Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

shootermacg · 20-10-2018 11:00PM

Guess Who's Back, Back Again? JJ's Back, Tell a Friend

blackdog1 wrote: »

TOD is a big loss. I know people love Cloete but when he's not effective at the breakdown I feel he's a bit anonymous. He's not a great tackler or carrier and he's ineffective at line out. Exeter shut him down and it was quite obvious Tod was far more effective when he came on.

He is indeed a big loss, he's a tackle machine who gives 100%. I'm not sure Cloete is fully fit yet. You get that when a guy comes back from injury, it usually takes a few months until he fully ignores the injury. But make no mistake, he's a baller and a quick thinker, he'll definitely come good soon.

In saying that seven is such a specialist position because of the extra pace needed, so we really need to try to sign a replacement for Tommy ASAP. Tough position to fill, because sevens need to be like any back row, but faster.

roverjoyce · 21-10-2018 12:18AM

Buer wrote: »

It's very significant that Munster get Castres to Limerick first. A win there (as expected) and Castres will be disinterested to an extent. If Munster had to go out there first of all, it would be a very different kettle of fish.

Exeter have come up short yet again. No wins from the opening rounds; they're a really good side to watch and have come very far but they're miles from being in contention in Europe still. They lack the top end class in their squad.

I can now see Munster finishing on 22/23 points which should be enough for a home semi final.

I dont think so, Saracens and Leinster are the 2 top seeds now,
If Munster could be 5th or best runner up is the only way they'll get a home semi or play Leinster in the semi which is the same as a home semi

razorblunt · 21-10-2018 09:43AM

This is the worst take I've seen on the red card.
Yes he's a Yank, yes that's "bro" in his name, unsure if he voted for Trump ... probably did.

https://twitter.com/TheStroBro/status/1053696342516686848

salmocab · 21-10-2018 09:45AM

razorblunt wrote: »

This is the worst take I've seen on the red card.
Yes he's a Yank, yes that's "bro" in his name, unsure if he voted for Trump ... probably did.

https://twitter.com/TheStroBro/status/1053696342516686848

Is that AC Slater from saved by the bell?

Mookie Blaylock · 21-10-2018 09:54AM

razorblunt wrote: »

This is the worst take I've seen on the red card.
Yes he's a Yank, yes that's "bro" in his name, unsure if he voted for Trump ... probably did.

https://twitter.com/TheStroBro/status/1053696342516686848

That isn't what happened, but you can be sure players are looking at this and thinking about drawing fouls and penalties in the future

razorblunt · 21-10-2018 12:49PM

salmocab wrote: »

Is that AC Slater from saved by the bell?

Well his views are as backwards as AC Slater sitting on a chair.

Mr Tickle · 22-10-2018 08:34AM

Return of the JJ

The tackle situation is strange now. As i understand it, the directive now is that the tackler needs to show that they are bending at the waist to lower their shoulder height.
Cipriani stood upright and his shoulder hit scannel in the face. Scannel was leaning forward (so he's a bit lower) but not by an unreasonable amount. So by the letter of the law that's a red card.
The later incident where Carbery collided with Twelvetrees is an interesting case though. For the moment lets ignore the fact that Carbery is changing direction so twelvetrees had no time to react. Because of the height difference between the two and Carbery's low body position his head contacts with Twelvetrees' chest. in this case if the tackler had tried to bend at the waist the contact would have been a lot more dangerous (shoulder/head or head/head).
So how do you judge that?

Mookie Blaylock · 22-10-2018 08:36AM

This thread went very quiet yesterday......it's as if some of the contributors had something else to worry about?

sioda · 22-10-2018 09:06AM

A new born king to see POM POM POM POM POM

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

This thread went very quiet yesterday......it's as if some of the contributors had something else to worry about?

We were searching for Toulouse shirts 😂😂

Former Former · 22-10-2018 09:14AM

John Hayes Ligind

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

This thread went very quiet yesterday......it's as if some of the contributors had something else to worry about?

Ye Munster fellas are mad about the Strictly Come Dancing alright.

Mookie Blaylock · 22-10-2018 11:09AM

Former Former wrote: »

Ye Munster fellas are mad about the Strictly Come Dancing alright.

Don't you be dissin Anton!

Eod100 · 22-10-2018 11:46AM

''There is positive news for Keith Earls as he will look to be reintroduced to team training this week.

Tommy O’Donnell will undergo a scan today to determine the extent of the injury he sustained to his left ankle on Saturday.

Rhys Marshall was withdrawn during Saturday’s game due to a hamstring injury and will undergo a scan today and be managed by the medical department.

Dan Goggin suffered a knee injury during the game and will be seen by a specialist tomorrow.

Arno Botha will have a scan on his hand today.

Niall Scannell injured his ankle in training last week and will continue treatment with the medical department.

Jaco Taute is being managed by the medical department for knee bruising.

The following are progressing with rehabilitation: Liam O’Connor (knee), Conor Oliver (toe), Jack O’Donoghue (knee), Dave O’ Callaghan (foot), Conor Murray (neck), James Hart (knee), Chris Farrell (knee), Ronan O’Mahony (ankle), Calvin Nash (ankle).''

https://munsterrugby.ie/2018/10/22/squad-update-pre-glasgow-warriors-2/

Burkie1203 · 22-10-2018 11:49AM

Eod100 wrote: »

''There is positive news for Keith Earls as he will look to be reintroduced to team training this week.

