Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

01-11-2018 01:01PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

This is hilarious.

People just lie and refuse to engage and then throw around labels. It's faux debate. I don't get it. Sums up the mentality, really. Absolutely baseless.

The Bishop Basher · 01-11-2018 01:01PM

I can honestly say I’d close my pub.

It’s obvious to all why you can’t give a straight answer to that question.

You’re position is completely hypocritical no matter which way you turn it.

You can’t come back from that.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:02PM

Omackeral wrote: »

We also answer questions usually but I digress

No , that doesn't happen actually.

People don't post hypothetical questions at people when they frankly are looking for rhetorical answers.

Its a transparent exercise in trying to catch people out.

I've already stated many times i spent my early years ejecting traveller kids from retail shops.

But sure you wont bother reading the thread because you just leaped back in today.

The outrage is strong in this one.

01-11-2018 01:03PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

English is the third language of the majority of my students and they grasp basic grammar, but you know - it's not worth a sanction and ban so I withdraw my comment.

I only ever call it out when they say "your stupid" or tell you to go back to school or things along those lines. Irony and all that.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-11-2018 01:03PM

listermint wrote: »

Wait, no stop.

I thought this was new subject matter.

Something people didnt talk about.

Something that Casey raised up and that was being supressed.

now everyone agrees we discuss it all the time.

Which is it, You lads are tripping over your own outrage.

Discussed all the time in pseudonymous posts on a forum is not the same as the media.

Ireland’s media, like most, represents the attitudes of people employed by that media and the vast majority are from the upper middle classes.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:04PM

Omackeral wrote: »

I only ever call it out when they say "your stupid" or tell you to go back to school or things along those lines. Irony and all that.

Who called you stupid? Any more clarity on that?

And who told you to go back to school.

I think you will find it was yourself and the previous poster that told me to go back to school, because you are acting the big lad pointing out grammatical errors.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:06PM

Rennaws wrote: »

I can honestly say I’d close my pub.

It’s obvious to all why you can’t give a straight answer to that question.

You’re position is completely hypocritical no matter which way you turn it.

You can’t come back from that.

I dont own a pub.

I cant give you a straight answer.

I can only give a straight answer to something that applies to me.

Like a previous poster who asked would i have a halting site built near me.

I have two.

This applies to me.

I can bring anyone to show them if they'd like not a problem. However i dont know the families in them because they dont mix with me, nor i with them

PlaneSpeeking · 01-11-2018 01:07PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Discussed all the time in pseudonymous posts on a forum is not the same as the media.

Ireland’s media, like most, represents the attitudes of people employed by that media and the vast majority are from the upper middle classes.

I imagine the majority of the people working in the Irish media read a Ross O'Carroll Kelly book and are convinced it's real and about them.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-11-2018 01:07PM

listermint wrote: »

Hypotheical questions are utterly moronic.

If i said yeah of course id open 'my' pub, Then youd be all like 'your a liar' 'go pull the other one you big liar'

If i said i dont have a pub , then you call me a copout.

So i say, Go back to the school yard because that is the level of debate your bringing.

There.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:07PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Discussed all the time in pseudonymous posts on a forum is not the same as the media.

Ireland’s media, like most, represents the attitudes of people employed by that media and the vast majority are from the upper middle classes.

Do you know any journalists?

Any that i know, i actually went to school with 2. They are actually like me from a working class area. Yet they are now elites! nice to know , i must contact them both to tell them of their new found status.

01-11-2018 01:07PM

listermint wrote: »

No , that doesn't happen actually.

People don't post hypothetical questions at people when they frankly are looking for rhetorical answers.

Its a transparent exercise in trying to catch people out.

I've already stated many times i spent my early years ejecting traveller kids from retail shops.

But sure you wont bother reading the thread because you just leaped back in today.

The outrage is strong in this one.

Another classic tactic, claim outrage!

I've been here the last couple of days btw and always answer any question put to me. I'm not afraid to be wrong and have admitted to same on here previously. You're not that special that I recall your posts from memory. I can't see why you wouldn't just say "I'd have no bother opening my pub" or "I'd close my pub". Instead you whinge about being asked questions.... on a forum.

The Bishop Basher · 01-11-2018 01:08PM

listermint wrote: »

I dont own a pub.

I cant give you a straight answer.

I can only give a straight answer to something that applies to me.

Like a previous poster who asked would i have a halting site built near me.

I have two.

This applies to me.

I can bring anyone to show them if they'd like not a problem. However i dont know the families in them because they dont mix with me, nor i with them

Listen to yourself

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:09PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

There.

I think its self evident what that line means. It does not mean go back to school to better your education because you are stupid - something which you and that other poster implied about me.

It means the level of debate you are using would be used in a school yard.

i.e 'my da is bigger than your da'

I would actually garner that you knew that. But you know i could be wrong.....

Deebles McBeebles · 01-11-2018 01:10PM

Typical AH, all this outrage and right wing, non-PC leanings....

...said anyone who doesn't like the argument, ever.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-11-2018 01:10PM

Rennaws wrote: »

Listen to yourself

So the job interview I went to the other week that asked "where will you be in five years" and "can you tell us what you would do if a postgraduate student wanted to offer a bribe ?"

