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Serena's meltdown

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  • #272
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    ELM327 wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-5530871/Lewis-Hamilton-sparks-race-row-ahead-Australian-Grand-Prix.html
    Blacks dont crack

    I don't understand why you've posted that as a response to my post. It isn't a riposte in any way.

    You said: "When they win it's great but when they lose it's because they're black"

    How is that true of Lewis Hamilton?

    'There is barely any diversity in Formula One. Still nothing's changed in 11 years I've been here. Kids, people, there are so many jobs in this sport in which anybody, no matter their ethnicity or background, can make it and fit in. #diversity #ucandoit.'

    Entirely accurate and uncontroversial. Why would you have a problem with him saying that?


  • #273
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I’d say from that performance a lot of ppl will lose all respect for her.

    They’ll be wondering was she cheating all these years?


    Given that the line between cheat and non-cheat is whether or not the substance you use is banned rather than use of substances.....


  • #274
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    ELM327 wrote: »
    She's like lewis hamilton in F1 and any of the many black american football players.
    When they win it's great but when they lose it's because they're black
    Or god forgive, black and female.

    She's had a hissy fit, you think she'd show some maturity and come out and admit as such. What sort of a crap example is this setting for her child.




    Where in her outburst did she mention anything to do with her race?


  • #275
    super_furry
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    She's a woman, physically strong, successful, feminist, opinionated and black.

    A veritable broflake nightmare.

    Absolutely. But in this case, she was bang out of order.


  • #276
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    She was right in both her words and actions.


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  • #277
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    super_furry wrote: »
    Absolutely. But in this case, she was bang out of order.

    I think the coaching thing was harsh but Serena demanding an apology was completely over-the-top. Tennis players always seem to have their melt-downs and break their tennis bats when the match is slipping away from them.

    I feel sorry for the Japanese player who considers Serena one of her heroes, I believe.


  • #278
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    super_furry wrote: »
    Absolutely. But in this case, she was bang out of order.

    It seems that the broflakes are way less tolerant of bad behaviour when it's from a black woman.


  • #279
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    The bias in this thread is shocking, like all the minimum wage plebs would know even the slightest thing about pressure and success.

    Her words and actions were a dignified response to an egregious affront she was dealt.


  • #280
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    The bias in this thread is shocking, like all the minimum wage plebs would know even the slightest thing about pressure and success.

    Her words and actions were a dignified response to an egregious affront she was dealt.

    Do you think she should take the umpire and the WTA to court over this affront?


  • #281
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    The bias in this thread is shocking, like all the minimum wage plebs would know even the slightest thing about pressure and success.

    Her words and actions were a dignified response to an egregious affront she was dealt.

    Eh? :D


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  • #282
    Greyfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    Shes badly behaved. A bloody diva. Not all that talented.

    Im very disappointed in her as she's normally a good loser but she lost the plot and ruined the winners very special day but how can the greatest female tennis player ever not be talented?


  • #283
    frankythefish
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    I like Serena, but she s a role model to many and her conduct was poor. Like it or lump it the umpire went by the rules and on each of the 3 occasions he was right


  • #284
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    It seems that the broflakes are way less tolerant of bad behaviour when it's from a black woman.

    Did you watch the two videos posted? In the second one, she threatened to kill the female official. Female official complained to the female umpire, Williams denied the threat and the crowd backed up the official.

    It’s not about sexism, or racism, it’s about her breaking the rules and trying to squirm out of it any way she can.

    She should be banned, any player that pulls that crap should be banned.


  • #285
    ginandtonicsky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭ginandtonicsky


    I think this was an example of 1. her inability to lose with grace and 2. the celebrity going to her head. She apparently thinks that every single move she makes is WOMEN'S RIGHTS and she's also had a year of the media blowing hot air up her ass, turning her into some sort of god-like superhero figure just because she's black and female, much like they did with Beyonce.

    She had a baby and is back on the Grand Slam circuit YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS! She nearly died and is still making Grand Slam finals YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS! She's challenging tennis tradition with her court attire YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS!

    I've no doubt she's faced discrimination and sexism and racism over the course of her career, but she's now standing to cheapen and totally discredit her reputation as some kind of rock star feminist by pulling the sexism card as a way of justifying some seriously appalling, self-centred and bratty behaviour.

