DIY eJuice thread

Thanks I'll look into that too, only used thebestshop.eu and local shops for batteries in the past.

Interesting, that's a great price for FA stuff. I didn't know that's what Dark Art concentrates were. Chefs Flavours also has a relabelled FA range that I've gotten a few things from in the past. I think I'll have to fill a couple of baskets and compare the results to see what works out best. Thanks for the code.

Dunno if you guys have heard about Vape Train Australia concentrates lately? I've only heard good things, everyone's been raving about them so they were prob the next new flavours I was gonna pick up, but it's always handy to have some FA around for lower percentage mixes.

Thecageyone wrote: »

Not heard of them, will have to have a peek! I can't remember why I never ordered from chef's. I remember trying a couple of times but met some issues when trying to check out, it's been a while, probably all different now? I've rarely had any issues with Darkstar, there's always codes, they're very good quality and when things do go wrong they will make up for it. I had a bottle of nic from them with a dodgy child-proof cap, I basically had to drill a hole through the top and de-cant the nic into other bottles because it would not open. They sent out a fresh bottle free of charge, allowing me keep the original one, another time they sent the wrong concentrate in a pack so they sent out 90ml of it in place of the original 30ml I'd ordered.

Chefs have a great selection and the staff are brilliant. Frequent discount codes and giveaways too if you're part of their Facebook group. The website is still bad though, especially when busy. They're working on a new one so you might want to wait for that.

Had a similar experience with Darkstar. I got a call from DPD saying there was a broken glass bottle in my package which had to be removed, and I got the rest of my order repackaged cover in liquid. Turns out it was 500ml of PG nic, and also my litre of VG had leaked a tiny bit. They sent out replacement nic, 250ml of VG and covered postage. They didn't pack the glass too well again though so I wouldn't order that again from them. Luckily I'm vaping 1.5mg and moving down every few months so the nic I have left would more than last until I'm on 0mg (hopefully) successfully.

iba wrote: »

Hi,

Sorry when you referred to VG I thought you were talking about nicotine VG. I now understand that you were not.

So where can I buy this VG please in Ireland or online (EU/UK) please and thank you.

Cheers

Yeah I meant VG, pretty hard stock up on that for travel, I'm sure you can get it just about anywhere though.

As for the nic, the link IRISH just posted is the only one I know of atm too.

Maybe the Country is N.Korea :D:D

iba wrote: »

When looking at dark star website is it recommended that I get the concentrates under 'flavour concentrates'. And if yes, is it recommended to get the Dark Arts concentrates or one of the others, eg Dark Star or Flavor Apprentice etc?

I also see another category called 'One Shot Concentrates' and I don't understand the difference between this category and the 'Flavour Concentrates' category.

Thanks.

I always use this to calculate my recipes: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/create

Input the 7800ml, set it to 6mg, set the nic strength to 72mg doesn't matter about the PG/VG ratio just choose one at 100% and scroll down to where the recipe would be - remember, the Nic takes up a % of the mix

As for the concentrates, what are you more comfortable with? do you want the flavors pre-mixed in a bottle that you only need add VG and nic to? then go for bottle shots, they are handy but you pay extra for someone else mixing. The one shots are also pre-mix recipes, you need your own bottles just like you would for full DIY, you just pop the one shot into your bottle, and again add VG and nic. A little bit more working out.

