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Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    I'd love to hear her (no doubt) defence of Williams' behaviour,

    Why? You would not have enjoyed it. Or would you, are you a radiomasochist?

    (For the record, I'm no Williams fan, Paul, Serena, they're a bad bunch)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    I was in a taxi today for a short trip and the driver had her on. Some chap on about the HSE, what needs to be done etc etc.

    And I thought to myself, is she going to run for the Dail in the next couple of years????

    Just couldn't get that thought out of my head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I was in a taxi today for a short trip and the driver had her on. Some chap on about the HSE, what needs to be done etc etc.

    And I thought to myself, is she going to run for the Dail in the next couple of years????

    Just couldn't get that thought out of my head!

    The Honourable member for protestant Greystones?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And I thought to myself, is she going to run for the Dail in the next couple of years????

    Just couldn't get that thought out of my head!
    I'd say she's considered it, and she wouldn't be the worst TD in my view. But there are already two TDs based in Greystones, and both Stephen Donnelly and Simon Harris are local darlings, with safe seats for the rest of their lives.

    At best she might have a run at the Seanad. She'd have a good chance on the NUI Panel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    But there are already two TDs based in Greystones, and both Stephen Donnelly and Simon Harris are local darlings, with safe seats for the rest of their lives.


    Remember that Donnelly jumped over to Fianna Fail having been voted in as an independent. So I think he may well get a backlash because of that. I like Stephen, but I was hugely let down by him when he did this, and if I was in his constituency I would certainly not vote for him after this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Remember that Donnelly jumped over to Fianna Fail having been voted in as an independent. So I think he may well get a backlash because of that. I like Stephen, but I was hugely let down by him when he did this, and if I was in his constituency I would certainly not vote for him after this.




    Ciara is blatantly FG. She's have to get a FG ticket. Even with quotas for women I can't see her get a ticket. Not when many have done hard work in the area for years


    I don't think she'd want it anyway. Not till her daughters are grown anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    I was in a taxi today for a short trip and the driver had her on. Some chap on about the HSE, what needs to be done etc etc.

    And I thought to myself, is she going to run for the Dail in the next couple of years????

    Just couldn't get that thought out of my head!


    Caira kelly and her ego, the end game is to use newstalk as a launchpad to get back to RTE. She desperately wants to replace marian finucane on the current affairs radio format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Kevtherev1 wrote:
    Caira kelly and her ego, the end game is to use newstalk as a launchpad to get back to RTE. She desperately wants to replace marian finucane on the current affairs radio format.

    There will only be a one marian finucane. A great radio presenter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Kevtherev1 wrote: »
    Caira kelly and her ego, the end game is to use newstalk as a launchpad to get back to RTE. She desperately wants to replace marian finucane on the current affairs radio format.


    I think she did say that that was her ambition when she was speaking to Marion the week that she stabbed George Hook in the back. If RTE hire her I will give up on them altogether.



    On another point, she was very loose tongued yet again the other night when describing the non-obese models who usually embellish the cover of Cosmo as ill and unhealthy. I was actually surprised that the presenters did not interrupt her with the usual disclaimer that "Cosmo would not have sick people on their cover, I'm sure they are all working in a safe and healthy environment". The thing is - When she gets bitchy she can lose the run of herself like she did with that other doctor who she maligned on the radio show. Please god she will run her big mouth off again sometime soon and then banished back to the surgery.



    Do we know how that thing with her father's doctor ended up? Is he gonna sue I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I think she did say that that was her ambition when she was speaking to Marion the week that she stabbed George Hook in the back. If RTE hire her I will give up on them altogether.



    On another point, she was very loose tongued yet again the other night when describing the non-obese models who usually embellish the cover of Cosmo as ill and unhealthy. I was actually surprised that the presenters did not interrupt her with the usual disclaimer that "Cosmo would not have sick people on their cover, I'm sure they are all working in a safe and healthy environment". The thing is - When she gets bitchy she can lose the run of herself like she did with that other doctor who she maligned on the radio show. Please god she will run her big mouth off again sometime soon and then banished back to the surgery.



    Do we know how that thing with her father's doctor ended up? Is he gonna sue I wonder?




    Yes, he is suing both her and Newstalk.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ciara-kelly-high-court-3916848-Mar2018/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I think she did say that that was her ambition when she was speaking to Marion the week that she stabbed George Hook in the back. If RTE hire her I will give up on them altogether.



    On another point, she was very loose tongued yet again the other night when describing the non-obese models who usually embellish the cover of Cosmo as ill and unhealthy. I was actually surprised that the presenters did not interrupt her with the usual disclaimer that "Cosmo would not have sick people on their cover, I'm sure they are all working in a safe and healthy environment".

    Bwhahaha... You are joking right?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Joan Burton reliving her near-death experience in Jobstown now, talking about the Frederick Street protest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Joan Burton reliving her near-death experience in Jobstown now, talking about the Frederick Street protest


    I really, really never liked her and I still don't. However I'd imagine she was terrified in that car. Her assistant too though she rarely gets mentioned.

