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Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    Whilst traveller crime is a huge issue in rural Ireland what about 98% of the traveller population getting away with not working ... and expect others to provide for them .... travellers with 8 or 9 children are way better off than many houses where both parents work .

    Maybe we should all become travellers and not work ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    More Casey bashing in the media this morning. An anti truth article in the Irish Examiner and an article by a Chinese lady in the Journal saying that she couldn’t sleep with anxiety before the outcome of the presidential election was known, for fear of Casey, “a man who spouted a tirade of hate” winning. She contrasted this with waiting for the result of the 8th Amendment referendum where she was giddy with excitement of the outcome.

    Yet again our free media who should be champions of free speech only see value in diversity of race, sexuality, gender but simply can not tolerate any diversity of opinion.

    The consistent theme is that the opinions of no voters in the abortion referendum were wrong and similarly the opinions of Casey voters are wrong. They are deviant views that must be corrected by endless one sided media re education pieces.

    In the interests of equality and diversity will the Journal.ie publish an opinion piece from someone who voted for Casey?

    I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    More Casey bashing in the media this morning. An anti truth article in the Irish Examiner and an article by a Chinese lady in the Journal saying that she couldn’t sleep with anxiety before the outcome of the presidential election was known, for fear of Casey, “a man who spouted a tirade of hate” winning. She contrasted this with waiting for the result of the 8th Amendment referendum where she was giddy with excitement of the outcome.

    Yet again our free media who should be champions of free speech only see value in diversity of race, sexuality, gender but simply can not tolerate any diversity of opinion.

    The consistent theme is that the opinions of no voters in the abortion referendum were wrong and similarly the opinions of Casey voters are wrong. They are deviant views that must be corrected by endless one sided media re education pieces.

    In the interests of equality and diversity will the Journal.ie publish an opinion piece from someone who voted for Casey?

    I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    I have actually been told "free speech doesn't mean you are free to express whatever you want. People might disagree with your view".

    Yeah it kinda does! And that's the point - they are free to disagree!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,464 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    More Casey bashing in the media this morning. An anti truth article in the Irish Examiner and an article by a Chinese lady in the Journal saying that she couldn’t sleep with anxiety before the outcome of the presidential election was known, for fear of Casey, “a man who spouted a tirade of hate” winning. She contrasted this with waiting for the result of the 8th Amendment referendum where she was giddy with excitement of the outcome.

    Yet again our free media who should be champions of free speech only see value in diversity of race, sexuality, gender but simply can not tolerate any diversity of opinion.

    The consistent theme is that the opinions of no voters in the abortion referendum were wrong and similarly the opinions of Casey voters are wrong. They are deviant views that must be corrected by endless one sided media re education pieces.

    In the interests of equality and diversity will the Journal.ie publish an opinion piece from someone who voted for Casey?

    I wouldn’t hold my breath.


    More interesting would be someone like myself who voted to repeal the 8th and voted for casey, to give balance to the nonsense from the chinese woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭tigger123


    ELM327 wrote: »
    More interesting would be someone like myself who voted to repeal the 8th and voted for casey, to give balance to the nonsense from the chinese woman.

    What relevance is it that she's originally from China?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    The Chinese are building huge camps to contain and re educate Muslims. They have denied this( as always) but the compounds are on google maps. No one knows whats going on in these holding bays but its probably not pleasant.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/31/uk-believes-china-has-interned-about-1-million-uighur-muslims

    Then you have this wannabee politican criticising Irish people, would the combined Green party even poll as many votes as Peter Casey. They are a non entity and you can see from her silly article why.

    Get out Hazel into the real world and go and visit Rathkeale. Go to Tipperary and visit the brand new houses your good looking tax was used for, they are sitting there empty while the people they were intended for live on an unauthorised campsite across the road. I am beginning to think the travellers concerned dont want houses at all, with owning and renting a house comes responsibility. How do people living in unauthorised encampments on the road pay for electricity and refuse disposal, does the council foot the bill for this.

    Does anyone know who owns the land the travellers are camped on, would they have adverse possession of it or could the council build more houses on it for people on the list if it was vacated.

