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So who's going to see the Pope?

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  • #1772
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,095 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well the first part went alright. No own goals although Sharon was a bit off at time.


  • #1773
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    taytobreath wrote:
    I’d say you need to go off and take a Valium or something, your picking on everyone’s posts.


    Nah, just the idiotic ones.


  • #1774
    The Kop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 85 ✭✭The Kop


    Auguste Comte wrote: »
    Good to see you joining in with an oul moan of your own there.:rolleyes:

    Have I offended you in someway? I can't really tell anymore as people seem to get offended over everything nowadays


  • #1775
    The Kop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 85 ✭✭The Kop


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Nah, just the idiotic ones.

    But most of the idiotic posts have been from you .


  • #1776
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    The Kop wrote:
    But most of the idiotic posts have been from you .

    Oh what a witty riposte.


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  • #1777
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Seems to be an irritating day for tiresome neckbeard atheists.


  • #1778
    Father Hernandez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Ahh yes, acknowledgement but no apologies to the clerical sex abuse, perfect opp to do so and yet the tax payer spends millions bringing him over for nothing but an audience on RTE.


  • #1779
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    That's the Jesuit priest that 9500 tolerant individuals signed a petition to try and have stopped from attending.

    And thankfully those hypocrites, probably Opus Dei in origin, who are even despised amongst ordinary Catholics, were suitably ignored.


  • #1780
    RoryMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Seems to be an irritating day for tiresome neckbeard atheists.

    And a day of joy for people who turn a blind eye to decades of physical & sexual abuse


  • #1781
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    If the Pope was the leader of a franchise which sold any number of items around the world in the millions and that organization was involved in a huge pedophilia cover up the invite never would have happened but because it's religion it's acceptable. It shows the power religion still has on Western society. Somehow the Bible is still different.


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  • #1782
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    RoryMac wrote: »
    And a day of joy for people who turn a blind eye to decades of physical & sexual abuse

    Like your parents /grandparents and pretty much everyone in the country who is more than 50 years old.

    The church in this country were not armed they would have been very easy to deal with if the public didn't decide they didn't want to deal with it.It was unbelievably inhuman to allow people to be taken into these mother and child homes,reformatory schools etc for no good reason and yet that is what the Irish people allowed to happen.


  • #1783
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Seems to be an irritating day for tiresome neckbeard atheists.

    Neckbeard! Oooh burn!:rolleyes:

    Seriously? It's a really painful day for people who have suffered grievously under the evil organisation that Francis is the (figure)head of. But neckbeard is the best you can do? Bad show.:(


  • #1784
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Politically he can’t apologize I suppose, it would open the floodgates to lawsuits if he did.

    So what if it did. They just won't pay, like the triple comma of money they owe the state here in unpaid redress.


  • #1785
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    It's a bit rich to be blaming the Irish people. Catholic clerics raped buggered and beat children all around the world and continue to do so and hide these violent sex criminals enabling them to evade justice.


  • #1786
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    RustyNut wrote: »
    It's a bit rich to be blaming the Irish people. Catholic clerics raped buggered and beat children all around the world and continue to do so and hide these violent sex criminals enabling them to evade justice.

    I suppose it’s easier to make blanket statements and assumptions than acknowledge that the situation is complex and many layered.


  • #1787
    RoryMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Niles Crane wrote: »
    Like your parents /grandparents and pretty much everyone in the country who is more than 50 years old.

    The church in this country were not armed they would have been very easy to deal with if the public didn't decide they didn't want to deal with it.It was unbelievably inhuman to allow people to be taken into these mother and child homes,reformatory schools etc for no good reason and yet that is what the Irish people allowed to happen.

    The church are not 100% to blame of course, between them and the governments of the time they created a society that bowed to the church on all matters. The shame of a young girl getting pregnant was enough that a lot of families handed the child over to what was pretty much a slavery ring. Priests held such a high standing in this society that children feared not being believed if they told about the abuse.

    Everyone holds some responsibility for allowing this to happen but none moreso than the church that perpetrated the most serious crimes


  • #1788
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Father Hernandez wrote: »
    Ahh yes, acknowledgement but no apologies to the clerical sex abuse, perfect opp to do so and yet the tax payer spends millions bringing him over for nothing but an audience on RTE.

