Red Dead Redemption 2

20silkcut · 08-01-2019 09:09PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

I think one of the reasons I won't ever replay the game is because of the fast travel issues.

In fairness it is a game set in the year 1899. It was well flagged in advance that the open world was going to be big and that horses and carriages were the mode of transport. Nobody should have had any expectations of zipping around the game and certainly not anyone who played RDR 2010.
I’m just wondering should rockstar re-think the open world for future editions of RDR maybe set it in an LA Noire scale sandbox environment. Maybe scaling the thing down might reduce the intervals between releases. I will be deep into middle age by the time the next one releases if the 8 year gap is to be repeated. The game is been heavily criticized for its Big world/ horse and carriage environment. Half the continental United States is represented in that Map.

The Phantom Pain · 08-01-2019 09:09PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

and even the missions that have novel ideas tend to feel like tutorial levels (with the incessant instruction boxes) for more interesting things that never come.

Because every action is context based.
Most of what you learn doesn't carry over because it's constantly giving you new button promps for every single situation. The muscle memory is virtually non existent as a result. Feels like I'm playing an interactive movie at times except even games like Life is Strange can be played without HUD after a while.

citytillidie · 08-01-2019 09:34PM

Finding those birds

for the stranger missions Duchesses and Other Animals

is a nightmare

The Phantom Pain · 08-01-2019 09:50PM

OK, so I've just done a Money Lending and Other Sins mission in chapter 6 and decided to take the silver pocket watch. How am I supposed to turn in the debt if there's

no tithing box???

Sad Professor · 08-01-2019 09:55PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

OK, so I've just done a Money Lending and Other Sins mission in chapter 6 and decided to take the silver pocket watch. How am I supposed to turn in the debt if there's
no tithing box???

You don't need to. Just go back to camp after you've done the two assignments.

The Phantom Pain · 08-01-2019 10:17PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

You don't need to. Just go back to camp after you've done the two assignments.

Thanks. Just did it. Really good conclusion.

The Phantom Pain · 08-01-2019 11:27PM

Also, where is the fast travel map in the chapter 6 camp?

wotzgoingon · 08-01-2019 11:49PM

It's on the side of one of those camps or Wagons if I remember correctly. I think it was the one closest to where that money lender was sitting on that log.

The Phantom Pain · 09-01-2019 12:41AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

It's on the side of one of those camps or Wagons if I remember correctly. I think it was the one closest to where that money lender was sitting on that log.

In Beaver Hollow? Can't see it anywhere...

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2019 12:49AM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

In Beaver Hollow? Can't see it anywhere...

Around the side of his Wagon/tent. On the side of it.

khaldrogo · 09-01-2019 01:15AM

So I've discovered a way to kind of fast travel.........I'm sure you all know but if you set a marker and start riding and then select scenic mode you keep going allow the marker path. Meanwhile I can watch a video on my phone or what not and just listen out for any shenanigans.

I've covered a good bit of the map like this!

The Phantom Pain · 09-01-2019 01:25AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Around the side of his Wagon/tent. On the side of it.

Alright, googled and found it. It's on the side of Arthur's wagon but I must have circled it so many times before and saw nothing!

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2019 01:30AM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Alright, googled and found it. It's on the side of Arthur's wagon but I must have circled it so many times before and saw nothing!

Isn't that what I told you twice.

The Phantom Pain · 09-01-2019 03:35AM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Isn't that what I told you twice.

You didn't "tell me".

"It's on the side of one of those camps or Wagons" is not exactly specific and you also said it was by the lender... it wasn't. Anyway, no biggie. I found it, all is good.

@khal I use the auto travel but sometimes Arthur crashes into wagons or gets attacked by a cougar which makes the horse throw him off so I don't tend to trust it anymore.

Dr. Bre · 09-01-2019 09:11AM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Also, where is the fast travel map in the chapter 6 camp?

I can’t find any health wagon or money ledger in chap 6

Tacitus Kilgore · 09-01-2019 09:12AM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

I can’t find any health wagon or money ledger in chap 6

There is none - someone in camp will note that the money box & ledger were destroyed

The Nal · 09-01-2019 10:10AM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

I can’t find any health wagon or money ledger in chap 6

You don't need

money outside of the money you receive in the main missions or any health provisions in the game. Think I've used 1 health cure and I've played the story twice now. You also don't need to eat, or feed your horse or give any money to the camp.

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2019 04:48PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

You didn't "tell me".

"It's on the side of one of those camps or Wagons" is not exactly specific and you also said it was by the lender... it wasn't. Anyway, no biggie. I found it, all is good.

@khal I use the auto travel but sometimes Arthur crashes into wagons or gets attacked by a cougar which makes the horse throw him off so I don't tend to trust it anymore.