I should have said "they are hypothetical questions and do not reflect my reality so I cannot answer you".

I would in me hoop!!

01-11-2018 01:11PM

listermint wrote: »

And who told you to go back to school.

This eejit here did;

listermint wrote: »

So i say, Go back to the school yard because that is the level of debate your bringing.

listermint wrote: »

you are acting the big lad pointing out grammatical errors.

As I said, I enjoyed the irony. Only reason I said mentioned it.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:11PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Another classic tactic, claim outrage!

I've been here the last couple of days btw and always answer any question put to me. I'm not afraid to be wrong and have admitted to same on here previously. You're not that special that I recall your posts from memory. I can't see why you wouldn't just say "I'd have no bother opening my pub" or "I'd close my pub". Instead you whinge about being asked questions.... on a forum.

I dont have a pub!

Christ lads, if i had a pub im sure then i would know what level of business or lack of i would be willing to accept.

And that includes trade to various customers.

Alas i dont have a pub, So therefore i do not have the facility to answer such a question.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:12PM

Omackeral wrote: »

This eejit here did;

As I said, I enjoyed the irony. Only reason I said mentioned it.

I replied to that above, have a perusal at your leisure

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:13PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Typical AH, all this outrage and right wing, non-PC leanings....

...said anyone who doesn't like the argument, ever.

Weird because the only outrage here is directed at me for 'not answering' a hypothetical question, that i keep answering.

Argghhhh angry mob , shakes fist...

01-11-2018 01:14PM

listermint wrote: »

I dont own a pub.

Yes, we gathered that. You are familiar with the concept of a hypothetical question though? Maybe not.

listermint wrote: »

I cant give you a straight answer.

At least you admit it.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-11-2018 01:14PM

listermint wrote: »

Weird because the only outrage here is directed at me for 'not answering' a hypothetical question, that i keep answering.

Argghhhh angry mob , shakes fist...

I thought you couldn't answer it as you don't have a pub ?

nullzero · 01-11-2018 01:15PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Typical AH, all this outrage and right wing, non-PC leanings....

...said anyone who doesn't like the argument, ever.

I had somebody on another thread say that boards "isn't safe to post on" when the argument was getting away from them.

If you want a safe space stay in university for life, there you can cry foul of differing opinions, joining a publicly accessible forum is like going from hitting a punching bag to going into the ring against somebody who can hit back.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:15PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Yes, we gathered that. You are familiar with the concept of a hypothetical question though? Maybe not.

At least you admit it.

Why are you replacing words in a post?

Does that make you feel like you've won something ?

nullzero · 01-11-2018 01:16PM

listermint wrote: »

I dont have a pub!

Christ lads, if i had a pub im sure then i would know what level of business or lack of i would be willing to accept.

And that includes trade to various customers.

Alas i dont have a pub, So therefore i do not have the facility to answer such a question.

Do you have empathy?

SafeSurfer · 01-11-2018 01:16PM

listermint wrote: »

Nice little turn of words there from you.

Il tell you why there was no articles on him 'ahead of the election' because he was a nobody tv dragans den personality.

Then he said some controversial comments, not to impact some mass social change but to rile up a small group of people (your riled, this thread is evidence) Then of course he got lots of articles pro and con his points. Go find them if you want they are all over the place.

This nonsense sells papers. Oooo controversy. Oooo so edgey. It gets clicks and debates and airtime. Thats what the media thrive on. No they dont thrive on supressing hot topics.

anyone that believes that doesnt have a notion as to how the media generates its money.

Suppression, Laughed at lads. Laughed.... at.

So to summarise, you can’t support the point you made about “plenty of pro Casey” pieces with any evidence?

You searched for links to support your claims, found none and came back with this drivel.

Would that be a fair assessment?

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:16PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I thought you couldn't answer it as you don't have a pub ?

But i did answer,

You do know what answer means, dont you?

It does not mean 'yes and no' are the only answers i will respect.

Deebles McBeebles · 01-11-2018 01:18PM

listermint wrote: »

Weird because the only outrage here is directed at me for 'not answering' a hypothetical question, that i keep answering.

Argghhhh angry mob , shakes fist...

Gas isn't it.

listermint · 01-11-2018 01:19PM

nullzero wrote: »

Do you have empathy?

Actually i scored very highly on the Clifton Strengths assessment for empathy,

Perhaps that explains how i am able to examine the facts about sections of society rather than follow the angry mob of outrage?

I don't know, what are your thoughts on my empathy levels ?

PlaneSpeeking · 01-11-2018 01:21PM

I think it's time to unfollow - the ban just ain't worth it lads!

Keep the faith!

nullzero · 01-11-2018 01:21PM

listermint wrote: »

Actually i scored very highly on the Clifton Strengths assessment for empathy,

Perhaps that explains how i am able to examine the facts about sections of society rather than follow the angry mob of outrage?

I don't know, what are your thoughts on my empathy levels ?

So you can put yourself in somebody elses shoes?
Say hypothetically the shoes of a publican...

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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