Journalism and cycling

Hurrache · 12-12-2018 09:29PM

Templemore fresher Garda shenanigans

https://twitter.com/Cianmm/status/1072845968863842304?s=19

Muahahaha · 12-12-2018 10:38PM

In fairness the Garda couldnt have known the bus broke the light as he was standing the far side of the junction with no view of the lights

Grassey · 12-12-2018 11:06PM

Muahahaha wrote:

In fairness the Garda couldnt have known the bus broke the light as he was standing the far side of the junction with no view of the lights

That's why they are in pairs. The guy who does sees shouts to the other.

Similar thing in Blackrock this morning. Silver polo ran the red light after me, swinging up the rock road. Gard who could see the lights at frascsti side shouted at the next guy down to pull him in.

Ray Bloody Purchase · 13-12-2018 10:46AM

Grassey wrote: »

That's why they are in pairs. The guy who does sees shouts to the other.

Similar thing in Blackrock this morning. Silver polo ran the red light after me, swinging up the rock road. Gard who could see the lights at frascsti side shouted at the next guy down to pull him in.

They're doing the same at the KCR as well. They had two cars pulled in at the one time writing them up the other morning.

In a perfect world they'd be doing that all year round.

amcalester · 13-12-2018 10:48AM

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

They're doing the same at the KCR as well. They had two cars pulled in at the one time writing them up the other morning.

In a perfect world they'd be doing that all year round.

In a perfect world we'd have red light cameras.

Pinch Flat · 13-12-2018 10:53AM

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1072516208963084289

His show in fairness is The Sun of radio. Attracts people who wouldn’t be the sharpest pins in the pack.

What’s curious about the photo though is that it’s a picture of cyclists riding safely and legally, taken by what looks like someone holding a mobile phone driving which is illegal. Probably by some snowflake in their car travelling 500m to Spar for their chicken fillet roll.

Ray Bloody Purchase · 13-12-2018 10:55AM

amcalester wrote: »

In a perfect world we'd have red light cameras.

Yeah, automatic enforcement. Two taypots standing at lights trying to catch people isn't exactly optimal.

Pinch Flat · 13-12-2018 11:15AM

Or someone driving one of these

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1956-messerschmitt-kr200

13-12-2018 11:32AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1072516208963084289

His show in fairness is The Sun of radio. Attracts people who wouldn’t be the sharpest pins in the pack.

What’s curious about the photo though is that it’s a picture of cyclists riding safely and legally, taken by what looks like someone holding a mobile phone driving which is illegal. Probably by some snowflake in their car travelling 500m to Spar for their chicken fillet roll.

Wow couldn't resist reading the comments there. He really is a pathetic little troll, has he nothing better to do than reply to all those with nothing more than the level of argument a 5 year old would have.

rubadub · 13-12-2018 11:45AM

what is the first line about?

Of course cyclist don’t break laws.

it's as though he is answering some unknown people supposedly saying cyclists don't break any laws. Not sure who is saying this or what he is reading. Reminds me of the poster in the other thread who was seemignly hallucinating and seeing people condoning cycling without lights.

zell12 · 13-12-2018 03:27PM

DailyMail - Glasgow motorist yells at cyclist that he CAN drive safely while using his mobile phone... only to crash into the back of a car moments later

What Username Guidelines · 13-12-2018 03:35PM

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Glasgow motorist yells at cyclist that he CAN drive safely while using his mobile phone... only to crash into the back of a car moments later

On one hand the cyclist probably shouldn't bother trying to enforce the law, but god knows I've been pissed off and tried it myself. On the other hand it was an absolutely lovely bit of karma for someone who said they can drive just fine while using their phone (i.e. distracted)

And as expected, the comments are all jumping to the defence of the driver as the cyclist distracted him. Never read the bottom half of the internet.

TheChizler · 13-12-2018 03:36PM

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail - Glasgow motorist yells at cyclist that he CAN drive safely while using his mobile phone... only to crash into the back of a car moments later

Two eejits there.

Grassey · 13-12-2018 06:08PM

Paul corcoran and conor faughnan on matt Cooper there a few mins ago. CF fairly anti the NTA bus connect plans for cycle provision.

Grassey · 13-12-2018 06:48PM

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/13/cyclists-exposed-to-less-air-pollution-than-drivers-on-congested-routes-study

Cyclists are the least exposed to air pollution on daily commutes into a congested city centre, research has shown. People in cars and buses spent longer in toxic air, as did walkers unless they made detours to avoid main roads.