    I feel so sorry for Osaka, only 20 years old and having the joy and victory of her first Grand Slam title torn away from her by her own hero who couldn't get over herself and accept that she wasn't the better player on the day. Never meet your heroes I guess.


  • #286
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    ginandtonicsky wrote: »
    I think this was an example of 1. her inability to lose with grace and 2. the celebrity going to her head. She apparently thinks that every single move she makes is WOMEN'S RIGHTS and she's also had a year of the media blowing hot air up her ass.

    She had a baby and is back on the Grand Slam circuit YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS! She nearly died and is still making Grand Slam finals YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS! She's challenging tennis tradition with her court attire YAY FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS!

    I've no doubt she's faced discrimination and sexism and racism over the course of her career, but she's now standing to cheapen and totally discredit her reputation as some kind of superhero feminist by pulling the sexism card as a way of justifying some seriously appalling, self-centred and bratty behaviour.

    I feel so sorry for Osaka, only 20 years old and having the joy and victory of her first Grand Slam title torn away from her by her own hero who couldn't get over herself and accept that she was the better player on the day. Never meet your heroes I guess.

    I am gobsmacked there are people on this thread who think her behaviour was anything other than the above.


  • #287
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    frankythefish wrote: »
    I like Serena, but she s a role model to many and her conduct was poor. Like it or lump it the umpire went by the rules and on each of the 3 occasions he was right

    She is professional athlete, and who says she has to a role model for anyone. She acted like she should have in this situation.


  • #288
    Star Bingo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    The osaka girl pulled her visor over her face upon winning it was like here, I’ll be embarrassed for you then


  • #289
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,668 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    She is professional athlete, and who says she has to a role model for anyone. She acted like she should have in this situation.

    The match officials acted like they should have, and the tennis authorities have also done the right thing by fining her.


  • #290
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    The bias in this thread is shocking, like all the minimum wage plebs would know even the slightest thing about pressure and success.


    1424720679740.jpg


    We've been called a lot of names on After Hours, but this is a new one.
    Methinks that thou protests too much though.


  • #291
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Did you watch the two videos posted? In the second one, she threatened to kill the female official. Female official complained to the female umpire, Williams denied the threat and the crowd backed up the official.

    It’s not about sexism, or racism, it’s about her breaking the rules and trying to squirm out of it any way she can.

    She should be banned, any player that pulls that crap should be banned.

    Yeah, she lost it and behaved badly, like so many other great sportspeople have done in the past. People seem a lot more heated about it than they would be if she was a white man. That's just my opinion though. No doubt I'll be told why I'm wrong.


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  • #292
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The match officials acted like they should have, and the tennis authorities have also done the right thing by fining her.

    Yeh. $17k lighter today. That'll learn her. Regrets it now I would say.


  • #293
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Yeh. $17k lighter today. That'll learn her. Regrets it now I would say.

    Small price to pay for her dignified response to reprehensible treatment.


  • #294
    Pretzeluck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Yeh. $17k lighter today. That'll learn her. Regrets it now I would say.

    Yeah will make a massive difference for a multi millionaire.


  • #295
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Small price to pay for her dignified response to reprehensible treatment.

    :pac:

    LOL


  • #296
    Star Bingo
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    Net worth $180mil :o


  • #297
    dxhound2005
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    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Small price to pay for her dignified response to reprehensible treatment.

    She still didn't get an apology from the umpire. He is hardly likely to issue one now, since the fine confirms he was in the right.


  • #298
    HappyAsLarE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Star Bingo wrote: »
    Net worth $180mil :o

    How did a black woman become so wealthy in our white patriarchal society?!


  • #299
    johnpatrick81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Some shameful posting in this thread, even for AH standards.

    Glad most the pros and experts seem to see sense in this at least, and don’t want to crucify her like the rest of the rabid frenzy.


  • #300
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.


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  • #301
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,668 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    johnpatrick81 wrote: »
    Some shameful posting in this thread, even for AH standards.

    Glad most the pros and experts seem to see sense in this at least, and don’t want to crucify her like the rest of the rabid frenzy.

    Did you post any of your opinions in the Tennis forum?


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