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22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

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    #812
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I presume you reported them for drink driving??

    Their driver was outside waiting for them.

    So I don't think she was drinking.


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    #813
    MarkHenderson
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭MarkHenderson


    nthclare wrote: »
    Sometimes we have to filter out our own nuts too.
    There during the Christmas, I went into a takeaway in a village in the Clare, there's a few brothers working there.

    They do amazing food, and are very hygienic.
    I love halal beef, it's very tasty and healthy.

    These guys come in pissed, started taking the piss out of the guys cooking and serving them up food.
    Bringing up slightly hostile conversations about the middle East and how come you boy's aren't gone home for Christmas etc

    Anyhow these ignorant guys came out of a 181 Landover, spoke with elequent posh Dublin accents and probably have fairly good education and life experience.

    The guy's in the takeaway politely informed them they'ed love to go home for Christmas, but they're busy feeding the locals.
    And in Peshawar Christmas is huge and everyone gets involved in the festivities....

    Irony huh

    Of course you did.


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    #814
    Chinasea
    Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    MarkHenderson wrote: »
    Already happening in small pockets in Dublin anyway. Now is the time to deal with the..

    ......hate.

    Who exactly is doing the cheap labour jobs for you. The toilet cleaners, the hospital puke cleaners, the bin men, deliverydoo, fastfood....

    And where exactly would you allow them live.


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    #815
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Chinasea wrote: »
    Who exactly is doing the cheap labour jobs for you. The toilet cleaners, the hospital puke cleaners, the bin men, deliverydoo, fastfood....

    These low-skilled jobs are currently filled by the low-skilled.

    Yes perhaps many migrants, but locals also. Many are on zero-hours contracts and according an OECD study - there is an estimated 46% probability that the average worker's job would be automated by the 2030s.

    There will be much higher percent replacement rate for these low-skilled manual roles, who will either have to spend years re-training, or signup to some future welfare-based UBI.

    "Varadkar warns that robots and artificial intelligence pose risk to people's jobs'

    https://www.thejournal.ie/leo-varadkar-robots-ai-4417634-Dec2018/
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1122/1012550-future_jobs_summit/


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    #816
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Sterling Thoughtless Schoolyard wrote: »
    These low-skilled jobs are currently filled by the low-skilled.

    Yes perhaps many migrants, but locals also. Many are on zero-hours contracts and according an OECD study - there is an estimated 46% probability that the average worker's job would be automated by the 2030s.

    There will be much higher percent replacement rate for these low-skilled manual roles, who will either have to spend years re-training, or signup to some future welfare-based UBI.

    "Varadkar warns that robots and artificial intelligence pose risk to people's jobs'

    https://www.thejournal.ie/leo-varadkar-robots-ai-4417634-Dec2018/
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1122/1012550-future_jobs_summit/

    Can you link that OECD study please.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #817
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Snake was posting opinion pieces from that scummy moron Richard Spencer.

    I did nothing of the sort, are you completely incapable of debating the issue without outright lies and childish snipes?

    I note you had no argument against the content of my post, but then, the facts indeed are hard to argue with so I understand why you might revert to ad hominems.


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    #818
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Snake was posting opinion pieces from that scummy moron Richard Spencer.

    I did nothing of the sort, are you completely incapable of debating the issue without outright lies and childish snipes?

    I note you had no argument against the content of my post, but then, the facts indeed are hard to argue with so I understand why you might revert to ad hominems.
    You did. Not in this thread. Put me back on ignore.


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    #819
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    What a disgusting comment, but then that's typical of the hard left, you cannot debate the issue, cannot argue against statistical evidence, all you can do is throw insults and childish snipes, I pity you and those of your ilk.


    Is it much different than posters posting about Muslim attacks as an argument against immigration?


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    #820
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Can you link that OECD study please.

    The 46% figure was referenced in the rte new link above, and appears in many articles such as https://www.information-age.com/oecd-automation-job-123473074 ain't got time to dig out links to every press release OECD issue.

    It's safe to assume the jobs at risk will be minimum of 30-50% as a ballpark figure (see also the PWC report), both empahasis that 'young males without higher education' will be most affected.

    So yes some low-paid migrants working as toilet cleaners, fruit pickers and street sweepers are very useful (currently) for tasks natives won't do, but this will all become automated by 2030.


