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Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

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    #3932
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    end of the road wrote: »
    as i see it, there was no resisting as it was a private security company carrying out the eviction. what happened would only be resisting if it was the gardai carrying out the eviction. if a hired goon manhandles someone then they are entitled to resist that as they are all civilians. only if one resists the gardai arresting them is there a problem.

    If your vision is that bad you need a trip to Specsavers. It was a Court Messenger who was executing a lawful warrant, assisted by security company personnel who, in that role, are bailiffs. The idiots obstructing the repossession deserved all they got and more. It was done as well as it could have been, given the obstruction, a cut knee and a nosebleed is nothing.


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    #3933
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    ...............

    The idiots obstructing the repossession deserved all they got and more. ............

    Any chance they were powered by this lot somehow ?



    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057944886/







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    #3934
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    If your vision is that bad you need a trip to Specsavers. It was a Court Messenger who was executing a lawful warrant, assisted by security company personnel who, in that role, are bailiffs. The idiots obstructing the repossession deserved all they got and more. It was done as well as it could have been, given the obstruction, a cut knee and a nosebleed is nothing.

    the court messenger was able to carry out the warrent and was not from what i saw in the video obstructed. actually i'm unsure if it has been confirmed that a security company can automatically be declared bailiffs just by assisting the sheriff. even if they could it doesn't matter to me, i still believe that people supposibly resisting them isn't a problem compared to resisting the gardai carrying out it's duties. those supposibly obstructing did not deserve all they got as what i believe to be hired mersinaries doing whatever is not the same as the gards manhandling or using force when carrying out it's duties.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #3935
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    end of the road wrote: »
    the court messenger was able to carry out the warrent and was not from what i saw in the video obstructed. actually i'm unsure if it has been confirmed that a security company can automatically be declared bailiffs just by assisting the sheriff. even if they could it doesn't matter to me, i still believe that people supposibly resisting them isn't a problem compared to resisting the gardai carrying out it's duties. those supposibly obstructing did not deserve all they got as what i believe to be hired mersinaries doing whatever is not the same as the gards manhandling or using force when carrying out it's duties.

    You don’t strike me as someone overburdened with too much education.


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    #3936
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    How very interesting....

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-man-quietly-charged-over-attack-1.3755362

    Charged with burglary. Bailed. Back in court next Friday


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    #3937
    keavebm
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭keavebm


    JCJCJC wrote:
    If your vision is that bad you need a trip to Specsavers. It was a Court Messenger who was executing a lawful warrant, assisted by security company personnel who, in that role, are bailiffs. The idiots obstructing the repossession deserved all they got and more. It was done as well as it could have been, given the obstruction, a cut knee and a nosebleed is nothing.


    You mean the baliffs deserved all they got!****in scumbags. **** off back to the north and do their evictions. They know now they aint welcome in the republic. The northerners think they can come down here with there hard men and there wont be any consequences? That day is long gone. Them hard lads from the north wont be down anytime soon


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    #3938
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    How very interesting....

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-man-quietly-charged-over-attack-1.3755362

    Charged with burglary. Bailed. Back in court next Friday

    Cops just making sure the charges stick- not like Jobstown.


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    #3939
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    keavebm wrote: »
    You mean the baliffs deserved all they got!****in scumbags. **** off back to the north and do their evictions. They know now they aint welcome in the republic. The northerners think they can come down here with there hard men and there wont be any consequences? That day is long gone. Them hard lads from the north wont be down anytime soon

    Yes because vigilante justice is always the answer and we should let everyone take the law into their own hands:rolleyes:


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    #3940
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Have any names being released yet of those charged?


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    #3941
    blueythebear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    end of the road wrote: »
    the court messenger was able to carry out the warrent and was not from what i saw in the video obstructed. actually i'm unsure if it has been confirmed that a security company can automatically be declared bailiffs just by assisting the sheriff. even if they could it doesn't matter to me, i still believe that people supposibly resisting them isn't a problem compared to resisting the gardai carrying out it's duties. those supposibly obstructing did not deserve all they got as what i believe to be hired mersinaries doing whatever is not the same as the gards manhandling or using force when carrying out it's duties.

    The video clearly shows people on the property, who are not the owners and refusing to leave...guess what happens if the gardai removed these people? The facebook morons would be out in force screaming about the gardai being private security for the banks.


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    #3942
    blueythebear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    keavebm wrote: »
    You mean the baliffs deserved all they got!****in scumbags. **** off back to the north and do their evictions. They know now they aint welcome in the republic. The northerners think they can come down here with there hard men and there wont be any consequences? That day is long gone. Them hard lads from the north wont be down anytime soon


    If you have to evict someone because they refuse to pay, or engage....Then you need security guards. When no company in Ireland will do this, you logically go to the next nearest jurisdiction.

    It's unfortunate that some people are still hung up about famine time evictions, particularly because they happened several generations ago. The historical significance is not lost on me but it makes no difference. The eviction had to happen in this case


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    #3943
    Mrs cockett
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭Mrs cockett


    But the fact remains the McGanns are still in the house, And where are the next security guards going to come from to evict them


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    #3944
    blueythebear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    Mrs cockett wrote: »
    But the fact remains the McGanns are still in the house, And where are the next security guards going to come from to evict them


    The next security guards will be a gang of gardai executing attachment and committal orders from the high court, arresting anyone in the property


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    #3945
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The knee injury?

    Must have taken at least 2 days to heal, not seen a booboo like that since my son fell off his skateboard back in 04

    He got a plaster at the doctor's and a sticker saying 'I was a brave boy at the doctor today' :)


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    #3946
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    You don’t strike me as someone overburdened with too much education.

