Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

gandalf

mgn wrote: »

Out of curiosity,How did you describe the water protesters when the were out in full force.

Well I went on the early marches but stayed away once the Eirigi and PBP loons took control. BTW people not paying won that battle not the marches.

PuppyMcPupFace

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Spongers.

You were kinder than I so!

anewme

Ahh come on...that singing is just comedy gold! It's brilliant.

expectationlost

whisky_galore wrote: »

Facebook and Twitter doesn't light up...

In other words they're not there at all.

they well might be but they don't have the resources to string it out like richer people so it doesn't end up in the news, i just gave an example https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108962259&postcount=3812

blackwhite

mgn wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/irelands-war-of-independence-the-chilling-story-of-the-black-and-tans-5336022.html

Have a read of this article from another Independent newspaper.
You might learn something.

The Black and Tans were scum. Everyone knows that.

What exactly does that have to do with Sinn Fein protecting paedos, and sending them to work with youth groups in the south?

In terms of whataboutery, that’s probably the most pathetic attempt we’ve ever seen on here - trumping the worst efforts of the most diehard shinnerbots. Quite the achievement really.


Unless of course you’re trying to say Sinn Feins contempt for the people of the Republic by sheltering paedos is on a par with the Black and Tans?

mgn

blackwhite wrote: »

The Black and Tans were scum. Everyone knows that.

What exactly does that have to do with Sinn Fein protecting paedos, and sending them to work with youth groups in the south?

In terms of whataboutery, that’s probably the most pathetic attempt we’ve ever seen on here - trumping the worst efforts of the most diehard shinnerbots. Quite the achievement really.


Unless of course you’re trying to say Sinn Feins contempt for the people of the Republic by sheltering paedos is on a par with the Black and Tans?

I posted that article in response to another article posted that has nothing to do with this thread.
As for being a Sinn Fein supporter.I lived in London in the 80's and 90's when the IRA were bombing the place.I seen first hand the devastation and the abuse Irish people suffered because of them.So don't start that s*it with someone you nothing about.

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

Does that mean someone will be throwing petrol bombs through the windows in Parnell Square?

no, it just means wheeliebin30 is having a gossip. nothing new there then

Timberrrrrrrr

maccored wrote: »

no, it just means wheeliebin30 is having a gossip. nothing new there then

Are you saying that what he posted was untrue?

Quite a reasonable assessment about the whole "To what extent does the difficulty in evicting people lead to higher mortgage interest rates" here:

Is Ireland’s low rate of repossession the reason mortgage rates are so high?

... 3. The bottom line
The bottom line is that non-performing loans are one of the key factors in keeping mortgage rates here high by international standards. But they are not the only one.

The banks have nudged rates lower, but should have moved more rapidly now that they are generally back in profits, even if historic parts of their mortgage books remain problematic.

But the lack of new entrants and the persistence of long-term arrears are clear pointers to ongoing problems in our mortgage market. This, too, is a factor in keeping interest rates in Ireland higher, through the various channels we saw above – higher capital, higher costs and less competition.

Rather than looking at right and wrong here, the important thing for policy is that the trade-off is recognised.

Our politics, our regulations, and our legal system and courts has made it more difficult for banks to repossess than is the case in many international markets, or even north of the Border or in the UK, a jurisdiction which is legally quite similar to Ireland.

This probably reflects a wider societal sympathy for those in trouble with their mortgages, particularly given the extent of the crisis. Our housing crisis, and the lack of social housing in particular, has reinforced this view.

If we want to continue this approach then mortgage rates are always going to be a bit higher in Ireland. Meanwhile, there are two other policy implications. One is to push the banks to provide, where possible, other solutions short of repossession, including mortgage-to-rent schemes.

They have been remarkably slow to do this since the crisis. And to recognise that some of these solutions require some level of public subsidy.

The other is to decide where to draw the line on repossessions. Mortgages are cheaper than other loans precisely because they are secured lending.

If relatively large numbers of people can decide not to pay and yet not face repossession then the whole mortgage system breaks down. Yet it is clearly right that in the case of the family home, everything possible is done to avoid a repossession.

The sobering fact is 10 years after the crisis, we still have a large group of households in very long-term arrears and it is far from clear how these cases will be resolved.