    Its articles written by the likes of Hazelnut that rile people up and if you rile enough people enough and then they are just ignored and their concerns reduced to racism you will set off a chain of events that may be unstoppable. There is no way those three hundred thousand people who voted for Casey and going to sit back now and take anymore of what led them to vote en masse, if action isnt seen to be taken now these people will establish their own law and order unit and this will lead to fatalities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,664 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    More Casey bashing in the media this morning. An anti truth article in the Irish Examiner and an article by a Chinese lady in the Journal saying that she couldn’t sleep with anxiety before the outcome of the presidential election was known, for fear of Casey, “a man who spouted a tirade of hate” winning. She contrasted this with waiting for the result of the 8th Amendment referendum where she was giddy with excitement of the outcome.

    Yet again our free media who should be champions of free speech only see value in diversity of race, sexuality, gender but simply can not tolerate any diversity of opinion.

    The consistent theme is that the opinions of no voters in the abortion referendum were wrong and similarly the opinions of Casey voters are wrong. They are deviant views that must be corrected by endless one sided media re education pieces.

    In the interests of equality and diversity will the Journal.ie publish an opinion piece from someone who voted for Casey?

    I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    Would he Journal view an attack on an elderly farming couple by travellers in the middle of the night as racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I actually dont get the outrage?

    ive seen plenty of opinion pieces pro casey.

    It feels like there is a bunch of people being selective here. And just like in the US are pretending that they are being surpressed by some closet bogey man.


    Oh yeah, its the media again . grrrrr journalists ..


    No one is surpressing you, No one is after your thoughts.

    I have no particular notions of 'pc' gone mad, but i do see alot of people that are selectively outraged across the board. And need to bloody grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,464 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    ELM327 wrote: »
    More interesting would be someone like myself who voted to repeal the 8th and voted for casey, to give balance to the nonsense from the chinese woman.
    tigger123 wrote: »
    What relevance is it that she's originally from China?


    Please tell me what liberal approved term is allowed to describe people from China, if Chinese is not allowed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Would he Journal view an attack on an elderly farming couple by travellers in the middle of the night as racist?
    There would appear to be more evidence of the travellers behaving bigoted / racist to people they see as not like themselves .

    Travellers are definitely Homophobic . How do they get on with other races ? They are a very closed society .

    Peter Casey has opened a Great Debate . Thank you Peter Casey .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    tigger123 wrote: »
    What relevance is it that she's originally from China?

    She brought it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    blinding wrote: »
    There would appear to be more evidence of the travellers behaving bigoted / racist to people they see as not like themselves .

    Travellers are definitely Homophobic . How do they get on with other races ? They are a very closed society .

    Peter Casey has opened a Great Debate . Thank you Peter Casey .

    Peter Casey opened nothing.

    Are you new to boards?

    'this debate' has been going on since the internet started. high point being the McNally case.

    Its actually frightening you think Casey is a messiah and opened our eyes...


    We have traveller threads every 2 weeks, long before that lad pretended he was coming back from the states to live on this island


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    listermint wrote: »
    Peter Casey opened nothing.

    Are you new to boards?

    'this debate' has been going on since the internet started. high point being the McNally case.

    Its actually frightening you think Casey is a messiah and opened our eyes...


    We have traveller threads every 2 weeks, long before that lad pretended he was coming back from the states to live on this island

    Yes or no - a traveller christening is planned for tomorrow in your town, do you go the pub or not ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yes or no - a traveller christening is planned for tomorrow in your town, do you go the pub or not ?

    1- I dont go to church, grew out of all that stuff
    2- I dont get a chance to go to the pub as i have a young child and i am presently engaged in refurbishing my entire house solo. So i wish i had the time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Yes or no - a traveller christening is planned for tomorrow in your town, do you go the pub or not ?
    Good chance if you are a Garda or maybe a Firefighter ...... in a professional capacity :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    listermint wrote: »
    1- I dont go to church, grew out of all that stuff
    2- I dont get a chance to go to the pub as i have a young child and i am presently engaged in refurbishing my entire house solo. So i wish i had the time.

    You own the pub. All the others are closing. Do you open ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    listermint wrote: »
    1- I dont go to church, grew out of all that stuff
    2- I dont get a chance to go to the pub as i have a young child and i am presently engaged in refurbishing my entire house solo. So i wish i had the time.