Arthurs camp/wagon is the closest to the log your man the money lender was sitting on in this chapter. I also told you it was on the side of your camp/Arthurs.

Calltocall · 09-01-2019 06:21PM

Notorious wrote: »

Give the online a try, though it's not for everyone. If you're looking for another RPG I cannot recommend the Witcher 3 enough.

Cheers for that will check out the witcher

The Phantom Pain · 09-01-2019 08:16PM

That moment when Lending a Hand trophy pops.

I almost forgot about it because I was invested in the cut scene between Sadie and Arthur (for the mission that ultimately got me the trophy) so was pleasantly surprised when it suddenly popped. It was the trophy I was most nervous about. I do think it’s a bit mean for R* to only award a silver though. They underestimated just how difficult this trophy was to obtain

Speaking of Sadie, she has really come into her own hasn't she? It’s weird, she almost feels like she’s from a completely different R* game – one that wants the player to have a romping, rollicking good time and doesn’t let its obsession with realism get in the way. Even the music they play as she’s

shooting up the O’Driscolls hideout

got me pumped. I suppose the high energy of her missions are deliberate to reflect her boisterous personality. I do her missions the moment they’re available because they’re the most fun. She’s clearly the smartest in the group - it’s refreshing to have gang member whose “plans” actually work.

And despite the game doing its absolute best to lower honour simply for looking at an NPC the wrong way I did manage to get the Extreme Personality trophy as well. There's something about playing honourably that feels poetic given that

Arthur probably doesn't have long to live. It’s really unpleasant playing as him this way, painful to watch. The voice acting, animations and face model for “sick Arthur” is so well done that it makes me chesty just thinking about it. Nice attention to detail regarding his low weight and that any time he eats or drinks he has a coughing episode. In his journal he infers that he got TB from punching up Mrs Downes' husband who was sick with it.

Lastly, I didn't mind Chapter 5. Perhaps my expectations were so low going into it based on what others had said that I didn’t find it all that bad.

The island is beautiful but very linear and you can't explore it so it's kind of a waste of time in gameplay terms. However, it’s very quick and I’m pretty sure even one of the missions on the island is optional.

:cool:

Thepoet85 · 10-01-2019 10:56PM

Only managed to start this today even though I got it the day it released (Newborn in the house!!)

Anyway, I'm just on chapter two. Any advice for a new player for all of you that have finished it. Will likely only get to play a few hours a week tbh.

KeshFM93 · 11-01-2019 10:13AM

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Only managed to start this today even though I got it the day it released (Newborn in the house!!)

Anyway, I'm just on chapter two. Any advice for a new player for all of you that have finished it. Will likely only get to play a few hours a week tbh.

Take your time and enjoy , don't rush it because there's not a lot waiting for you in online.

Id say it's better to make your own mistakes. I didn't look up anything while playing and got through it fine.

khaldrogo · 11-01-2019 10:40AM

Thepoet85 wrote:

Anyway, I'm just on chapter two. Any advice for a new player for all of you that have finished it. Will likely only get to play a few hours a week tbh.

Don't put any time or money into a horse until you are brought to the stable to pick one out.

A good way to reveal the full map is to place a marker somewhere far away in the unknown and start riding then select the scenic mode and let Arthur get himself there while you browse your phone or what not.

I am only a few hours into the game but I have the whole map revealed and now can use the train to go to any place far away I may have to go for future missions.

Your dead eye drains very quickly and takes an age to replenish. Always have some elixors on you to quickly replenish it.

Ignore all the people calling for help. Waste of time and ammo.

wildlifeboy · 11-01-2019 10:54AM

khaldrogo wrote: »

Don't put any time or money into a horse until you are brought to the stable to pick one out.

A good way to reveal the full map is to place a marker somewhere far away in the unknown and start riding then select the scenic mode and let Arthur get himself there while you browse your phone or what not.

I am only a few hours into the game but I have the whole map revealed and now can use the train to go to any place far away I may have to go for future missions.

Your dead eye drains very quickly and takes an age to replenish. Always have some elixors on you to quickly replenish it.

Ignore all the people calling for help. Waste of time and ammo.

i am on chapter 6 and i still dont know how to use deadeye(xbox) or scenic travel or whatever its called, when it goes into cinematic mode and i stop pressing A the horse just stops lol

20silkcut · 11-01-2019 11:59AM

wildlifeboy wrote: »

i am on chapter 6 and i still dont know how to use deadeye(xbox) or scenic travel or whatever its called, when it goes into cinematic mode and i stop pressing A the horse just stops lol

I went through the whole game without using dead eye. Found it more beneficial to find good cover quickly.
Did not have a problem till the very end of the game had to skip the final checkpoint.

And the shootouts really intensify in the epilogues.

Re playing it again trying to master dead eye.
Press down the two analogue sticks and use the right stick to aim.
There is also a confusing draw action on the RT button that activates dead dye I don’t bother with that.