Personally, I'd be inclined to think it's very unfair to people who must go out and work for their mortgage if somebody can stay somewhere and simply not pay for it. This is particularly so when the person in question has a record of tax evasion. There are far, far too many of these parasitic buckos in Irish society. In this case justice is actually served by removing the person in question from what is, in fact, somebody else's property. On the other hand, there's a definite, unmistakable rightwing whiff of the spirit of landlordism and land agents off some of the people in this thread who are saying something similar so I'm conflicted.

gandalf

What I laugh about is how people have to be labelled right wing or left wing when they comment on a thread like this or on any social issue. Personally I have certain ideas and values that would be socialist in nature and at the same time I'd have other values that would be conservative. It's a very lazy mind that tries to classify people into neat little pigeon holes. It's too black and white for me.

In this case it is very clear that the individual in question didn't bother his ass to pay back what he owed. His behaviour should be offensive to left leaning and right leaning people equally.

Sycamore Tree

gandalf wrote: »

What I laugh about is how people have to be labelled right wing or left wing when they comment on a thread like this or on any social issue. Personally I have certain ideas and values that would be socialist in nature and at the same time I'd have other values that would be conservative. It's a very lazy mind that tries to classify people into neat little pigeon holes. It's too black and white for me.

In this case it is very clear that the individual in question didn't bother his ass to pay back what he owed. His behaviour should be offensive to left leaning and right leaning people equally.

Commie!

Ash.J.Williams

Seeing what happened with the security would instantly make me take the side of the defaulter but in reality how do you deal with this situation? Eviction is the only way I guess,?

anewme

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Seeing what happened with the security would instantly make me take the side of the defaulter but in reality how do you deal with this situation? Eviction is the only way I guess,?

Why would it make you take the side of the defaulter?

people not paying for over 10 years rolling around on the ground looking for notice.

They are taking ppl for Fools. Not sure why anyone with a bit of cop on would feel sorry for them in any way.

There's ppl who fall on hard times a d then there's complete piss takers.

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

Quite a reasonable assessment about the whole "To what extent does the difficulty in evicting people lead to higher mortgage interest rates" here:

Is Ireland’s low rate of repossession the reason mortgage rates are so high?




Personally, I'd be inclined to think it's very unfair to people who must go out and work for their mortgage if somebody can stay somewhere and simply not pay for it. This is particularly so when the person in question has a record of tax evasion. There are far, far too many of these parasitic buckos in Irish society. In this case justice is actually served by removing the person in question from what is, in fact, somebody else's property. On the other hand, there's a definite, unmistakable rightwing whiff of the spirit of landlordism and land agents off some of the people in this thread who are saying something similar so I'm conflicted.

Interesting.

If banks were behaving rationally, they might start to offer lower mortgage rates to investors with some capital equity than to new home buyers, as the ability to repay, the protection against falls in value and the ability to repossess in case of default would be better in the case of the investors, making them lesser risk.

BBFAN

anewme wrote: »

Why would it make you take the side of the defaulter?

people not paying for over 10 years rolling around on the ground looking for notice.

They are taking ppl for Fools. Not sure why anyone with a bit of cop on would feel sorry for them in any way.

There's ppl who fall on hard times a d then there's complete piss takers.

Yes but not everyone who seen that video for the first time knew anything of this mans history so it does make sense to feel sorry for him if you didn't know.

Edgware

BBFAN wrote: »

Yes but not everyone who seen that video for the first time knew anything of this mans history so it does make sense to feel sorry for him if you didn't know.

If you have no cop onto realise theres more to this story.

namloc1980

YOUR HOME IS AT RISK IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP PAYMENTS ON A MORTGAGE OR ANY LOAN SECURED ON IT.

This is the fundamental component of a mortgage and the main warning on mortgage documents. It has very little meaning in Ireland though where non payers are cheered on by irresponsible politicians and bleeding hearts.

Omackeral

namloc1980 wrote: »

YOUR HOME IS AT RISK IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP PAYMENTS ON A MORTGAGE OR ANY LOAN SECURED ON IT.

This is the fundamental component of a mortgage and the main warning on mortgage documents. It has very little meaning in Ireland though where non payers are cheered on by irresponsible politicians and bleeding hearts.

