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Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

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    #8702
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,921 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Think it could be a very rough few weeks for Munster. Have to travel up to ulster without internationals to play against a team in good form and will be gunning for revenge after earlier in the season.

    Leinster will always be a tough game as mentioned above.

    Then away to Connacht with 6 day turn around before massive European match where as Connacht can roseate in Europe. Connacht would probably target the Munster match more than Europe as beating Munster would more than likely mean overtaking them in the conference.

    Could see Munster coming out of the next few matches with very little points


    Ulster won't have their internationals either and as we all know there is no real strength in depth when those guys have gone. I will be happy with a decent performance but don't expect a win.



    The Scarlets were a shadow of the side we saw over the last 2 seasons and Ulster have beaten them 3 times this season yet got stuffed in the other game at Parc Y Empty. Apart from hoking them, the other results are not really encouraging. A lot of scratching and scrabbling for wins. It was this time last season when the wheels came off the wagon. Up to Christmas things had been o.k.



    The feel good factor a.t.m. might amount to papering over the cracks but at least a start has been made to repairing them at Ulster. It will take more than this season.



    Actually this will be an interesting game from the point of view of seeing where the Ulster side are at, Munster are a good measuring yardstick for this.


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    #8703
    The Lost Sheep
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Think it could be a very rough few weeks for Munster. Have to travel up to ulster without internationals to play against a team in good form and will be gunning for revenge after earlier in the season.

    Leinster will always be a tough game as mentioned above.

    Then away to Connacht with 6 day turn around before massive European match where as Connacht can roseate in Europe. Connacht would probably target the Munster match more than Europe as beating Munster would more than likely mean overtaking them in the conference.

    Could see Munster coming out of the next few matches with very little points
    I dont think its as bad as you make it out to be.
    Ulster will be missing players in that game as well.
    Leinster will be tough but all depends on who's involved for each. Connacht can rotate for Europe to an extent but will still be pushing for quarters place and it'll be third interpro for each so hard to say who'll be available then
    Wouldnt say Munster will have few points from the interpros.


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    #8704
    jmn51927
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭jmn51927


    Going of the Inpho photos taken in training today the players missing were:
    Kilcoyne
    Scannell
    Ryan
    Beirne
    Pom
    CJ
    Murray
    Carberry
    Scannell
    Arnold
    Sweets
    Conway
    Earls
    and probably the biggest one, Mike Haley


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    #8705
    jmn51927
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭jmn51927


    jmn51927 wrote: »
    Going of the Inpho photos taken in training today the players missing were:
    Kilcoyne
    Scannell
    Ryan
    Beirne
    Pom
    CJ
    Murray
    Carberry
    Scannell
    Arnold
    Sweets
    Conway
    Earls
    and probably the biggest one, Mike Haley
    Therefore going off the fact none of these are available the team for Friday is probably looking like this presuming we can’t get any back.
    Loughman KOB Archer Kleyn(did media duties so probably suggests he’s good) Holland Coombes Cloete Botha Cronin Johnson Wotton Tyler Taute Nash Hanrahan.
    Sherry O’Connor(liam) Parker Wycherley Oliver Williams Goggin Daly


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    #8706
    Caranica
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    With the exceptions of Rory Scannell and Mike Haley there's nothing unexpected there. Would be surprised that Haley is making even the extended Ireland squad but guess Joe is looking at alternative 15s of all kinds


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    #8707
    stephen_n
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    jacothelad wrote: »
    Ulster won't have their internationals either and as we all know there is no real strength in depth when those guys have gone. I will be happy with a decent performance but don't expect a win.

    Actually this will be an interesting game from the point of view of seeing where the Ulster side are at, Munster are a good measuring yardstick for this.

    The biggest loses will probably be Addison, Henderson and Nordi as they are far better than whoever is going to replace them. Best will be missed from a leadership point of view, but there’s very little step down in quality to Herring (if he was released from the squads?). Stockdale of course is a big loss as he’s always good for a try, but wingers don’t influence games as much as forwards. Having Coetze, Moore and a resurgent Treadwell will help Ulster greatly. Munster are far more affected and will not be fielding a weak team at home to Leinster. As you say a good test, but one I’d be hopeful Ulster can pass.


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    #8708
    jmn51927
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    Caranica wrote: »
    With the exceptions of Rory Scannell and Mike Haley there's nothing unexpected there. Would be surprised that Haley is making even the extended Ireland squad but guess Joe is looking at alternative 15s of all kinds

    Presuming Scannell is in for Henshaw


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    #8709
    sydthebeat
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    Munster +5 for the Ulster game


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    #8710
    PTH2009
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    Guess Who's Back, Back Again? JJ's Back, Tell a Friend
    Why are the internationals not playing this week ?


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    #8711
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Munster +5 for the Ulster game

    They've more faith in us than I do.


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    #8712
    thomond2006
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Why are the internationals not playing this week ?

    Enforced rest, same as always.

    The starting XV, Carbery and Stander aside, played against Edinburgh so they're on three consecutive games already.
    This is the time of year where we'll see the usual grumbling about second string interpro lineups (I'm as guilty as anyone of this) but ultimately if Ireland win a 6N/GS in a few months time the dissenters will be silent.


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    #8713
    ki
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭ki


    John Hayes Ligind
    Is it time to abandon the idea of playing home and away interpros as part of the Pro14?