    All I can can say is that I would not be happy for my wife or daughter to be in that car that day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I really, really never liked her and I still don't. However I'd imagine she was terrified in that car. Her assistant too though she rarely gets mentioned.

    All I can can say is that I would not be happy for my wife or daughter to be in that car that day

    I agree. That was awful behaviour, it was not something a decent person would do and a politician (with a law degree) try to incite. Wrong charges were brought out against protesters and Paul Murphy but that is not Burton's fault. She was treated appallingly.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I really, really never liked her and I still don't. However I'd imagine she was terrified in that car. Her assistant too though she rarely gets mentioned.

    All I can can say is that I would not be happy for my wife or daughter to be in that car that day
    Yeah, that's true. Worth bearing in mind that she was in her mid-sixties at the time, too.

    Still, it was four years and one (unsuccessful) prosecution ago, it's probably time to put it to bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Bwhahaha... You are joking right?


    If you were working for the company would you be happy with the allegation that your staff were kept in unhealthy conditions. The Mayo Ladies manager certainly wasn't happy when that accusation was made of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Ciara is blatantly FG. She's have to get a FG ticket. Even with quotas for women I can't see her get a ticket. Not when many have done hard work in the area for years


    I don't think she'd want it anyway. Not till her daughters are grown anyway

    I also doubt she'd want it. You'd want your head examined to go from a well paid media job to run for TD. I'd say Shane Ross regrets abandoning the high moral ground for the gritty realities of getting elected. And George Lee was not long turning tail back to RTE.
    And all for what: less money, probably less influence, never having your own time.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What kinds of salaries would we be talking about, for primetime Newstalk presenters?

    Hardly more than a TD's salary, about 100k?

    Can't imagine that CK is much better off as a radio broadcaster than she was as GP, if at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    What kinds of salaries would we be talking about, for primetime Newstalk presenters?

    Hardly more than a TD's salary, about 100k?

    Can't imagine that CK is much better off as a radio broadcaster than she was as GP, if at all.




    I can't speak for Ciara but it has become the norm now not to sell your practice but to keep it & go into partnership with other GPs. They do all the work & you get a percentage. I'd imagine she still has an income of sorts from the practice.


    In my mind the main advantage is she is in a less stressful job with shorter hours. She probably gets home around the same time as her daughters so better home-life. She still does a weekly article in a paper, I think. If she hasn't started writing a book I'm sure there's one out in the next few years.


    Less stress & better quality of life


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep, that sounds right Sleeper.

    No doubt CK made the leap to broadcasting on the basis that she would have some advantage over her old job ... plus, her new job sounds like a lot of fun.

    I'm just nosey about salaries :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    What kinds of salaries would we be talking about, for primetime Newstalk presenters?

    Hardly more than a TD's salary, about 100k?

    Can't imagine that CK is much better off as a radio broadcaster than she was as GP, if at all.

    It's a very tricky one to gauge (for me anyway). I would have thought that Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieff and even Ivan Yates would be able to command comparable salaries to some of RTE radio stars because if they weren't getting them at Newstalk, they'd have long been angling for a role in RTE.

    RTE 2017 Salaries give some idea of earning potential.

    Ryan Tubridy (€495,000)
    Ray D’Arcy (€400,000)
    Joe Duffy (€389,988)
    Miriam O’Callaghan (€299,000)
    Marian Finucane (€295,000)
    Sean O’Rourke (€290,113)
    Claire Byrne (€201,500)
    Nicky Byrne (€200, 583)
    Bryan Dobson (€195,913)
    Darragh Maloney (€188,803)

    Ciara? Not at the same level as those I mentioned above for one reason because she's been on air for much shorter period but even though some seem to loathe her show, I suspect there many who enjoy it. Besides, as we know, many of those on the RTE list are equally derided.

    I agree with Sleeper12 in that it is probably less work than being a GP and suits family life better which might offset a potential downturn in earnings, if that exists.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a very tricky one to gauge (for me anyway). I would have thought that Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieff and even Ivan Yates would be able to command comparable salaries to some of RTE radio stars because if they weren't getting them at Newstalk, they'd have long been angling for a role in RTE.

    RTE 2017 Salaries give some idea of earning potential.

    Ryan Tubridy (€495,000)
    Ray D’Arcy (€400,000)
    Joe Duffy (€389,988)
    Miriam O’Callaghan (€299,000)
    Marian Finucane (€295,000)
    Sean O’Rourke (€290,113)
    Claire Byrne (€201,500)
    Nicky Byrne (€200, 583)
    Bryan Dobson (€195,913)
    Darragh Maloney (€188,803)

    Ciara? Not at the same level as those I mentioned above for one reason because she's been on air for much shorter period but even though some seem to loathe her show, I suspect there many who enjoy it. Besides, as we know, many of those on the RTE list are equally derided.