Tommy O’Donnell will undergo a scan today to determine the extent of the injury he sustained to his left ankle on Saturday.

Rhys Marshall was withdrawn during Saturday’s game due to a hamstring injury and will undergo a scan today and be managed by the medical department.

Dan Goggin suffered a knee injury during the game and will be seen by a specialist tomorrow.

Arno Botha will have a scan on his hand today.

Niall Scannell injured his ankle in training last week and will continue treatment with the medical department.

Jaco Taute is being managed by the medical department for knee bruising.

The following are progressing with rehabilitation: Liam O’Connor (knee), Conor Oliver (toe), Jack O’Donoghue (knee), Dave O’ Callaghan (foot), Conor Murray (neck), James Hart (knee), Chris Farrell (knee), Ronan O’Mahony (ankle), Calvin Nash (ankle).''

https://munsterrugby.ie/2018/10/22/squad-update-pre-glasgow-warriors-2/

No exact details but there is 5 backrows in that list. Botha and TOD will be huge losses as Stander and PoM are gone til December now most likely

thomond2006 · 22-10-2018 12:58PM

A new born king to see POM POM POM POM POM

J Cronin, KOB, Archer, Holland, Wycherley, SOC, Cloete, Coombes;
N Cronin, Bleyendaal, Earls, Scannell, Daly, Sweetnam, Haley

Sherry, Kilcoyne, Parker, Kleyn, DOS, Mathewson, JJH, Wootton

We're down to the bare bones in the backrow.

Burkie1203 · 22-10-2018 01:12PM

Great clearout

https://twitter.com/jditommaso72/status/1054322218266750976?s=19

purpleisafruit · 22-10-2018 01:17PM

Guess Who's Back, Back Again? JJ's Back, Tell a Friend

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Great clearout

https://twitter.com/jditommaso72/status/1054322218266750976?s=19

Worse than Cipriani? :rolleyes:
Bunch of muppets! It is something that referee's do need to be stronger on though as it's often the reason for a gap appearing in a defense around the edge of a ruck

irishbucsfan · 22-10-2018 01:43PM

John Hayes Ligind

purpleisafruit wrote: »

Worse than Cipriani? :rolleyes:
Bunch of muppets! It is something that referee's do need to be stronger on though as it's often the reason for a gap appearing in a defense around the edge of a ruck

Worse than Cipriani refers to his high tackle, not the clearout

Anthracite · 22-10-2018 10:52PM

Any word on the injuries?

Burkie1203 · 23-10-2018 05:55AM

Anthracite wrote: »

Any word on the injuries?

ToD and Marshall not confirmed precisely what injury is.

Arno Botha may have a fractured/broken hand

Goggin to see knee specialist (rarely a good sign)

Brief_Lives · 23-10-2018 07:21AM

Any highlights on line? I can´t find any in the last 3 days.

Eod100 · 23-10-2018 08:09AM

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Any highlights on line? I can´t find any in the last 3 days.

Some from BT on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xuAXv5D5SY

Might be longer one here on Virgin Media player: https://www.virginmediatelevision.ie/player/show/1553/0/0/

Channel 4 might have stuff too

Mookie Blaylock · 23-10-2018 08:36AM

I have to admit, made me very happy that the Heineken cup is available FTA this year (I know it's only certain games ..but still!)

23-10-2018 08:43AM

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

I have to admit, made me very happy that the Heineken cup is available FTA this year (I know it's only certain games ..but still!)

Amen getting to watch the Munster game at home was a pleasure even if it stays at 1 game I hope they keep this

phog · 23-10-2018 08:57AM

TOD's injury update

Meanwhile, there was a positive update regarding Tommy O’Donnell’s leg injury, with x-rays confirming that the flanker did not break his leg against Gloucester as first feared, but he sustained some serious ankle damage.

kuang1 · 23-10-2018 09:00AM

Stander Up and Fight

phog wrote: »

TOD's injury update

Not necessarily good news. Sometimes a clean break can heal quicker than ligament tears, which is what it looked like to me in the slow mo.

Buer · 23-10-2018 09:12AM

Psycho Killer - "Hands Away" (Prop-Prop-Prrrroppp-Prop, Prop-Prop-Prop-Prrrrrrop-Prop)

That's very much a glass half full update. Serious ankle damage could easily be a season ending injury.

leakyboots · 23-10-2018 09:56AM

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Wonder what sort of a backrow we can field during the AIs, DOC 2.0 is injured too apparently

Buer · 23-10-2018 09:58AM

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leakyboots wrote: »

Wonder what sort of a backrow we can field during the AIs, DOC 2.0 is injured too apparently

Coombes, Cloete, Holland?

budhabob · 23-10-2018 11:14AM

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Burkie1203 wrote: »

ToD and Marshall not confirmed precisely what injury is.

Arno Botha may have a fractured/broken hand

Goggin to see knee specialist (rarely a good sign)

Botha aswell? FFS

Eod100 · 23-10-2018 11:14AM

We're a bit light for Glasgow and SA trip so..!

Munster Team Talk Thread VI - Stander Up and Fight

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