Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

bloodless_coup · 31-10-2018 07:30PM

Ivan got a good dig in on Richie about Off The Ball righteousness while doing that handover.

redbuck · 31-10-2018 09:06PM

doylefe wrote: »

Ivan got a good dig in on Richie about Off The Ball righteousness while doing that handover.

What was said?

NIMAN · 31-10-2018 09:52PM

Whatever happened the whole Cora Staunton saga?

Is it ever mentioned these days?

Tell me how · 31-10-2018 10:42PM

doylefe wrote:

Ivan got a good dig in on Richie about Off The Ball righteousness while doing that handover.

redbuck wrote:

What was said?

Richie said they'd be discussing doping findings in under age in South Africa.

Ivan commented something like "oh I bet your against that".

Ivan always gives Richie a hard time, because it's easy to do it.

Tell me how · 31-10-2018 10:45PM

NIMAN wrote:

Whatever happened the whole Cora Staunton saga?

Is it ever mentioned these days?

Went quiet everywhere. OTB, The GAA Hour etc. I too thought it would come up again with Cora's book but it has died away.

bloodless_coup · 01-11-2018 09:19AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Richie said they'd be discussing doping findings in under age in South Africa.

Ivan commented something like "oh I bet your against that".

Ivan always gives Richie a hard time, because it's easy to do it.

He also said "keep up the righteousness" sarcastically.

anthonyjmaher · 01-11-2018 09:52AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Whatever happened the whole Cora Staunton saga? Is it ever mentioned these days?

It turned out that Off The Ball backed the wrong horse. And they have pretty much buried the story since them. Pretty pathetic tbh. They should have fully apologised live on air to the Mayo management.

Tell me how · 01-11-2018 09:54AM

anthonyjmaher wrote:

It turned out that Off The Ball backed the wrong horse. And they have pretty much buried the story since them. Pretty pathetic tbh. They should have fully apologised live on air to the Mayo management.

Why did Wooly drop it too oh wise one?

Faugheen · 01-11-2018 11:29AM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

It turned out that Off The Ball backed the wrong horse. And they have pretty much buried the story since them. Pretty pathetic tbh. They should have fully apologised live on air to the Mayo management.

Wooly’s dropped it too as if it didn’t happen, so I look forward to your calls for him to apologise to the footballers involved.

Or, like I said a few weeks back, both of them gave extreme sides to the story when reality is it was something somewhere in the middle.

ThunbergsAreGo · 01-11-2018 11:34AM

Faugheen wrote: »

Wooly’s dropped it too as it didn’t happen, so I look forward to your calls for him to apologise to the footballers involved.

Or, like I said a few weeks back, both of them gave extreme sides to the story when reality is it was something somewhere in the middle.

When did the reality come out?

Tell me how · 01-11-2018 11:42AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

When did the reality come out?

There is no reality. Only subjective opinions.

But, interesting that both shows (Off the Ball and The GAA Hour) were very vocal on the topic and then it disappeared entirely.

Carnacon were originally thrown out of the Mayo championship (after a 30-2 vote) at a Ladies county board meeting. The players involved were then suspended for 8 weeks (which would have meant they missed the remainder of this years championship) They appealed, and their suspensions were halved, they returned for the semi and the final.

They won the final. 9-10 to 0-4 (no typo). It was their 19th Mayo title in a row.

I wonder how much of this stemmed from a dislike of their dominance within Mayo Ladies football?

Faugheen · 01-11-2018 11:49AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

When did the reality come out?

When people developed common sense.

What has happened in this thread is people immediately called the footballers liars when the manager gave his (one) side of the story.

Yet there was never a question of maybe the manager was lying. People believed him straight away and Wooly became a man of the people.

Colm Parkinson is a bitter contrarian who thinks he’s better than he actually is. He backed the management horse to stick it to OTB because he decided to leave them 2 years ago.

Nowadays he has nothing to say but a lot of people here only question why OTB has dropped it, I wonder why that is?

ThunbergsAreGo · 01-11-2018 12:08PM

Well it is the OTB thread?

Faugheen · 01-11-2018 12:18PM

naughtb4 wrote: »

Well it is the OTB thread?

Why was everyone talking about Colm Parkinson like he was some sort of hero in this thread when he no longer works for OTB then?

If people are going to be taken seriously, provide balance in your arguments. People were ready to wave a stick at OTB for going quiet on this when the same people supporting Wooly pretended as if he hadn't gone quiet as well.

Where's the stick waving in his direction? There is none. Which is my point.

Someone said OTB should apologise to the management for no reason other than it's gone quiet, so if that's the case should Wooly apologise to the players since he's done the same?