    I agree with Sleeper12 in that it is probably less work than being a GP and suits family life better which might offset a potential downturn in earnings, if that exists.
    CK's JNLR ratings, impressive as they are, don't rival any of the broadcasters in your list; they're more comparable to 2FM's Breakfast Republic (about 100k JNLR).

    She's almost definitely on less than €100k, right?

    part of the reason i ask this, is it raises questions about her competitors' salaries, e.g. Joe Duffy on approximately €400k per annum, and whether those competitors' salaries can possibly be justified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    She's almost definitely on less than €100k, right?

    Liveline gets around around 380k listeners compared to Lunchtime Live's ~100k. So does that mean she's getting €100k (~25% of Joe's salary)?

    Probably not, RTE are not a commercial station, they're spending our money not theirs. So I'd say their salaries may be a little out of whack with the real world.

    That said I doubt she's far off €100k. What do you think George Hook was on? And he had less listeners than she does. Listeners is all that counts as that's what is going to determine what you can charge advertisers.

    Plus she has Operation Transformation, Sunday Independent column and as pointed out above, possibly practice revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    There will only be a one marian finucane. A great radio presenter.

    You are kidding, right? tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Yeats mentioned once that he wouldn't want to work for RTE because his salary would be in public domain. Although I'm not sure how much he can be taken seriously. Ciara mentioned years ago (during the recession) that she had to reschedule mortgage repayments because they were too high. I think they moved recently, she was probably comfortable as gp but nothing spectacular. I also suspect that presenters on Newstalk except Pat Kenny aren't paid stratospheric amounts but they probably have other nixers they make money from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Dick Pickle


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Yeats mentioned once that he wouldn't want to work for RTE because his salary would be in public domain. Although I'm not sure how much he can be taken seriously. Ciara mentioned years ago (during the recession) that she had to reschedule mortgage repayments because they were too high. I think they moved recently, she was probably comfortable as gp but nothing spectacular. I also suspect that presenters on Newstalk except Pat Kenny aren't paid stratospheric amounts but they probably have other nixers they make money from.

    200 snots a Show apparently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    It's a very tricky one to gauge (for me anyway). I would have thought that Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieff and even Ivan Yates would be able to command comparable salaries to some of RTE radio stars because if they weren't getting them at Newstalk, they'd have long been angling for a role in RTE.

    RTE 2017 Salaries give some idea of earning potential.

    Ryan Tubridy (€495,000)
    Ray D’Arcy (€400,000)
    Joe Duffy (€389,988)
    Miriam O’Callaghan (€299,000)
    Marian Finucane (€295,000)
    Sean O’Rourke (€290,113)
    Claire Byrne (€201,500)
    Nicky Byrne (€200, 583)
    Bryan Dobson (€195,913)
    Darragh Maloney (€188,803)

    Ciara? Not at the same level as those I mentioned above for one reason because she's been on air for much shorter period but even though some seem to loathe her show, I suspect there many who enjoy it. Besides, as we know, many of those on the RTE list are equally derided.

    I agree with Sleeper12 in that it is probably less work than being a GP and suits family life better which might offset a potential downturn in earnings, if that exists.

    I'd say she is on around 70k. She probably has a locum into her practice so is still earning there. I would also imagine she's not a Newstalk employee but a contractor. So she is still self-employed. So probably claiming lots of expenses to do with the job (all perfectly legal). She also does a column in the paper, maybe getting €500 a pop. Is she still on operation transformation?
    So I'm sure she's not short of a few quid and the work / life balance is better I'd say.
    But commercial radio is nowhere as near well paid as RTE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    But commercial radio is nowhere as near well paid as RTE

    Generally, i would agree. But I don't imagine Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieffe would have stayed around Newstalk if there was a massive difference between their earnings and those at RTE. (Ok RTE have Dave Fanning and they are very similar in topics and style).

    Sean was with them for the Don't Feed the Gondola's years ago so I think could have gotten a role there if money was a factor.

    Maybe I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Generally, i would agree. But I don't imagine Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieffe would have stayed around Newstalk if there was a massive difference between their earnings and those at RTE. (Ok RTE have Dave Fanning and they are very similar in topics and style).

    Sean was with them for the Don't Feed the Gondola's years ago so I think could have gotten a role there if money was a factor.

    Maybe I'm wrong.

    Maybe your right! But I can't see that Tom Dunne would be in huge demand on other stations. Ok maybe Today FM but he wouldn't get an increase there (actually I think he was on there at one stage?).
    Ivan is different but again I can't see him ever on RTE with his own show as he's too opinionated.
    That has to impact on their earning potential, they can hardly say 'I'm off to RTE for more money' as a bluff, because that bluff would probably be called?

    Again I'm not an expert here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Generally, i would agree. But I don't imagine Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieffe would have stayed around Newstalk if there was a massive difference between their earnings and those at RTE. (Ok RTE have Dave Fanning and they are very similar in topics and style).


    Don't forget Pat Kenny moved from RTE so you have to assume that he is on more money with Newstalk than RTE


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