YeAh BuT iTs ChRiStMaS!

expectationlost

anewme wrote: »

Why would it make you take the side of the defaulter?

people not paying for over 10 years rolling around on the ground looking for notice.

They are taking ppl for Fools. Not sure why anyone with a bit of cop on would feel sorry for them in any way.

There's ppl who fall on hard times a d then there's complete piss takers.

which is the mcgann in that video?

Ash.J.Williams

anewme wrote: »

Why would it make you take the side of the defaulter?

people not paying for over 10 years rolling around on the ground looking for notice.

They are taking ppl for Fools. Not sure why anyone with a bit of cop on would feel sorry for them in any way.

There's ppl who fall on hard times a d then there's complete piss takers.

I would never side with ex terrorist scum. There was a vat issue there too, the man could have quite legally been jailed for that and then the house could have taken easily.

PuppyMcPupFace

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I would never side with ex terrorist scum. There was a vat issue there too, the man could have quite legally been jailed for that and then the house could have taken easily.

Yeah because the numbnuts protesting wouldn't have caused ructions outside the court and then the jail would they ???

Ash.J.Williams

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

Yeah because the numbnuts protesting wouldn't have caused ructions outside the court and then the jail would they ???

Shouldn't think so, for vat fraud?

PuppyMcPupFace

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Shouldn't think so, for vat fraud?

One FB post from the morons in the AAA crowd about the falsely accused and yeah - there would be.

Ash.J.Williams

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

One FB post from the morons in the AAA crowd about the falsely accused and yeah - there would be.

People get jailed everyday for vat can't see any issue there

blueythebear

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

People get jailed everyday for vat can't see any issue there

The tax issue was resolved via a settlement as I understand it back in 2015. Plus, jailing the man for revenue issues is not something that the Bank has any control over nor any knowledge of so I don't see why the Bank should have to wait several years for the Revenue to prosecute, not knowing anything about the case that might be against the borrower.

The Bank would have no insight even if the man was pending prosecution by revenue, as to the nature of the alleged crime and whether Mr McGann might have been jailed over the issue. The Bank cannot wait for the man to be possibly jailed over some revenue issue that they have no knowledge about.

blueythebear

blueythebear wrote: »

The tax issue was resolved via a settlement as I understand it back in 2015. Plus, jailing the man for revenue issues is not something that the Bank has any control over nor any knowledge of so I don't see why the Bank should have to wait several years for the Revenue to prosecute, not knowing anything about the case that might be against the borrower.

The Bank would have no insight even if the man was pending prosecution by revenue, as to the nature of the alleged crime and whether Mr McGann might have been jailed over the issue. The Bank cannot wait for the man to be possibly jailed over some revenue issue that they have no knowledge about.

I thought that the VAT was still outstanding?

blueythebear

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought that the VAT was still outstanding?

Irish Times indicated that a settlement was entered into in 2015:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

PuppyMcPupFace

blueythebear wrote: »

Irish Times indicated that a settlement was entered into in 2015:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

That assumes he paid anything- he's entered into a fair few agreements the sponging wastee hsd zero intention of paying.

No wonder the skanger class hail him as a hero.

Snickers Man

anewme wrote: »

Anna Kavanagh, who gave publicity to the whole shambles, has disappeared off Facebook and all her videos gone. Anyone know why?

Because she was brain-lamingly crap?

Of all the attributes of a live-media journalist (as opposed to the print variety): fluency, articulacy, familiarity with subject matter, objectivity, insight, she had proficiency in.....well, none of them, to be honest.

There is a Facebook page called "Where is Anna Kavanagh?" but it doesn't seem to be visited much. Just saying......;)

weldoninhio

Snickers Man wrote: »

Because she was brain-lamingly crap?

Of all the attributes of a live-media journalist (as opposed to the print variety): fluency, articulacy, familiarity with subject matter, objectivity, insight, she had proficiency in.....well, none of them, to be honest.

There is a Facebook page called "Where is Anna Kavanagh?" but it doesn't seem to be visited much. Just saying......;)

No, everyone knows that Leo Varadkardashian had a face to face meeting with Zuck and told him to stop people from being able to view that page or he could no longer employ thousands of people in Ireland.

Wake up sheeple!!!