The Phantom Pain · 11-01-2019 12:01PM

wildlifeboy wrote: »

i am on chapter 6 and i still dont know how to use deadeye(xbox) or scenic travel or whatever its called, when it goes into cinematic mode and i stop pressing A the horse just stops lol

For PS4 it's hold X and touchpad at same tie then let go of them at the same time and Arthur has to be on the road as you do it. I don't know what the XBox equivalent to the PS4 touchpad though but if you can find out what that is then there's probably your answer.

The Phantom Pain · 11-01-2019 12:59PM

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Only managed to start this today even though I got it the day it released (Newborn in the house!!)

Anyway, I'm just on chapter two. Any advice for a new player for all of you that have finished it. Will likely only get to play a few hours a week tbh.

I haven't finished the game but I am far enough to give enough tips to make your gameplay experience more pleasant:

Upgrade Dutch’s tent under “first things first” in the ledger as soon as you can. This will unlock the upgrade to fast travel from the camp albeit one-way.

Hold circle (B for xbox) when deep in menus to instantly come out and back into the game.

Hold options on ps4 to go straight to map

Sign up for Social Club. You can purchase items with in-game currency so if you have the money but can't be bothered to make your way into town that is very useful! This does require closing the game entirely although in this game that, believe it or not, is often the quicker option. You'll see what I mean.

The honour/bounty system is... problematic. Be warned - you can get a bounty simply for accidentally bumping into someone, “for disturbing the peace”, accidentally crashing your horse, pointing your gun during hunting as NPCs are hyper aggressive … so be careful how you move. Don’t loot any bodies out in the open unless you absolutely have to. The game wants you to loot some bodies because they contain letters that add to the lore but others the game just decides is dishonourable to do for some reason. Good luck.

If you’re really broke and have a crazy high bounty don't pay it! The easiest and least expensive way to get rid of the bounty is to go into a jail in the bounty area and antagonise an officer. This will cause you to become wanted. Surrender immediately. You'll do jail time, lose what little money you have if any and you'll lose the bounty. Obviously, if you do have loads of money on you while being Wanted for a large amount then blow it all on what you want first before surrendering.

Upgrade Arthur’s satchel and get the Legend of the East satchel ASAP. Do his simultaneously while doing the Master Hunter and Survivalist challenges...

If you plan on doing the challenges do them as soon as they’re available. Nothing you do counts towards them until they’re unlocked so you’ll just be facing a lot of repetition. I would recommend doing Herbalist, Master Hunter and Survivalist first as they’re RNG dependent. Challenges get you some nice rewards from the Trapper too.

The Trapper is whom you sell your legendary pelts and carcasses too (the other butchers won’t take legendary game). He will use this to craft unique items. He also sells useful items for hunting.

The Fence is the only merchant who will buy anything you’ve stolen /collected out in the wild like valuables. Other vendors won’t touch it.

If you don’t want to risk it, make sure to stable your horse first before taking a train as it can die trailing behind. Or if you can’t be bothered to ride to the stables then run back to the station then save just before you take a train.

If you find yourself stranded for whatever reason with your horse too far away to call have Arthur commit suicide or simply reload the game so that the horse will respawn nearby.

You can feed and brush your horse while on it. You don't have to come off to do it although be warned that in order to brush the horse it must be moving very slowly. Also, be careful about what plants you feed your horse as this can cause a shortage with the Herbalist challenge. Avoid auto feeding him and select from the horse wheel instead.

Enjoy!

khaldrogo · 11-01-2019 01:13PM

wildlifeboy wrote:

i am on chapter 6 and i still dont know how to use deadeye(xbox) or scenic travel or whatever its called, when it goes into cinematic mode and i stop pressing A the horse just stops lol

You need to have a marker placed on the map and the horse will keep going along the red line while in scenic mode

wotzgoingon · 11-01-2019 05:41PM

I played through the game with out upgrading the satchel and doing very little hunting. I never bought or upgraded a gun I used the ones you get free and I only cleaned one gun once with the oil. I got some notification the gun was dirty.

I had no trouble throughout the game at all except breaking Marston out of

prison

. I died or the guys with me died so I replayed it about 5 times before I got it. I did get a prompt to skip it but I didn't want to.

And the hardest part of the game was when I was robbing a stage coach and the guy with me had to

lie in the middle of the road.

That was one hard mission.

Potential-Monke · 12-01-2019 02:49PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

And the hardest part of the game was when I was robbing a stage coach and the guy with me had to
lie in the middle of the road.
That was one hard mission.

Was the the one

in St. Denis where Pearson (I think) pretended to be dead or dying in the middle of the street so you can rob the explosives? If so, I dead-eyed all of them in 1 go with the sniper.

Red Dead Redemption 2

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