around €15-16.

    Not immediately, but over the next couple of years.

    Mad to think that nearly 50% of the value has been wiped out in the last year and a half (was €19.42 in August 2017).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Ryanair now at €10


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Back up a little. My order is in for €9.99 and yet to be filled.
    Its like buying one of their flights!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,086 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I am very tempted, but I am nervous also.

    I already own shares bought at under 4.00 years ago.

    I believe in the company, I know all their advantages:

    cheap debt, their bonds were issued at 1.125% and 1.75% I think
    huge orders of aircraft = bulk buying discounts
    single type of plane = low maintenance costs
    low costs overall
    wide profit margins

    I realise their labour costs are rising now due to the IR/HR issues, but they still have a cost advantage.

    I am nervous..........


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Ryanair now at €10

    Got a chunk myself at €10 today. I am going to stick my head on the block here and predict that regardless of what happens in Westminister tonight, Ryanair SP takes off (bad deliberate pun) tomorrow :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ste


    Market cap in the €12bn range & forecasting profits north of €1bil

    Balance sheet looks good

    I just can't see how this price is right but I'm not brave enough to put any more cash in.
    I'm down about 20% & will leave ride for a few years


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭adam88


    Where could you buy them rite now ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭Doodee


    adam88 wrote: »
    Where could you buy them rite now ??

    Right now you could buy them using Degiro


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Got a chunk myself at €10 today. I am going to stick my head on the block here and predict that regardless of what happens in Westminister tonight, Ryanair SP takes off (bad deliberate pun) tomorrow :p

    Well not exactly a rocket from the crypt....but up 1.5% nonetheless, soo my prediction was correct :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Do you guys have money sitting in Degiro or whatever, ready to pounce? Or transfer when you see a good price?

    I can't bring myself to use Trustly so I've to wait a couple of days for my money to transfer. Still not there yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    If your funds haven't hit your DeGiro account within 3 working days, contact support. I suggest you ring them rather than email.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    If your funds haven't hit your DeGiro account within 3 working days, contact support. I suggest you ring them rather than email.

    It's there now. bought more but missed 10.00. Ended up paying 10.19.

    Never seem to get the low :mad:

    But I know it might drop again. I hate this game :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭beaner92


    Wheety wrote: »
    It's there now. bought more but missed 10.00. Ended up paying 10.19.

    Never seem to get the low :mad:

    But I know it might drop again. I hate this game :D


    Im calling 7.70


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Can see this sliding to 9 EUR alright over the next few days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Aaaaaand im in


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    beaner92 wrote: »
    Im calling 7.70

    Yeah, I'll set my next buy at a lower price and just leave it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭beaner92


    Wheety wrote: »
    Yeah, I'll set my next buy at a lower price and just leave it.

    \\why not just short? or buy put options?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    beaner92 wrote: »
    \\why not just short? or buy put options?

    Not sure if you can do that on Degiro. too risky for me anyway. I'm not a big time investor. Just want to bring my break even point down on Ryanair and then hold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Can see this sliding to 9 EUR alright over the next few days.

    Downgrade for Easyjet (Ryanairs' closest contemporary) today from Barclays soo Ryanair will be softer too.

    Maybe fall into the €9's today....not going to ever go to €7.70 Beaner (Where did you even pull that number from??).

    Michael O'Leary resigning will hit the share price for a few % when its annouced, but not 23% and besides thats not even being whispered about yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Lowers full year guidance this morning. Will surely dip under 10 today, though might rebound.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    Just got in at 9.86 this morning to bring my BEP down considerably.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Dropped to as low as 9.55.

    I've put in a buy order at 9.50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    In at 9.85, BEP is now just over €11


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭scheister


    Gone in @10 so BEP is 12.50


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭adam88


    scheister wrote: »
    Gone in @10 so BEP is 12.50

    I dont want to clog up this thread but what is the importance of the break even point. Have some of ye bought shares when they were very expensive. Is there any where ye could direct me to get a quick fire course in this share business. I’ve 2 k that I’m willing and able to lose if things go wrong. Would like to experience the trill of it for a bit lol.


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