    A very succinct summation of eotr's ramblings on all these types of threads, frankly. Kudos.


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    #3947
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    blueythebear wrote: »
    The video clearly shows people on the property, who are not the owners and refusing to leave...guess what happens if the gardai removed these people? The facebook morons would be out in force screaming about the gardai being private security for the banks.


    so be it, i can live with it. it's preferable to the current situation.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #3948
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mrs cockett wrote: »
    But the fact remains the McGanns are still in the house, And where are the next security guards going to come from to evict them

    Where’s Ireland’s Granny (Anna Kavanagh) when you need her?


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    #3949
    Questioning sacred Cows
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Questioning sacred Cows


    The problem was the way in which that farming family in Strokestown were dealt with. I think this has started off a movement to stop people being forced off their land or out of their house.

    The little people are fighting back.


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    #3950
    aido79
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 5,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭aido79


    blueythebear wrote: »
    That is not shown in the video at all. If you want to say the time on the video that we see any of the protesters getting punched I'll happily accede that I'm wrong. But I have seen the video and there are no punches thrown other than some half asset ones by one of the protestors

    I'm just waiting for someone to come along saying that Leo editted the video.


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    #3951
    aido79
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 5,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭aido79


    fullstop wrote: »
    A very succinct summation of eotr's ramblings on all these types of threads, frankly. Kudos.

    THANKS!!


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    #3952
    aido79
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 5,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭aido79


    Questioning sacred Cows wrote: »
    The problem was the way in which that farming family in Strokestown were dealt with. I think this has started off a movement to stop people being forced off their land or out of their house.

    The little people are fighting back.

    It wasn't their land or house..they refused to make the payments on it.


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    #3953
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    blueythebear wrote: »
    The next security guards will be a gang of gardai executing attachment and committal orders from the high court, arresting anyone in the property


    You know your law...


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    #3954
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Questioning sacred Cows wrote: »
    The problem was the way in which that farming family in Strokestown were dealt with. I think this has started off a movement to stop people being forced off their land or out of their house.

    The little people are fighting back.

    What!

    After 8 years negotiations, high court orders, dealings with the Revenue, !!

    You can not be serious.


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    #3955
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    Questioning sacred Cows wrote: »
    The problem was the way in which that farming family in Strokestown were dealt with. I think this has started off a movement to stop people being forced off their land or out of their house.

    The little people are fighting back.

    The key word there is ‘farming’. Do you think farmers and landowners shouldn’t pay their way in Irish society? Are you equally as sympathetic to the travelers who are also being evicted from lands in Dublin for illegal occupation?

    Little people are the PAYE taxpayers who work every day to subsidize your grants, Green diesel, cheap road tax and single farm payment, or “entitlements” as they’re now known. They haven’t time or energy to fight anyone, they’re too busy being nett contributors to society.


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    #3956
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where’s Ireland’s Granny (Anna Kavanagh) when you need her?

    Waiting for the next full moon, to howl up at it. She seems to be the blithering eejit who started the myth that the occupiers were pulled out by the ears.


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    #3957
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    The key word there is ‘farming’. Do you think farmers and landowners shouldn’t pay their way in Irish society? Are you equally as sympathetic to the travelers who are also being evicted from lands in Dublin for illegal occupation?

    Little people are the PAYE taxpayers who work every day to subsidize your grants, Green diesel, cheap road tax and single farm payment, or “entitlements” as they’re now known. They haven’t time or energy to fight anyone, they’re too busy being nett contributors to society.

    Excellent post and well put, time the real ‘little people’ who are as you describe them, stood up to flood of propaganda being shunted out by the various ‘Solidarity’ groups who clog Twitter and other platforms with their ‘agendas’.

    Watch them go four square behind the nurses pay dispute, which will inevitably have knock on claims from those already well paid.Watch them on every picket line ‘showing solidarity’ on sure fire public sympathy causes.

    Of course they blithely ignore the fact that the more taxpayers money going to Public Service,to people already well paid, will mean less money available for housing and other pressing issues.

    The ‘little people’ are waking up and seeing what’s happening.

    The real ‘little people’ haven’t time or energy to be wearing out shoes and bullhorn batteries, they reserve their energy for the ballot box which is why these PBPS folk barely get 1%.


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    #3958
    Fiery mutant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Questioning sacred Cows wrote: »

    The little people.

    Well maybe when you’s start behaving like grown ups, you can come join the big people.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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    #3959
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Questioning sacred Cows wrote: »
    The problem was the way in which that farming family in Strokestown were dealt with. I think this has started off a movement to stop people being forced off their land or out of their house.

    The little people are fighting back.

    I have a genuine question for you. If it wasn't possible to evict someone, why would anyone bother paying back a mortgage?


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    #3960
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,241 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    pablo128 wrote: »
    I have a genuine question for you. If it wasn't possible to evict someone, why would anyone bother paying back a mortgage?

    Why would a bank bother lending it in the first place?

    If the credit system collapses this country will be up **** creek without a paddle. Not that the usual populist imbeciles care.

    Those who do pay their bills in this country are already funding the feckless and reckless to the tunes of millions of euros a year - it's a fcuking joke that you have people defending this bullsh;ttery..


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    #3961
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,156 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    A lot of the people defending this are also on the take, take, take. Likely not taxpayers, sponging off the state and think that money grows on trees.

    And that this is all OK cos someone else can pay for it.

    They generally are fairly thick people with no concept how the world works.


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