So who's going to see the Pope?

Topgear on Dave

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The papal nuncios gaff I think.

I think he originally asked for the Jackson Court but was told "no way Jose".

Corby Trouser Press

super_furry wrote: »

I hope that's true. We need to get back to our Celtic roots and shake of the yoke of Roman oppression.

Did you read the attachment at all ?

“Abortion as a sacrament, for the gift of life to remain pure?”

Utterly disturbing that our Minister for Children is associated with these beliefs.

Hitman3000

Corby Trouser Press wrote:

Utterly disturbing that our Minister for Children is associated with these beliefs.

Has she expressed these beliefs or is someone making the claim. Also what is the relevance to Frank.

super_furry

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Did you read the attachment at all ?

“Abortion as a sacrament, for the gift of life to remain pure?”

Utterly disturbing that our Minister for Children is associated with these beliefs.

No I didn't read it because it's mental gibberish.

theteal

So Leo says, "bridges are better than walls because bridges don't fall" to a bloke who more or less lives in Italy. . . :eek:

Itssoeasy

Is the pope going to speak in English or Spanish ?

taytobreath

Is there any chance ye could take that debate to the other thread

Itssoeasy

theteal wrote: »

So Leo says, "bridges are better than walls because bridges don't fall" to a bloke who more or less lives in Italy. . . :eek:

Yeah.

batgoat

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

super_furry wrote: »

I hope that's true. We need to get back to our Celtic roots and shake of the yoke of Roman oppression.

Did you read the attachment at all ?

“Abortion as a sacrament, for the gift of life to remain pure?”

Utterly disturbing that our Minister for Children is associated with these beliefs.

Yep I remember the conspiratorial crap that came out during the referendum with no basis outside of discovering she's a Wiccan. It was nonsense and still is.

Ekerot

Francis doesn't look too impressed with leo tbqhwy

Itssoeasy

Here we go Leo not shirking away from the scandals.

Skylinehead

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Did you read the attachment at all ?

“Abortion as a sacrament, for the gift of life to remain pure?”

Utterly disturbing that our Minister for Children is associated with these beliefs.

Mod: Get back on topic from this conspiracy nonsense.

super_furry

Ekerot wrote: »

Francis doesn't look too impressed with leo tbqhwy

Good. He needs to hear some uncomfortable truths this weekend.

dasdog

Leo Varadkar doing his best impression of Tony Blair. Ugh.

shakeitoff

This day has cultural significance, if you don't give a **** about it, I'd imagine you to be a bore, probably watching some ****e English league match. I'd say I am Catholic but whatever about that, it's a good weekend to reflect and discuss on where we are at a society as we truly enter a post-christian era in our country. That's a good thing.

Hitman3000

theteal wrote:

So Leo says, "bridges are better than walls because bridges don't fall" to a bloke who more or less lives in Italy. . .

I think Leo is beginning to take on the characteristics of his predecessor beginning with "foot in mouth".

The Kop

Leo doing great here. Fair play to him.

Corby Trouser Press

batgoat wrote: »

Yep I remember the conspiratorial crap that came out during the referendum with no basis outside of discovering she's a Wiccan. It was nonsense and still is.

It’s a referenced document.

Disprove it so if it’s “conspiratorial crap?”

Excellent speech by An Taoiseach- captured the good of the past that the Catholic Church achieved in Ireland in terms of education and care for the poor as well as the obvious abuses. However, he also admitted state failings too in this.

A respectful address but an assertive one also. Well done.

Azatadine

I think Leo did a very good job.

Strazdas

The Kop wrote: »

Leo doing great here. Fair play to him.

Fantastic speech by him, especially the way he addressed past failings by the Church and State

Itssoeasy

I assumed Leo would give a by the numbers speech avoiding some issues. But he mentioned them.

taytobreath

You’d think a pope would have good english

Hitman3000

Corby Trouser Press wrote:

Disprove it so if it’s “conspiratorial crap?â€

It is conspiratorial crap but what has it to do with Frank's visit and Zappone as a government minister meeting him.

jojofizzio

Ahhh the interpreter kicks in at last...

Corby Trouser Press

Nixonbot wrote: »

Mod: Get back on topic from this conspiracy nonsense.

Just pointing out the strangeness of the Irish State choosing to put forward a witch to meet the Pope.

Point made, I’ll drop it now.

Hitman3000

taytobreath wrote:

You’d think a pope would have good english

Why?

super_furry

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Just pointing out the strangeness of the Irish State choosing to put forward a witch to meet the Pope.

Point made, I’ll drop it now.

She's the Minister for Children, you know, all those small people that the priests raped and buried in septic tanks.

Itssoeasy

He can speak English but he's probably more comfortable speaking in Spanish or Italian.

HappyAsLarE

Class speech by Leo.