    If Muster V Leinster happened just once a year and it was a true 1st XV versus 1st XV, it would be the game we would all look forward to? - the bragging rights would mean something again.


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    #8714
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    ki wrote: »
    Is it time to abandon the idea of playing home and away interpros as part of the Pro14?

    If Muster V Leinster happened just once a year and it was a true 1st XV versus 1st XV, it would be the game we would all look forward to? - the bragging rights would mean something again.

    Some of us enjoy watching the Leinster kids walloping Munster


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    #8715
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    ki wrote: »
    Is it time to abandon the idea of playing home and away interpros as part of the Pro14?

    If Muster V Leinster happened just once a year and it was a true 1st XV versus 1st XV, it would be the game we would all look forward to? - the bragging rights would mean something again.




    Why wouldn't you let the kids get some experience? nothing better than the yearly winning trip to Limerick over the Christmas :P


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    #8716
    elliot_st
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 90 ✭✭elliot_st


    ki wrote: »
    Is it time to abandon the idea of playing home and away interpros as part of the Pro14?

    If Muster V Leinster happened just once a year and it was a true 1st XV versus 1st XV, it would be the game we would all look forward to? - the bragging rights would mean something again.

    neither side would want to lose income from losing a home game.


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    #8717
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    ki wrote: »
    Is it time to abandon the idea of playing home and away interpros as part of the Pro14?

    If Muster V Leinster happened just once a year and it was a true 1st XV versus 1st XV, it would be the game we would all look forward to? - the bragging rights would mean something again.

    Seems a very English solution to change the entire structure of the league to suit IRFU self imposed selection policies.


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    #8718
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Psycho Killer - "Hands Away" (Prop-Prop-Prrrroppp-Prop, Prop-Prop-Prop-Prrrrrrop-Prop)
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you let the kids get some experience? nothing better than the yearly winning trip to Limerick over the Christmas :P

    Ya, that one year winning streak really is impressive...


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    #8719
    elliot_st
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 90 ✭✭elliot_st


    aloooof wrote: »
    Ya, that one year winning streak really is impressive...

    no one beats Munster 5 times in a row, right?


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    #8720
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    aloooof wrote: »
    Ya, that one year winning streak really is impressive...


    Since 2010/11
    Played 19 times
    Munster wins: 6
    Will leave you to work out the Leinster wins :p


    A win this Christmas and Leinster will match the longest winning streak in the fixture of 5


    So it is not a nothing fixture for Leinster, I would guess they want to match that winning streak


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    #8721
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Since 2010/11
    Played 19 times
    Munster wins: 6
    Will leave you to work out the Leinster wins :p


    A win this Christmas and Leinster will match the longest winning streak in the fixture of 5


    So it is not a nothing fixture for Leinster, I would guess they want to match that winning streak

    Leinster have far bigger fish to fry, a win would be nice but no way is it that important to extend a meaningless streak.


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    #8722
    Vinnie222
    Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Mickiemcfist wrote: »
    They've more faith in us than I do.

    Bookies are never 2 far wrong


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    #8723
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Psycho Killer - "Hands Away" (Prop-Prop-Prrrroppp-Prop, Prop-Prop-Prop-Prrrrrrop-Prop)
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    nothing better than the yearly winning trip to Limerick over the Christmas :P
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Since 2010/11
    Played 19 times

    Changing goalposts springs to mind. Anyways, this is making sh*t of this thread for everyone else so I'm out.


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    #8724
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Big news

    https://twitter.com/PlanetRugby/status/1075425000226729984?s=19


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    #8725
    Poorside
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    That’s makes a win over there a lot more achievable


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    #8726
    Buer
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    Psycho Killer - "Hands Away" (Prop-Prop-Prrrroppp-Prop, Prop-Prop-Prop-Prrrrrrop-Prop)
    Ouch. That's Gloucester in a spot of bother. Cipriani has started every single Premiership and Champions Cup game for them bar one; they're quite unprepared for losing him. Their injury list is impressively long at this point. A rake of their new signings are now absent.

    I assume Owen Williams will move back to outhalf, where he hasn't played regularly in a long time and was second fiddle to Billy Burns last season. Munster fans will remember him with little fondness however, given his kick in injury time at Welford Road a few years back.


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    #8727
    Dubinusa
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    Mathewson is keen to stay? Would that be allowed? Don't Munster have plenty of cover at 9?


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    #8728
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,836 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    John Hayes Ligind
    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Mathewson is keen to stay? Would that be allowed? Don't Munster have plenty of cover at 9?

    Not a hope given the McCarthy signing I would imagine. At least not past the end of the season.


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    #8729
    thomond2006
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    A new born king to see POM POM POM POM POM
    Maybe he could stay as RWC cover with Murray absent but I don't see anything beyond that. Ultimately the RWC is an opportunity for McCarthy to start 4-5 matches so I don't see a need to keep Mathewson.


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    #8730
    2smiggy
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    John Hayes Ligind
    Kockott got 3 weeks for 'contract to the eye area'. Bit of a joke ban really. Again I cannot see why they could not have spotted this during the match. They were quick enough to look at replays of plenty other things


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    #8731
    yerrahbah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    https://munsterrugby.ie/2018/12/19/ticket-update-extra-pitchside-seating-for-exeter-clash/

    Additional seating added behind the goals for the Exeter game,

    21,500 tickets sold so far.

    Hopefully it sells out


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