Tell me how · 01-11-2018 12:30PM

Faugheen wrote:

Someone said OTB should apologise to the management for no reason other than it's gone quiet, so if that's the case should Wooly apologise to the players since he's done the same?

I asked the question of that poster. I don't expect an answer.

It's the case in virtually every thread about a person, TV show, radio show, celebrity on Boards (and I presume wider internet).

Many who comment do so to suggest the person at the centre of whatever the show is is terrible. We have an incredible capacity to be negative towards others, particularly when anonymous or with the www is between us and them.

I think it stems from a self confidence thing. I think some get their kicks from being in a position to cast judgement on others.

Look at this thread, constant comments about how bad the show and individual presenters are and yet when they won 1st, 2nd and 3rd in sports broadcaster of the year recent awards on national radio, no comments congratulating them or saying it was well deserved.

But if/when their numbers drop, the thread will be full of "I told you so's".

I comment quite frequently defending the show and saying how much I enjoy it and am told I must work on it or for newstalk.

Faugheen · 01-11-2018 12:34PM

I just like when people give out about the show yet continue to listen to it, and then wonder how it hasn't lost listeners.

Tell me how · 01-11-2018 12:43PM

Faugheen wrote:

I just like when people give out about the show yet continue to listen to it, and then wonder how it hasn't lost listeners.

They probably don't listen to it.
They probably hear a 5/6 minute article once every couple of weeks and deduce from that exactly what the show is like, why it's failing and why other shows with smaller listenerships are better.

Disagreeing/disliking something is fine. When you back it up and discuss it.
(That's what discussion is)

Imhof Tank · 01-11-2018 01:41PM

Sorry to break up the luv in lads but for your information OTB are being criticised for ghosting the Mayo ladies story because the court of public opinion has ruled in favour of the management. OTB got it completely wrong from day 1, or backed the wrong horse as said by someone above. They should acknowledge that.

Parkinson called it right and has nothing to apologise for. If he kept milking it he'd be accused of gloating.

Faugheen · 01-11-2018 02:12PM

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Sorry to break up the luv in lads but for your information OTB are being criticised for ghosting the Mayo ladies story because the court of public opinion has ruled in favour of the management. OTB got it completely wrong from day 1, or backed the wrong horse as said by someone above. They should acknowledge that.

Parkinson called it right and has nothing to apologise for. If he kept milking it he'd be accused of gloating.

How do you know they backed the wrong horse? Because Colm Parkinson said so?

Do you not realise how ridiculous that sounds?

Why were Carnacon as a club thrown out of the Championship because of the actions of a few? Why were they then reinstated and the suspensions of those few halved?

Does that not suggest to you that management weren't as rosy as they claimed to be?

As I've said, something went on here. It might not be as bad as the players made out but I'm full sure that it wasn't just 'nothing' like the manager told Wooly (who didn't even challenge him) made it out to be.

The fact the Mayo Ladies county board released a statement before listening to the statement read out by the players made the entire situation a ****-show.

Tell me how · 01-11-2018 03:37PM

Imhof Tank wrote:

Sorry to break up the luv in lads but for your information OTB are being criticised for ghosting the Mayo ladies story because the court of public opinion has ruled in favour of the management. OTB got it completely wrong from day 1, or backed the wrong horse as said by someone above. They should acknowledge that.

You talk about the court of public opinion. What do you think Wooly would say about that? He's early comments on the matter were that the court of public opinion had sided with the girls and that that was a joke.
But now your perception is that same court is justifying the management.

"For your information".....

Whenever you have it please.

Dots1982 · 01-11-2018 10:03PM

There’s the weirdest pod on the highlights of off the ball feed; Nathan talking to Brian Kerr on some sort of Jameson whiskey sponsored (other whiskeys are available) event about his ireland management career...for barely 15 minutes. Utterly pointless.

RugbyLover123 · 02-11-2018 02:07PM

Surprised nobody mentioned the 10 minute segment about Brazilian politics when they had Tim Vickery on to talk about the Copa Lib. Was quite interesting actually because how he explained it but still nothing to do with football on a football show.

Tell me how · 02-11-2018 02:13PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Surprised nobody mentioned the 10 minute segment about Brazilian politics when they had Tim Vickery on to talk about the Copa Lib. Was quite interesting actually because how he explained it but still nothing to do with football on a football show.

Didn't hear it but will check it out.

Did he say if he thinks Gremio's appeal should work or why he thinks it won't.

CatFromHue · 02-11-2018 11:37PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Surprised nobody mentioned the 10 minute segment about Brazilian politics when they had Tim Vickery on to talk about the Copa Lib. Was quite interesting actually because how he explained it but still nothing to do with football on a football show.