Personally, I just prefer buying single flavor concentrates and coming up with my own concoctions, it's a bit of fun, think of it like a hobby to go with your vaping. And you can really tailor your juice to your personal taste. I use them all, TFA, Capella, Dark Arts [which is actually Flavorart re-bottled, so good stuff] and Inawera [very, very strong, less % needed and they have some odd flavors, but some gems too]

If you want the best value, go for TFA and Dark Art and use the code 'SUPERCODE' for 35% off, excellent value on already very competitive pricing. The code doesn't cover the others, but you can of course still add some into your order. The code will just cover the TFA and DA concentrates

40% OFF WITH CODE '30ML40' for the next 48hrs...

damon5 wrote: »

I decided instead to buy some 10 ml bottles of ejuice 18ml nic so checked out Vape Wild and for new customers they have 10 bottles of 10 ml ejuice for 1 euro and thats including shipping :eek::eek::eek:
Now the thing is their max nic is 12 mg and i,d prefer 18 mg that i vape at the moment so wondering how and by how much it would take to raise nic to 18 by using some 7.2 that i have ?
Also bought a 60ml bottle eliquid shortfill and wondering how much of the 7.2 nic would i need to mix with it to end up with 18 mg of nic.
On the bottle of 7.2 nic it says 100% PG ,cheers.

7.2% nic, yeah, 72mg?

100ml 12mg + 11ml 72mg = 111ml of 17.9459459459mg liquid

damon5 wrote: »

Cheers Grindle so how much 7.2 nic would i have to add to each 10ml bottle of ready to vape 12mg nic to bring it to 18mg ?

1.1ml - would be easier to mix altogether in a bottle larger than 100ml. Unless they're all different flavours obviously.

damon5 wrote: »

How much 7.2 nic then would i have to mix with the no nic 50ml shortfill bottle to get 18mg nic ?

16.66ml - but if that's a flavour concentrate it'll be overpowering - what ratio is the concentrate meant to be at?

damon5 wrote: »

Do you have a simplified link on the web where it shows how to work out the amount of 7.2 nic to add to ejuice with varying nic content to end up with 18mg,cheers.

https://ecigvape.com/e-liquid-calculator-allows-flavors-with-nicotine

damon5 wrote: »

Yep there all differant flavours,got 10 ml bottles to try them out and the ones that i hopefully will like i will buy them in the 50 ml juice which will be easier to mix the nic with.The 50ml shortfill bottles ( well they call them 60ml bottles 50ml of juice and room for 10ml nic ) here it is and no concentrate https://vapewild.eu/on-cloud-custard-e-liquid-60ml-short-fill/ ......thanks for the link too

Hiya Damon,welcome back...

Here is a simple calculator which was in Grindles link...

https://ecigvape.com/simple-e-liquid-calculator

Just change the Base Nic to 72...
Target ... 18mg is already selected by default...
Amount to make...your shortfill is 50ml..............just change it to 10 for your 10ml bottles...

Now hit Calculate....results are below.

grindle wrote: »

His 10ml bottles have 12mg nic in them, that's why I went for the slightly more finicky calculator. The simple calc works fine for the 50ml shortfill but useless for mixing two differing strengths.

I have always used a simple calculator like this one & all I did was change the target to 6mg & that brought the 12mg up to 18mg,the result comes to 0.8333 ml of 72 Nic which you add to the 12mg 10ml bottle which gives you 18mg.
I'm not saying I'm right but that's the way I've been calculating for years with no probs.

How much nic does the other calculator say to add.

grindle wrote: »

1.1ml to the 10ml bottle

16.66ml to the nicless stuff.

Before he asked for a calc he could use himself I was doing the maths in excel and can confirm their calc is correct - you may have been weaning yourself off the nic! PANIC! MUST INCREASE LEVELS!!!

I was close enough in my mix & it tasted just right to me because I always give one or two drops for the road:D:D:D:D sometimes an extra ml of nic in a 50ml mix...:)

Update on Flavour Boss Cola Slush ..... Only use in rda's.
Not suitable for tanks or squonk bottles.

youdipstick wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FzKZMZzEZQ

He's right about the Lemon Meringue Pie. I've made a few versions of my recipe around this. On the latest version I added FA Lemon Sicily, FA Meringue and some sweetener and to be honest it just doesn't need that much added.