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    #821
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Sterling Thoughtless Schoolyard wrote: »
    The 46% figure was referenced in the rte new link above, and appears in many articles such as https://www.information-age.com/oecd-automation-job-123473074 ain't got time to dig out links to every press release OECD issue.

    It's safe to assume the jobs at risk will be minimum of 30-50% as a ballpark figure (see also the PWC report), both empahasis that 'young males without higher education' will be most affected.

    So yes some low-paid migrants working as toilet cleaners, fruit pickers and street sweepers are very useful (currently) for tasks natives won't do, but this will all become automated by 2030.

    If it appears in that many articles can you link it please.
    I’m not trying to catch you out I’m just genuinely interested in this report/study but I can’t seem to find it.
    If you could post it here I would be grateful, thanks.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #822
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Working class heroes wrote: »
    If it appears in that many articles can you link it please.
    I’m not trying to catch you out I’m just genuinely interested in this report/study but I can’t seem to find it.
    If you could post it here I would be grateful, thanks.

    Ain't got the time pal, they release hugh amounts of reports, or ask RTE and others, where they got the figure from.

    Sure read the PWC one in the meantime.
    https://www.pwc.co.uk/services/economics-policy/insights/the-impact-of-automation-on-jobs.html

    They calculate 44% of workers with low education will be a risk by the mid 2030's. Young males are most at risk as they don't have much valuable work experience, and the one industry that isn't at large risk (nurse/medical/carers) is female dominated.


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    #823
    batgoat
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Is it much different than posters posting about Muslim attacks as an argument against immigration?

    I did follow up by stating that it doesn't mean I view all the racists on here as potential Breiviks. I've worked with a fair few Muslims over the years, pretty diverse in terms of religious viewpoints. Some were basically as a-la-carte as the average Irish Catholic.

    I'm sure some had extreme views but to use another example, I was speaking to a former classmate about two years back. He expressed incredibly racist views, said some pretty horrendous thing about women who support abortions and was just an all round nasty guy. But I would never claim he represented Catholics with that ****e.

    It just confounds me that people are dumb enough to label a large proportion of the world's population as terrorist in waiting.


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    #824
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    batgoat wrote: »
    It just confounds me that people are dumb enough to label a large proportion of the world's population as terrorist in waiting.

    Can you tell me what percentage of Muslims think that these terror attacks are justified? I've read it could up to 23% is that correct?


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    #825
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You did. Not in this thread. Put me back on ignore.

    I did not, and you know I did not, if I did such a thing you would revel in being able to quote this mythical post of mine, why persist in the lies? It's childish.

    And as for putting you on ignore, why would I do such a thing when it only enables you to post your cowardly lies without me having the ability to show my fellow posters what a fraud you are.


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    #826
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Can you tell me what percentage of Muslims think that these terror attacks are justified? I've read it could up to 23% is that correct?

    I'm sure someone has a link to a report but the Charlie Hebdo murders garnered something like that yes, perhaps higher.


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    #827
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You did. Not in this thread. Put me back on ignore.

    I did not, and you know I did not, if I did such a thing you would revel in being able to quote this mythical post of mine, why persist in the lies? It's childish.

    And as for putting you on ignore, why would I do such a thing when it only enables you to post your cowardly lies without me having the ability to show my fellow posters what a liar you are.
    You know where that thread is, don't you.

    You did. Lie all about it you want. Anyway you'll be doing it soon enough again I'd say.

    When you post white supremacist content, it does get read. Scuttle away now.


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    #828
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    yes


    Can you tell me why? Why is it OK to assume a person is a danger, or even just undesirable, because they come from a country that is predominately Muslim? Why is it OK to assume their religious and political beliefs are congruent with terrorists but it's not OK to associate a person who expressly states the same beliefs as a terrorist with terrorism?


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    #829
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »
    I'm sure someone has a link to a report but the Charlie Hebdo murders garnered something like that yes, perhaps higher.

    That would be a big part of the worlds population. I'm confounded about his confoundedness as to why people are dumb for thinking that.

    Could his opinion be dumb and everyone else is just way smarter than he is. :o


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    #830
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You know where that thread is, don't you.

    You did. Lie all about it you want. Anyway you'll be doing it soon enough again I'd say.

