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Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

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    #3872
    razor8
    Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭razor8


    blueythebear wrote: »
    Irish Times indicated that a settlement was entered into in 2015:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

    Settlement agreed but never paid


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    #3873
    [Deleted User]
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    razor8 wrote: »
    Settlement agreed but never paid

    That was my understanding too.


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    #3874
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Omackeral wrote: »
    YeAh BuT iTs ChRiStMaS!

    Could be Pancake Day for all I care about this defaulter.


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    #3875
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Snickers Man wrote: »
    Because she was brain-lamingly crap?

    Of all the attributes of a live-media journalist (as opposed to the print variety): fluency, articulacy, familiarity with subject matter, objectivity, insight, she had proficiency in.....well, none of them, to be honest.

    There is a Facebook page called "Where is Anna Kavanagh?" but it doesn't seem to be visited much. Just saying......;)

    Her twitter and youtube pages were crazy. The woman is unhinged.


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    #3876
    blueythebear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    razor8 wrote: »
    Settlement agreed but never paid

    The media have said that he entered into a settlement in 2015 but there is no indication of whether he stuck to that agreement or not. Given his history, you would be forgiven for thinking he may have not stuck to the letter of that agreement!

    But, then Revenue would likely have moved against him again and there does not seem to be any evidence of this, in terms of a conviction or further proceedings. I presume that the Times or the Indo would have been able to dig this up if it existed.


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    #3877
    [Deleted User]
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    Grayson wrote: »
    Her twitter and youtube pages were crazy. The woman is unhinged.

    I reckon that her family intervened and put a stop to her ramblings for her own safety.


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    #3878
    gandalf
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    blueythebear wrote: »
    The media have said that he entered into a settlement in 2015 but there is no indication of whether he stuck to that agreement or not. Given his history, you would be forgiven for thinking he may have not stuck to the letter of that agreement!

    But, then Revenue would likely have moved against him again and there does not seem to be any evidence of this, in terms of a conviction or further proceedings. I presume that the Times or the Indo would have been able to dig this up if it existed.

    If they were aware of KBC's action against him they'd have waited in the wings for the repossession and sale as they would have first dibs on any cash raised.


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    #3879
    blueythebear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    gandalf wrote: »
    If they were aware of KBC's action against him they'd have waited in the wings for the repossession and sale as they would have first dibs on any cash raised.

    KBC's claim based on a first legal charge will come before Revenues' claim, who don't even appear to have obtained a judgement. There appears to have been a settlement prior to Revenue issuing any proceedings anyway.


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    #3880
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I reckon that her family intervened and put a stop to her ramblings for her own safety.

    Was she the originator of the idea that the McCanns were “pulled out by the ears”? That was repeated in the Dáil by Pearce the shinner, he won’t like it if he has to correct the record if he mislead the house.


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    #3881
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    So what's the latest, has McGann been jailed yet?
    He's a criminal after all.


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    #3882
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    YOUR HOME IS AT RISK IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP PAYMENTS ON A MORTGAGE OR ANY LOAN SECURED ON IT.

    This is the fundamental component of a mortgage and the main warning on mortgage documents. It has very little meaning in Ireland though where non payers are cheered on by irresponsible politicians and bleeding hearts.

    Absolutely, it’s these people who should be in the spotlight.

    Local politicians ‘covering their ass’ and trying to be all things to all men.

    It’s way beyond the time these irresponsible folk were called out, and for once the side of the taxpayer was considered.

    If people ,as reported, like Fitzmaurice, had their way ,it would appear that it’s fine to not repay and not have the asset seized.

    Madness.


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    #3883
    orm0nd
    Registered Users Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »

    If people ,as reported, like Fitzmaurice, had their way ,it would appear that it’s fine to not repay and not have the asset seized.

    Madness.

    Can you post the link to where Fitzmaurice stated so.

    Thanks


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    #3884
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    orm0nd wrote: »
    Can you post the link to where Fitzmaurice stated so.

    Thanks


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    Independent Roscommon TD Michael Fitzmaurice has denied that comments he made in the Dáil last week had incited violence.
    On Wednesday during a Dáil debate on the Anti-Evictions Bill he had warned that “Irish people need to wake up, especially if people are coming from the North. We must take them on and stop what is happening.”
    He said many people were receiving notice-to-quit letters from banks selling buy-to-let properties. “In my opinion many of the banks involved are scum.”
    On RTɒs Morning Ireland Mr Fitzmaurice rejected the suggestion that he was inciting violence in his comments about evictions.
    “Violence solves nothing. We have to sit down and work with people, including the banks.”

    Sorry having wi-fi break up I’m my area will try again later.


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    #3885
    zimmermania
    Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭zimmermania


    P_1 wrote: »
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=521998308280272&id=433698377110266

    Context. KBC are trying to evict people from a property in Strokestown. On Tuesday a gang of people from north of the border who identify as British moved in on the property, assaulting people ( there are videos floating about online about this). Last night a large group of people seemingly took the property back, 2 dogs are dead and several northern registered vans have been burnt out.