The work, conducted in Leeds, supports the investment in cycle lanes to both reduce air pollution by cutting vehicle journeys and improve citizens’ health. It also found that air pollution reached relatively high levels inside cars, echoing a recent warning that cars are “boxes collecting toxic gases”.

magicbastarder · 13-12-2018 06:50PM

this kinda contradicts the headline:

Cyclists may breathe more rapidly as they exercise, which would bring the particles they inhale up to close to that of motorised transport users. But on routes with slow traffic, where car and bus commuters are forced to sit in clouds of pollution, cyclists fare best.

coward · 13-12-2018 06:57PM

So a big +1 for e-bikes as you do less huffing and puffing, right!? :P
Unless, of course, you are fit and don't need to breathe more rapidly anyway.

Tell me how · 13-12-2018 07:01PM

Grassey wrote: »

Paul corcoran and conor faughnan on matt Cooper there a few mins ago. CF fairly anti the NTA bus connect plans for cycle provision.

Does he think they are not going far enough? Or that they are impeding motor traffic too much?

Thought he was always fairly sensible.

Grassey · 13-12-2018 07:08PM

Tell me how wrote:

Does he think they are not going far enough? Or that they are impeding motor traffic too much?

That they leave cyclists too exposed at junctions where they should be protected/segregated. Removing them from rathmines was mad, diverting cyclists for an extra km or 2 won't work etc

Got the feeling he agrees that motorists will need to give way to bus priority.

Tell me how · 13-12-2018 07:12PM

Yeah, I don't have a problem with him influencing traffic planning considerations.

He's fairly pragmatic.

Seth Brundle · 13-12-2018 07:14PM

Grassey wrote: »

CF fairly anti the NTA bus connect plans for cycle provision.

That's his job though.

Grassey · 13-12-2018 07:47PM

Seth Brundle wrote:

That's his job though.

He acknowledged that private motorist journeys would increase in part due to no viable alternative provision, which is why he was supportive of the bus connects. He didn't agree with the standard of the proposed cycle lanes saying that it falls far short of copenhagen/netherlands in its ambitions and proposed implementation.

Was very very balanced I thought.

13-12-2018 08:40PM

I recall someone here mentioning before CF was a cyclist himself I think.

magicbastarder · 13-12-2018 08:50PM

he is, a commuting cyclist IIRC.

mr spuckler · 13-12-2018 09:09PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

he is, a commuting cyclist IIRC.

sometimes he comes across very reasonable and supportive on cycling related matters and sometimes not so much.

Tell me how · 13-12-2018 09:17PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

sometimes he comes across very reasonable and supportive on cycling related matters and sometimes not so much.

Think it's best to take the good with the bad. Be unfair to say about someone that they are right and should be listened to 80% of the time but I'm going to discount their opinion the other times.

mr spuckler · 13-12-2018 09:28PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Think it's best to take the good with the bad. Be unfair to say about someone that they are right and should be listened to 80% of the time but I'm going to discount their opinion the other times.

I don't disagree with that bit as regards anyone.

on the second I'm not sure how you've interpreted that from what I said. I don't find him consistent in how he discusses the topic, that doesn't mean I'm selective about how I agree with him, it means that my opinion is that he can be selective about how he approaches the subject.

Arcade_Tryer · 13-12-2018 09:31PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Think it's best to take the good with the bad. Be unfair to say about someone that they are right and should be listened to 80% of the time but I'm going to discount their opinion the other times.

The issue is probably more so that people are ultimately not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Hence their credibility is reduced.

Tell me how · 13-12-2018 09:32PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

I don't disagree with that bit as regards anyone.

on the second I'm not sure how you've interpreted that from what I said. I don't find him consistent in how he discusses the topic, that doesn't mean I'm selective about how I agree with him, it means that my opinion is that he can be selective about how he approaches the subject.

I'm not talking about you per say. I'm suggesting (particularly when people are discussing cycling or cyclists behaviour or cycling infrastructure) that we often tend to listen to the part we agree with but discount that we don't without fairly considering if we could benefit from doing so.

Corca Baiscinn · 13-12-2018 10:26PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

sometimes he comes across very reasonable and supportive on cycling related matters and sometimes not so much.

Very true, his tone is generally sweetly reasonable but what he says is often outrageous, eg his attribution of bad faith to Dublin City Council and Eoin Keegan over 30 kph speed limits. (He's right re signs alone not being enough though)

Twice on radio I've heard him use the differing speed limits at the beginning and the end of the N4 as an example of stupid speed limit inconsistency without acknowledging that the Dublin/Kildare section, Lucan/Leixlip etc is in a built up area with much more traffic and junctions whereas the Sligo end is rural and sparsely populated. Granted the section with the white crosses is dangerous because of bends/numerous junctions)

He was downright rude to Ciaran Cuffe in another interview but conspiratorially pally with Pat Kenny.

AA also lobbied for higher speed limits on some arterial roads in Dub so when listening to Conor we need to remember that he works for an outfit whose remit and income comes from motorists.

Haven't had a chance to listen to Matt Cooper yet but if Conor spoke up for cyclists great!

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