    When you post white supremacist content, it does get read. Scuttle away now.
    Maybe it was his mate who has an almost identical username as him, barring one letter. They're usually spotted in these types of threads together. Easy mistake to make if it was.


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    #831
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Can you tell me why? Why is it OK to assume a person is a danger, or even just undesirable, because they come from a country that is predominately Muslim? Why is it OK to assume their religious and political beliefs are congruent with terrorists but it's not OK to associate a person who expressly states the same beliefs as a terrorist with terrorism?

    Because those who commit acts of terror are not alone, despite the "lone wolf" bull**** we're asked to buy.

    They're supported by at least 1 in 4 or more of the others of their "faith" who think what they're doing is okay.


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    #832
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You know where that thread is, don't you.

    You did. Lie all about it you want. Anyway you'll be doing it soon enough again I'd say.

    When you post white supremacist content, it does get read. Scuttle away now.

    You're a child, quote one single post of mine in any thread where I linked to Richard Spencer as you have foolishly claimed... but you won't, because you simply can't as I never have, not once, on any thread. Go on, post this fabled post of mine, prove you're not a spoofer.

    You've embarrassed yourself, you admitted you believed I had you on ignore which is exactly why you felt free to post such lies about me without my knowledge and without my ability to address your lies. Cowardly.

    Now run off and troll someone else, you post lies about me any further and I will show you up as the fraud you are.


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    #833
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Maybe it was his mate who has an almost identical username as him, barring one letter. They're usually spotted in these types of threads together. Easy mistake to make if it was.

    But it wasn't a mistake, winniethepoo claimed I linked to Richard Spencer, I did not. Winniethepooh has history around these parts of having threads closed down by him posting scurrilous lies and accusations... but I have to ask, why are you leaping to his defense? Surely he can defend his honour all by himself.


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    #834
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    But it wasn't a mistake, winniethepoo claimed I linked to Richard Spencer, I did not. Winniethepooh has history around these parts of having threads closed down by him posting scurrilous lies and accusations... but I have to ask, why are you leaping to his defense? Surely he can defend his honour all by himself.

    Aww I think it's sweet! Probably puts his cost over a puddle too!!


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    #835
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Can you tell me what percentage of Muslims think that these terror attacks are justified? I've read it could up to 23% is that correct?

    Has someone polled all 1000,000,000+ Muslims?


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    #836
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Has someone polled all 1000,000,000+ Muslims?

    Don't be a silly bugger. You can get a good idea from polling smaller numbers just like they do here with the exit polls and are usually pretty accurate.


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    #837
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Has someone polled all 1000,000,000+ Muslims?

    Poll - noun;
    a questioning or canvassing of persons selected at random or by quota to obtain information or opinions to be analyzed

    You do understand you don't need to ask all members of a group, just a reasonably large sample chosen at random and across a number of geographical regions to correlate this data?


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    #838
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    But it wasn't a mistake, winniethepoo claimed I linked to Richard Spencer, I did not. Winniethepooh has history around these parts of having threads closed down by him posting scurrilous lies and accusations... but I have to ask, why are you leaping to his defense? Surely he can defend his honour all by himself.
    I have no idea about the poster's history. I just suggested he might have made a mistake by confusing you with your namesake and if he did it would be an easy mistake to make. That's all.


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    #839
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »
    Because those who commit acts of terror are not alone, despite the "lone wolf" bull**** we're asked to buy.

    They're supported by at least 1 in 4 or more of the others of their "faith" who think what they're doing is okay.


    So why should the other 3 out of 4 be tarred yet it's somehow unfair to associate a single person with a terrorist who has the same political beliefs?


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    #840
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Don't be a silly bugger. You can get a good idea from polling smaller numbers just like they do here with the exit polls and are usually pretty accurate.

    No because there are different branches of islam, thats like saying if you poll 1000 christians in Dublin then that will be the same as polling all christians around the world.


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    #841
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I have no idea about the poster's history. I just suggested he might have made a mistake by confusing you with your namesake and if he did it would be an easy mistake to make. That's all.

    I dont mean to offend, but you need to look more closely at this poster's history, he is known for posting absolute fraudulent accusations about anyone and all he disagrees with. He did not make a mistake, he tried to pass off a lie as truth as he mistakenly believed I had him on ignore.


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