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Should old Disney movies be banned in the era of #MeToo??

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  • 18-10-2018 1:42pm
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    SharpshooterTom
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    Actresses Keira Knightley and Kristen Bell have publicly criticized old Disney films such as Snow White, Cinderella and The Little Mermaid banning their daughters from watching them because of they women are portrayed.
    Keira Knightley says she has banned her three-year-old daughter from watching Disney films whose portrayal of women she disagrees with.

    Edie Knightley Righton is not allowed to watch Cinderella or Little Mermaid.

    Knightley told Ellen DeGeneres that 1950's Cinderella "waits around for a rich guy to rescue her. Don't! Rescue yourself. Obviously!"

    She said of Little Mermaid: "I mean, the songs are great, but do not give your voice up for a man. Hello!"

    Kristen Bell, who played Disney princess Anna in Frozen, has also waded into the debate on Disney and feminism.

    She told Parenting Magazine that Snow White sends the wrong message about consent to children.

    She spoke about her daughters Lincoln, five and Delta, three and said: "Every time we close Snow White, I look at my girls and ask, 'Don't you think it's weird that Snow White didn't ask the old witch why she needed to eat the apple?

    "'Or where she got that apple?'"

    She added: "Don't you think that it's weird that the prince kisses Snow White without her permission?'

    "Because you can not kiss someone if they're sleeping!"


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45900794

    Would you ban your children from watching old Disney classics in light of the #MeToo era due to the way women are depicted in them?


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    Mean Laqueefa
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    No, its a ****ing stupid idea


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    Woke Hogan
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    I have never heard a single person genuinely suggesting old films be banned outright for portraying outdated attitudes and behaviour.


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    ohnonotgmail
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Actresses Keira Knightley and Kristen Bell have publicly criticized old Disney films such as Snow White, Cinderella and The Little Mermaid banning their daughters from watching them because of they women are portrayed.




    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45900794

    Of course there have been calls to ban many old classics from 20th century in light of the #MeToo movement in attempt to fight back against patriarchy.

    Would you say its necessary to ban old Disney classics in the #MeToo movement era and would you ban your children from watching them?


    can you link to some of these "calls to ban many old classics from 20th century in light of the #MeToo movement in attempt to fight back against patriarchy."?


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    duffman13
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    No /Close thread


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    SharpshooterTom
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    can you link to some of these "calls to ban many old classics from 20th century in light of the #MeToo movement in attempt to fight back against patriarchy."?

    Nah, it was just random folk of twitter. Although it was mainly in regards to some John Hughes 80s classics which literally glorified rape.

    I wrote that statement a bit half heartedly but I'll edit it out.


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    Mutant z
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    Perhaps we should ban the pc brigade.


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    PlaneSpeeking
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    Mutant z wrote: »
    Perhaps we should ban the pc brigade.

    #MeToo for that idea!

    According to Kristne Bell, the Handsome Prince should have let Sleeping Beauty (or Snow White - whoever) die, because he didn't have written consent for a peck ???

    ****'s sake love - try protesting Boko Harum or the mass rape of Yazidi girls and women by ISIS.

    Not a f**king cartoon. Mad wagons.


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    Brian?
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    Mutant z wrote: »
    Perhaps we should ban the pc brigade.

    I’d like to see you try, seeing as they don’t exist.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    whisky_galore
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    What a pair of Snowflake Whites.


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    Mutant z
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I’d like to see you try, seeing as they don’t exist.

    If you really believe that then you're well and truly deluded.


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    wexie
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    Mutant z wrote: »
    Perhaps we should ban the pc brigade.

    Wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to just ban Twitter?

    And no on the banning movies, fecking eejits.

    What's next? banning books? Literature? Renaissance paintings?

    What about this? Should this be banned? That lady not only has her boob out but is feeding a grown man!? And the man is her father!!!! <shock! horror! outrage!!>

    peter-paul-rubens-roman-charity.jpg

    How about this? What if, rather than randomly banning things 'some' people don't agree with, perhaps we use these things as a learning opportunity, provide some context around how things change.

    And as for Disney movies....they're Disney movies, Kiera Knightly needs to get over herself.


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    Boom_Bap
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    I was reading Sleeping Beauty with my daughter the other day.
    The Prince finds a beautiful sleeping girl and his first thought is to kiss her. I wonder if she didn't wake up what he'd do next?


    Still though, it's a f*cking FAIRY TALE


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    Harry Palmr
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    I was listening to the audio of this from De Generas (sp), the audience clearly had the critical thought capacity of a brick. Just a bunch of affirmative whopping in agreement, had Knightly suggested burning copies of Playboy they'd have stood up and applauded.


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    Mean Laqueefa
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    Actually didn't kiera knightly co-star and accept a massive pay cheque for a Disney movie based on a ride in Disney land ?


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    PlaneSpeeking
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    wexie wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to just ban Twitter?

    And no on the banning movies, fecking eejits.

    What's next? banning books? Literature? Renaissance paintings?