    He’s hardly in the country five minutes- give him a chance.


  • #1789
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Politically he can’t apologize I suppose, it would open the floodgates to lawsuits if he did.

    The Catholic Church is a business. Just look at the Vatican. What that has to do with Christianity is anyone's guess.


  • #1790
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Taytoland wrote: »
    The Catholic Church is a business. Just look at the Vatican. What that has to do with Christianity is anyone's guess.

    Paisleyite or new atheist?

    Hard to tell. Which is why I stay out of these debates.

    Anyway screw the pope since he closed the city down.


  • #1791
    horse7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭horse7


    I'm unhappy with rte,s coverage of the event today, paying for the bombardment of a religious event.


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  • #1792
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Taytoland wrote:
    The Catholic Church is a business. Just look at the Vatican. What that has to do with Christianity is anyone's guess.


    I have been to the Vatican several times, it is a city of undeniable beauty and immense wealth. Somehow I don't think Jesus would be happy with the trappings of wealth the church has acquired.


  • #1793
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,038 ✭✭✭✭adox


    It’s like a time warp having him visit and so many people attending.

    It’s a bit depressing but I’ll get over it. :)

    I’m sure if it’s another 40 years before another pope visits the attendance will be in tens of thousands not hundreds.

    We’ve move on a lot in the last few years but some seem to fall back on old comforts no matter what the cost.


  • #1794
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I suppose it’s easier to make blanket statements and assumptions than acknowledge that the situation is complex and many layered.

    Of course its more complex than just that but time and time again the irish public want to deny they played a part in what the church did and that they were to blame aswell.

    It's much much easier to have a convenient whipping boy like the church and just say everything that went on was 100% their fault and nobody else payed a part in it.

    The irish people of the past allowed the church to have undue influence on society.


  • #1795
    Father Hernandez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    He’s hardly in the country five minutes- give him a chance.

    He's had plenty of time to prepare for it, not as if he was pulled off the street at short notice.

    Saturday afternoon, thousands watching RTE and online, first opportunity to address it as it is the biggest topic on the majority of everyone and completely glossed over. Very underwhelming, why wait?


  • #1796
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Niles Crane wrote: »
    Of course its more complex than just that but time and time again the irish public want to deny they played a part in what the church did and that they were to blame aswell.

    It's much much easier to have a convenient whipping boy like the church and just say everything that went on was 100% their fault and nobody else payed a part in it.

    The irish people of the past allowed the church to have undue influence on society.

    Fear is a powerful thing. But letting them have undue influence does not mean people knew what was happening and ignored it.

    The wrong people are being targeted here.


  • #1797
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,682 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Niles Crane wrote: »
    Of course its more complex than just that but time and time again the irish public want to deny they played a part in what the church did and that they were to blame aswell.

    It's much much easier to have a convenient whipping boy like the church and just say everything that went on was 100% their fault and nobody else payed a part in it.

    The irish people of the past allowed the church to have undue influence on society.

    Who is saying it was 100% their fault?

    Could you stop with the sickening 'the church is the victim' talk?
    The church has been negligent and criminal in their actions about this. It's leader is in the country.
    That is the subject of the thread


  • #1798
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Father Hernandez wrote: »
    He's had plenty of time to prepare for it, not as if he was pulled off the street at short notice.

    Saturday afternoon, thousands watching RTE and online, first opportunity to address it as it is the biggest topic on the majority of everyone and completely glossed over. Very underwhelming, why wait?

    He has two or three more speeches to give - it makes more sense for him to do it in one of his public speeches than behind closed doors. M


  • #1799
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I suppose it’s easier to make blanket statements and assumptions than acknowledge that the situation is complex and many layered.

    What part of buggering children don't you understand?


  • #1800
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Fear is a powerful thing. But letting them have undue influence does not mean people knew what was happening and ignored it.

    The wrong people are being targeted here.

    What sort of person would allow their child too be taken away from them and put into a mother and child home or reformatory school for doing nothing wrong.

    It was unbelievably inhuman thing to allow happen and yet people stood back and did nothing and let their own family members be taken away from them.


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  • #1801
    Benteke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    I don't believe in all this god crap but if he does make a speech about sexual abuse he will do it in front of the masses in the park were all the sheep will applaud him for it


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