I've got to pick up some guava though, I've had it in a few oneshots and it's a great flavour. Any recommendations for you guys' favourite guava concentrates?

grindle wrote: »

Capella Sweet Guava. Really gorgeous. Had some of the others which were very highly concentrated and it tasted so chemically you kind of had to hide it in other tropical flavours but Sweet Guava is outstanding.

Cool I'll try that one, thanks! The others sound like they might be ok for layering or boosting other flavours, like Inawera Cactus can do, but I'll have to Google a bit to see.

damon5 wrote: »

Just checked out that calculater and it says 12.5 of 72 nic with amount to make 50mls,wouldnt that make the final amount 62.5 mls.I was thinking along the lines that to have a finish of 50mls in total VG,PG,18ml nic and flavouring ( i wouldnt have a clue what amount i would need to add) that i would have to take out 12.5ml from the shortfall bottle and replace it with the 12.5 nic to end up with 50ml of product that includes 18ml nic ?
On another note doing a bit of spring cleaning i came across an old shoebox and had to have a gander,inside was 10ml,20ml and 60ml bottles of juice that i bought from bargain vape and esmoke ireland in 2013.I wasnt vaping long and finding it hard to get juice that i liked untill i tried El Toro 24mg nic,sat down on the couch and was having some real deep drags and enjoying every minute untill all of a sudden i crashed.I started to sweat like mad and got as dizzy as hell with a pain in my chest and i thought that was it
Anyway I cant see any expiry dates and some have been opened but theres a couple of 60mls that havent been,would you say that all of them or just the two unopened 60mls should be nicely mature by now and so will be a nice vape or liquid poison .

Those shortfills are a pain if you need 18mg,no probs with 6mg for DL vaping.

If I need 18mg,I empty the shortfill into a beaker or mug & I use the whisker to mix that & Nic,better doing it this way,shaking a bottle is ok when it is already mixed,then just put 50ml back in the bottle & the rest into another small bottle.

I've vaped juice 3 years after sell by date & it was good,the opened bottles you have,I would bin,the Nic strength would be diminished but the sealed bottles should still be ok,some may lose the flavour a little,all depends on the juice,give it a vape & see...

You crashing like that,sounds like the Nic has improved:D:D:D I never liked el toro back then but I would blame the old tanks & coils for that,I'm sure I'd like it now with all the up to date tanks,somebody on another thread was looking for the el toro range,not sure if it's still available.

youdipstick wrote: »

Those shortfills are a pain if you need 18mg,no probs with 6mg for DL vaping.

If I need 18mg,I empty the shortfill into a beaker or mug & I use the whisker to mix that & Nic,better doing it this way,shaking a bottle is ok when it is already mixed,then just put 50ml back in the bottle & the rest into another small bottle.

I've vaped juice 3 years after sell by date & it was good,the opened bottles you have,I would bin,the Nic strength would be diminished but the sealed bottles should still be ok,some may lose the flavour a little,all depends on the juice,give it a vape & see...

You crashing like that,sounds like the Nic has improved:D:D:D I never liked el toro back then but I would blame the old tanks & coils for that,I'm sure I'd like it now with all the up to date tanks,somebody on another thread was looking for the el toro range,not sure if it's still available.

Good idea using the beaker,mug and whisker for mixing instead of a shake in the 50ml bottle,how long would i need to steep that 50ml " Vape Wild on cloud custard " ?
Will definitely dump out any opened bottles so,dont want to end up in the A&E :eek:

damon5 wrote: »

Good idea using the beaker,mug and whisker for mixing instead of a shake in the 50ml bottle,how long would i need to steep that 50ml " Vape Wild on cloud custard " ?
Will definitely dump out any opened bottles so,dont want to end up in the A&E :eek:

Custards,Creams & Bakery flavours need at least a week,preferably 2 to 4 weeks is ideal,they just get better in time.

Fruits & Tobacco,no steeping needed.

I find that shaking a bottle for the first mix does not blend the flavour & nic too well,whereas the whisker really mixes the ingredients well,whisk for a good 4 or 5 mins.