    What about this? Should this be banned? That lady not only has her boob out but is feeding a grown man!? And the man is her father!!!! <shock! horror! outrage!!>

    peter-paul-rubens-roman-charity.jpg

    How about this? What if, rather than randomly banning things 'some' people don't agree with, perhaps we use these things as a learning opportunity, provide some context around how things change.

    And as for Disney movies....they're Disney movies, Kiera Knightly needs to get over herself.

    Kiera Knightly is the Emma Watson with a slightly longer career.

    Both utter full of themselves humans. That smile she has in Love Actually ?

    Jesus I've rarely wanted to kick anyone in the teeth more.


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    PlaneSpeeking
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    Mean Laqueefa wrote: »
    Actually didn't kiera knightly co-star and accept a massive pay cheque for a Disney movie based on a ride in Disney land ?

    And several sequels, yeah.

    Hypocrisy from feminists ? Whatever next!!!


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    wexie
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    Oh actually hang on, I do have one caveat, they are banned from watching Phantasia.

    No way anyone can fully appreciate that while sober :pac:


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    engiweirdo
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    Oh FFS. Just go jump off a bridge you scrawny, boobless, pompous, entitled little bitches in fairness like. Get a life like.


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    #20
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Would you ban your children from watching old Disney classics in light of the #MeToo era due to the way women are depicted in them?

    To broaden your question a bit - would you ban your children from watching stuff that goes against your own moral beliefs? For example, if you had some crazy religious beliefs and a modern Disney film featured a character with two dads, would it be acceptable to shield them from watching it?


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    RobbingBandit
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    Aw **** off Hollywood next they'll want to change Mickey Mouse to Mike Mouse I don't want my daughter saying she loves Mickey. ;)


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    The Bollocks
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    Should old Disney movies be banned in the era of #MeToo?? They should in their bollocks.
    The old Disney films bring great memories from childhood for a lot of people.These modern era pansys need to shut up or be shut up.Constantly on the lookout for their next outrage.



    #MeToo my bollocks.


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    Gimme A Pound
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I’d like to see you try, seeing as they don’t exist.
    I don't like terms like PC brigade and sjw (or indeed mansplaining and "the patriarchy") but you know full well who they're referring to.


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    PlaneSpeeking
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    Emiliano Old-fashioned Crap wrote: »
    I don't like terms like PC brigade and sjw (or indeed mansplaining and "the patriarchy") but you know full well who they're referring to.

    Manspreading is a real thing though - cf the t**t on my train at 7am today!!!!!

    Rest is bollocks tho but "PC brigade" is fair enough to describe these wingnuts.


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    SharpshooterTom
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    Emiliano Old-fashioned Crap wrote: »
    I don't like terms like PC brigade and sjw (or indeed mansplaining and "the patriarchy") but you know full well who they're referring to.

    Although I've wrote this thread in negative light of the #MeToo movement, I'm actually a supporter of it and think its great women are speaking up. Society has been long overdue big changes in the way some men treat women.

    But I thought this stuff was taking it too far, just curious to see what others felt in light of reviewing old movies, should some of them be phased out.


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    wexie
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I was listening to the audio of this from De Generas (sp), the audience clearly had the critical thought capacity of a brick. Just a bunch of affirmative whopping in agreement, had Knightly suggested burning copies of Playboy they'd have stood up and applauded.

    It is 'American.....daytime....television......audience' what were you expecting?


    (not actually sure if she's on in the daytime but as far as I'm concerned she should be, it's Jerry Springer type entertainment)


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    Feisar
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    Heard on the radio kleenex are rebranding their "mansize" tissues to large or whatever due some campaign or other.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    wexie
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    But I thought this stuff was taking it too far, just curious to see what others felt in light of reviewing old movies, should some of them be phased out.

    Personally I am opposed to pretty much any type of censorship. I think it's a very very slippery slope with lots of really really bad stuff on the way down.

    If people think old (Disney) movies are harmful then they are free not to watch them. Banning or censoring though....Where would it stop? Who gets to decide what is 'offensive', 'upsetting' or ''harmful'?


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    coffee_cake
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I was reading Sleeping Beauty with my daughter the other day.
    The Prince finds a beautiful sleeping girl and his first thought is to kiss her. I wonder if she didn't wake up what he'd do next?


    Still though, it's a f*cking FAIRY TALE

    The original story is what he did next. She woke up from the baby.

    I had just read the article in the irish times and it sounded like kristen bell watched it with them but then used that to discuss themes e.g snow white eating food from strangers. That sounds entirely appropriate to me.
    Total non story


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    wexie
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    The original story is what he did next. She woke up from the baby.

    I had just read the article and it sounded like kristen bell watched it with them but then used that to discuss themes e.g snow white eating food from strangers. That sounds entirely appropriate to me

    A lot of original fairy tales are really grim (hurhur)


    :pac:


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    Gimme A Pound
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    Feisar wrote: »
    Heard on the radio kleenex are rebranding their "mansize" tissues to large or whatever due some campaign or other.
    Thought it was on The Onion but it's true. It's due to perceived sexism. I sh1t ye not.


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