    Hahaha what an utter copout!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Time Niall got his own RTE show enough BS from D4 snowflakes on scandalous wages

    That is actually a fantastic idea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yes or no - a traveller christening is planned for tomorrow in your town, do you go the pub or not ?

    even if you wanted to go to the pub it's usually not an option for you

    We had a traveller funeral in the town that I work in two weeks ago

    The guards went around before hand to all the pubs in town to tell them about the funeral

    Every single one closed on mass

    All the pub owners are prob 'racist' to some but in reality they just didn't want the chance of their business being smashed to pieces


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    even if you wanted to go to the pub it's usually not an option for you

    We had a traveller funeral in the town that I work in two weeks ago

    The guards went around before hand to all the pubs in town to tell them about the funeral

    Every single one closed on mass

    All the pub owners are prob 'racist' to some but in reality they just didn't want the chance of their business being smashed to pieces

    Same here, I'm down the country and you can tell when the pubs stay shut!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Jackman25 wrote: »
    Agreed. Martin Collins could learn a lot from him. He was very measured, unlike the usual antagonism from PP.

    Martin Collins is only co director of PP.
    It means someone else has the hand out with him for the government sponsored wages that go with the job of representing the traveller groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    listermint wrote: »
    Peter Casey opened nothing.

    Are you new to boards?

    'this debate' has been going on since the internet started. high point being the McNally case.

    Its actually frightening you think Casey is a messiah and opened our eyes...


    We have traveller threads every 2 weeks, long before that lad pretended he was coming back from the states to live on this island

    No one thinks Casey is the messiah, he's probably a very naughty boy. He said something no one in power will though, that the people Leo promised to help have gotten nothing. Every scheme they put in place just helps landlords and ups house prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    listermint wrote: »
    1- I dont go to church, grew out of all that stuff
    2- I dont get a chance to go to the pub as i have a young child and i am presently engaged in refurbishing my entire house solo. So i wish i had the time.

    How Jesuitical :P


    The takeaway from the whole casey thing is the way the media rounded on him for daring to voice such an opinion and the resulting huge increase in support for him. He had the nerve to weather the storm (not being able to withdraw might have helped :) )and he reaped the rewards for not backing down.

    That's what happens when you try to suppress debate. Will they learn the lesson? Will they f**k :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    NIMAN wrote: »
    How can someone born in Dublin (for example) from white, Irish parents be a different race to another person born in Dublin to white, Irish parents?

    Its pure bollox this travellers ethnic group. We have a bunch of clowns entertaining this idea. The travellers need to start looking at themselves before pushing out this ethnic group crap and pointing the finger at society and systems etc. How many of these people who ride on the traveller wagon would like one of them living beside them. Feck all I'd say and that really says it all. Nobody want them with all the baggage and crap that comes with them. This is the truth of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    How was this woman up all night with worry over the outcome of the presidential election when the result was a foregone conclusion?
    The exit poles were indicating a landslide for Michael D, it was never a race to the finish line at all.

    Oh hang on, could she possibly be talking out of her backside, for money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Well supposedly Ciara Kelly, Michael D Higgins, Joan Freeman, Liadh Ní Riada, Sean Gallagher and Gavin Dunne would have no problems with travellers living beside them

    I'd love to test that theory with brand new halting sites next door to all of them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Redneck Culchie


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    A friend said they were going to vote for #PeterCasey for #Aras18 saying that he was right about Political Correctness getting out of hand. I couldn't help myself and said 'Well if we're not being PC then I'm just a chink & you're just a bigoted pr%@k'. *Silence* #aras2018

    The Journal have given this Green Party candidate an opinion piece on the election

    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/hazel-chu-election-peter-casey-ireland-4313302-Nov2018/

    Strange they actually left the comments open for once
    Unsurprising that a looney tune like that got a full free opinion piece and campaign advert on the Journal.ie. It's really become a cesspit of far left and radical feminist garbage. Only have to read their Daily Edge section to see that. They also seem to have a 90% female snowflake staff at this point, so not surprised this green party person got her rant in.

    Anyway its actually a good thing, green party are hated in rural Ireland . They only have a presence in D4 liberal areas. This just reinforces to everyone else how out of touch they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 946 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    listermint wrote: »
    blinding wrote: »
    There would appear to be more evidence of the travellers behaving bigoted / racist to people they see as not like themselves .

    Travellers are definitely Homophobic . How do they get on with other races ? They are a very closed society .

    Peter Casey has opened a Great Debate . Thank you Peter Casey .

    Peter Casey opened nothing.

    Are you new to boards?

    'this debate' has been going on since the internet started. high point being the McNally case.

    Its actually frightening you think Casey is a messiah and opened our eyes...


    We have traveller threads every 2 weeks, long before that lad pretended he was coming back from the states to live on this island
    Jeez, I wonder why we have Traveller threads every two weeks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Is the answer 'racism'?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 946 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    No its not.


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