Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

EU to recommend abolishing DST

«13456756

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    About time!


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I do agree, the problem I have is that as far as I'm aware, it's the "winter time" that's default, so we'd end up with earlier sunsets during the summer. Would rather it the "summer time" all year instead.

    edit, actually only skimmed the article, that's what's proposed.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    So it will not get bright till close on 10am in the west in the dead of winter.

    Stupid idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    I do agree, the problem I have is that as far as I'm aware, it's the "winter time" that's default, so we'd end up with earlier sunsets during the summer. Would rather it the "summer time" all year instead.

    That was one of the question in the survey.
    When I took it, I voted for keeping summer time year round.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Shenshen wrote: »
    That was one of the question in the survey.
    When I took it, I voted for keeping summer time year round.

    Sorry yeah I only skimmed the article, that's what's actually proposed.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    I won't be listening to the EU on this. I will stick to how it currently is. Let EU nations follow if they must.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    So it will not get bright till close on 10am in the west in the dead of winter.

    Stupid idea.

    They would still get the extra hour of daylight in the evening time in the middle of winter just like everyone else. Maybe plenty of people would be quite happy with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    So it will not get bright till close on 10am in the west in the dead of winter.

    Stupid idea.

    Swings and roundabouts. The sun setting at 4 o'clock in the afternoon is just as absurd as it not rising till 10am.

    You can't control the basic physics, only the labels we apply to it. Personally I feel that a later sunset in the winter would be worth having the later sunrise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Taytoland wrote: »
    I won't be listening to the EU on this. I will stick to how it currently is. Let EU nations follow if they must.

    So you're planning on turning up an hour late for everything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    seamus wrote: »
    You can't control the basic physics, only the labels we apply to it.

    It seems though that there are people out there who think that DST actually somehow magically changes the amount of 'daytime' in the day during the winter.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    First they start messing with the time, next it'll be the corporation tax,
    - all in the name of glorious 'harmonisation', a pretty word sometimes with ugly consequences.

    What about sticking an artifical sun lamp up in the sky over Northern Europe
    e.g. Mass of xenon lamps in geo-sat, solar/wind charged by day, but ramped up sunrise/sunset.
    Sunny days (and night)!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    'time' is a social construct, maan...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    If they keep us on Summer time then Noon (the point at which the Sun is highest in the sky) will not be Noon (12 O'Clock). I know that this has not been the case in Ireland since the adoption of GMT but we are only a few minutes behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    If they keep us on Summer time then Noon (the point at which the Sun is highest in the sky) will not be Noon (12 O'Clock). I know that this has not been the case in Ireland since the adoption of GMT but we are only a few minutes behind.

    Unless you're using a sundial, why would that be a problem?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    So the UK will stick with GMT while the rest of Europe standardises on a time that doesn't require changing the clocks twice a year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    'time' is a social construct, maan...

    The term 'social construct' is also one.

    Ha! now you are caught in a loop from which you can never be released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Unless you're using a sundial, why would that be a problem?
    Because I am incredibly pedantic and it would annoy me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    If they keep us on Summer time then Noon (the point at which the Sun is highest in the sky) will not be Noon (12 O'Clock). I know that this has not been the case in Ireland since the adoption of GMT but we are only a few minutes behind.

    It already isn't, if you look at a map of the timezones more than half of the country should be in GMT -1 if you were to go by the orbit of the sun.
    Because I am incredibly pedantic and it would annoy me.

    Don't go to the west coast so :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    So it will not get bright till close on 10am in the west in the dead of winter.

    Stupid idea.

    I'd be keen to learn why would you reckon that this morning hour (when most are in a lit classroom/workplace anyway) is the time of the day when we need the daylight. Would the daylight not be used better when kids and 9-5 workers have a chance to use it outdoors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    9EIvRkj.jpg


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    fxotoole wrote: »
    So the UK will stick with GMT while the rest of Europe standardises on a time that doesn't require changing the clocks twice a year?

    GMT is different issue Ireland would remain in the same timezone

    if UK kept DST Ireland would be on GMT for half the year along with UK and then an hour apart the other half

    but that is if UK kept it


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    All I know is it is depressing as fúck when the clocks go back and suddenly you're leaving work in almost complete darkness :(

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    I think it's a great idea but ultimately we won't do it unless the U.K. agrees to it.

    So basically it won't happen here, trying to get the U.K. to follow an suggestion from Europe ain't gonna fly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    I think it's a great idea but ultimately we won't do it unless the U.K. agrees to it.

    So basically it won't happen here, trying to get the U.K. to follow an suggestion from Europe ain't gonna fly

    I don't know if Ireland will have much of a choice in the matter if the rest of the EU decides it's the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    So you're planning on turning up an hour late for everything?

    Well, him and his ilk are generally about a century behind the rest of civilization, so another hour isn't going to make much of a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    I think it's a great idea but ultimately we won't do it unless the U.K. agrees to it.

    So basically it won't happen here, trying to get the U.K. to follow an suggestion from Europe ain't gonna fly


    well given 80% wanted these changes there may be an appetite for it in UK for same reasons. Their business/financial sector also probably wouldn't want to be another hour out of sync with European countries

    also worth noting that Ireland was once in a different timezone and were 25 minutes behind UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,896 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I think it's a great idea but ultimately we won't do it unless the U.K. agrees to it.

    So basically it won't happen here, trying to get the U.K. to follow an suggestion from Europe ain't gonna fly

    Why do we need the UK to agree? We went metric when they didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    wexie wrote: »
    I don't know if Ireland will have much of a choice in the matter if the rest of the EU decides it's the way to go.

    Of course we will, not all European laws are the same for each country. This is not the USA.

    Each member state can still choose if they want to keep DST or not
    Why do we need the UK to agree? We went metric when they didn't.

    Most people over 50 still use imperial here, besides that is a unit of measure you are talking about.

    Also as you may or may not be aware 6 of the counties on this island are in the U.K. also the majority of our international business dealings are still with the U.K., I can guaranteed that Irish business will kick up a stink if we have a different time than the UK


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    So you're planning on turning up an hour late for everything?

    Well, him and his ilk are generally about a century behind the rest of civilization, so another hour isn't going to make much of a difference.
    Funny how progressives think only they are in the right.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    IMO we should calculate the mean time for solar noon across the country, make that noon and never change the clocks at any time during the year. If schools and work needs to start at 8am or 10am that's fine, it's only an abstract concept relative to a solar day anyway.

    12pm should be the middle of the solar day and we should keep it at that all year long.


Advertisement