It was great.

Chalk and cheese between it and what Ewan MacKenna had to say on the same subject on The Hard Shoulder.

gormdubhgorm · 04-11-2018 06:25PM

Tell me how wrote: »

They probably don't listen to it.
They probably hear a 5/6 minute article once every couple of weeks and deduce from that exactly what the show is like, why it's failing and why other shows with smaller listenerships are better.

Disagreeing/disliking something is fine. When you back it up and discuss it.
(That's what discussion is)

That is a real creation of a narrative if ever I saw one.
Did I used to enjoy OTB and listen to it regularly yes.
Now I do not at all as I have gradually become tired of it.

But the way you framed that post is actually very intelligent on your part.
If you listen to a 5/6 minute segment and negatively critic it, you can say oh you did not listen to the whole show.
Then if the same person listened to the whole show and still did not like it - you can say if you do not like it why are you listening to the show?

Also this excludes the reality that in this day and age people rarely listen to a whole show - if they enjoy it or not not. They can pick and chose bits on various platforms.

As for you last comment:

"Disagreeing/disliking something is fine. When you back it up and discuss it.
(That's what discussion is)"

You admitted yourself that you do not post anything negative about the show.
You only post when you hear something positive.
That is in no way shape or form what discussion is.
To me that is behaving like people who enjoy a niche you tube video and it is a group-think where everyone says how fantastic it is.

Then there are other times where you seem to play this devil's advocate persona - as shown by your post about the Mayo ladies footballers on this page - where you try and justify the unjustifiable and yet again create a positive spin for OTB. Another narrative creation with plenty of conjecture.

When I did listen to OTB - when something was good I said it was good.
When something was not good I said it.
That is discussion not someone with constant selective hearing.

I no longer listen to OTB and they have lost a listener.
It does not fit the narrative you are trying to create so you will probably put a positive spin on that as well?

Tell me how · 04-11-2018 06:36PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

That is a real creation of a narrative if ever I saw one.
Did I used to enjoy OTB and listen to it regularly yes.
Now I do not at all as I have gradually become tired of it.

But the way you framed that post is actually very intelligent on your part.
If you listen to a 5/6 minute segment and negatively critic it, you can say oh you did not listen to the whole show.
Then if the same person listened to the whole show and still did not like it - you can say if you do not like it why are you listening to the show?

Also this excludes the reality that in this day and age people rarely listen to a whole show if they enjoy it or not not.

As for you last comment:

"Disagreeing/disliking something is fine. When you back it up and discuss it.
(That's what discussion is)"

You admitted yourself that you do not post anything negative about the show.
You only post when you hear something positive.
That is in no way shape or form what discussion is.
To me that is behaving like people who enjoy a niche you tube video and it is a group-think where everyone says how fantastic it is.

Also you seem to play this devil's advocate persona as show by your post about the Mayo ladies - where you try and justify the unjustifiable and yet again create a positive spin for OTB.

When I did listen to OTB - when something was good I said it was good.
When something was not good I said it.
That is discussion not someone with constant selective hearing.

I no longer listen to OTB and they have lost a listener.
It does not fit the narrative you are trying to create so you will probably put a positive spin on that as well?

Don't want to keep you here against your will.

You are wrong in pretty much everything else by the way but thanks for saying the way I worded my post was very intelligent. I'll put you as a referee on my cv.

Tell me how · 04-11-2018 06:40PM

Kind of a funny one from last week (although not a funny topic). Richie had the pronunciation of the Leicester owner, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, who died in the helicopter crash down to a t. Said it a few times consecutively. He did follow it up though by pronouncing Pat Hoban of Dundalk as Pat Hooban which kind of undid his efforts.

OldMrBrennan83 · 04-11-2018 06:43PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Kind of a funny one from last week (although not a funny topic). Richie had the pronunciation of the Leicester owner, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, who died in the helicopter crash down to a t. Said it a few times consecutively. He did follow it up though by pronouncing Pat Hoban of Dundalk as Pat Hooban which kind of undid his efforts.

It is pronounced Hooban.

Tell me how · 04-11-2018 06:53PM

Patww79 wrote: »

It is pronounced Hooban.

Is it? In what locations? I work with a guy with that name and he is 'Hoban'

In that case full marks to Richie....

OldMrBrennan83 · 04-11-2018 06:55PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Is it? In what locations? I work with a guy with that name and he is 'Hoban'

In that case full marks to Richie....

I think Hoban himself was asked earlier in the season. Still sounds wrong though.

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