    Several questions. Main one is what on earth were KBC thinking going down this road? Have they no idea of the historical context of doing this? Second question is how this is going to be framed by the national media.

    Context.KBC were trying to get people to leave a property that they own.The people they were trying to evict did not own the property and never did.

    You describe the security team as a "gang" and you describe the masked and armed gang who"took the property back" as a "group"

    Main question.What was the original owner doing putting up his house and land as security for a loan which he defaulted on?And why did he fail to engage with the bank over a period of many years.

    His actions and those of the gang of masked men who beat up the security guards and burned several vechicles have ensured that ordinary decent farmers wild find it difficult to borrow money using their houses and land as a guarantee against default and if they do manage to get get a loan will have to pay higher interest rates due to the events that you described in such a subjective manner.


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    #3886
    goat2
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
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    Independent Roscommon TD Michael Fitzmaurice has denied that comments he made in the Dáil last week had incited violence.
    On Wednesday during a Dáil debate on the Anti-Evictions Bill he had warned that “Irish people need to wake up, especially if people are coming from the North. We must take them on and stop what is happening.”
    He said many people were receiving notice-to-quit letters from banks selling buy-to-let properties. “In my opinion many of the banks involved are scum.”
    On RTɒs Morning Ireland Mr Fitzmaurice rejected the suggestion that he was inciting violence in his comments about evictions.
    “Violence solves nothing. We have to sit down and work with people, including the banks.”

    Sorry having wi-fi break up I’m my area will try again later.
    were those his exact words


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    #3887
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    goat2 wrote: »
    were those his exact words
    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
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    Independent Roscommon TD Michael Fitzmaurice has denied that comments he made in the Dáil last week had incited violence.
    On Wednesday during a Dáil debate on the Anti-Evictions Bill he had warned that “Irish people need to wake up, especially if people are coming from the North. We must take them on and stop what is happening.”
    He said many people were receiving notice-to-quit letters from banks selling buy-to-let properties. “In my opinion many of the banks involved are scum.”
    On RTɒs Morning Ireland Mr Fitzmaurice rejected the suggestion that he was inciting violence in his comments about evictions.
    “Violence solves nothing. We have to sit down and work with people, including the banks.”

    Sorry having wi-fi break up I’m my area will try again later.


    I presume the passages quoted were....


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    #3888
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    The problem with a certain cohort in Ireland is that every one of them know their “rights” but very few understand their responsibilities.


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    #3889
    [Deleted User]
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    An arrest has been made into the early morning incident of December 16. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-54-arrested-in-connection-with-strokestown-incident-896762.html


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    #3890
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Deleted User wrote: »
    An arrest has been made into the early morning incident of December 16. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-54-arrested-in-connection-with-strokestown-incident-896762.html

    This will be interesting Maryanne, especially the background of those arrested.

    More to come apparently, which is good .


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    #3891
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Hopefully justice will be done and those responsible for the crimes will be punished.


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    #3892
    liam7831
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭liam7831


    LessOutragePlz wrote:
    Hopefully justice will be done and those responsible for the crimes will be punished.

    Be hard to convict as they were working for the bank


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    #3893
    [Deleted User]
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    liam7831 wrote: »
    Be hard to convict as they were working for the bank

    I thought that they were a bunch of vigilantes “supporting” the family?


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    #3894
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Be hard to convict as they were working for the bank

    Na I'm talking about the scumbags that attacked the security guards.


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    #3895
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Na I'm talking about the scumbags that attacked the security guards.

    Polis will fillet those tossers Lesser, should kick off fairly soon.


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    #3896
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The problem with a certain cohort in Ireland is that every one of them know their “rights” but very few understand their responsibilities.

    That's true is all walks to be fair. I'd say most know their 'responsibilities' but it if ain't illegal, can't be bothered.


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    #3897
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭christy c


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Be hard to convict as they were working for the bank

    What crimes did they commit?


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    #3898
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    christy c wrote: »
    What crimes did they commit?

    From the link in my post. “ three security guards were hospitalised, a dog was put down as a result of its injuries, and vehicles were burnt out”


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    #3899
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭christy c


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    From the link in my post. “ three security guards were hospitalised, a dog was put down as a result of its injuries, and vehicles were burnt out”

    By "they", I meant the people hired by the banks.


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    #3900
    keavebm
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭keavebm


    christy c wrote:
    By "they", I meant the people hired by the banks.


    Beat up innocent people while the guards looked on. If u read this thread from the start you would know.


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    #3901
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    christy c wrote: »
    By "they", I meant the people hired by the banks.

    Do you mean people hired by the banks to carry out a legal eviction? You do know that people cannot stay forever in homes without paying for said home?


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