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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Rather than asking stupid questions and making comments that you probably think are smart, why not look at the alternative systems of voting used in other European democracies? And if you don't know where to look, then why not ask a grown-up to help you.
    Mainly because I'm not one of the ones outraged at this "unjust" system. I'd have thought those complaining would have known WHAT they actually wanted instead.

    I guess it has not been thought that far ahead then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Stunt? Where the **** would you like them to sleep? The middle of a motor way?

    And I didn't know homeless people had a bad rep.

    You right-wing fanatics on boards are turning more & more closer to Fascism each day.
    Next they'll be saying just shot the homeless, kids & all, like the Nazi's did with people who were a so-called "embarssment" to the state.

    You people are some cold hearted bastards.

    Page 1 of the "How to deal with people on the internet who have different opinions to you: 2018" manual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,571 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'm sure it's already been mentioned but I was just reading an article there she was saying the place she was given "will do for now" and then started whinging about having to go to Tallaght with the kids when school starts up in Sept.

    Don't know if it can be mentioned here but I read what the husband is accused of as well, what a fookin scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Rather than asking stupid questions and making comments that you probably think are smart, why not look at the alternative systems of voting used in other European democracies? And if you don't know where to look, then why not ask a grown-up to help you.

    Good luck getting anything other than that from this user.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Good luck getting anything other than that from this user.

    What a suprise to see you here. Critiquing my posts again. I can send you an autograph if you like?


    She did answer anyway to having no clue anyway.

    Do you have anything on topic to add?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    She gets enough money from the state to rent but has failed to get anywhere on the island and now wants to be put at the top of a housing list by getting her kids to pose in a garda station.
    Its all a stunt and you've obviously fallen for it!


    Maybe I am but that doesn't mean it's not a stunt!

    Yep, it's all a stunt. Several thousand sleeping rough in Dublin every night, stunt, their all just sleeping rough to get ahead of the quee, it's a criminal conspiracy.

    And so what if it was a stunt? If I was in her shoes I'd pull every string, to make sure my 6 kids get a proper home.

    I remember a few months ago watching a documentary East Germany about people who used to live in the state, they said they were glad all the restrictions on what they could & couldn't do were gone but missed the certainy of having a roof over their head, food in their stomach & having a job (And that Stalin loved them j/k).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman



    And so what if it was a stunt? If I was in her shoes I'd pull every string, to make sure my 6 kids get a proper home.

    And what would you pull if you were homeless and her stunt led to her getting the 3 bed apartment that was earmarked for you?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    And so what if it was a stunt? If I was in her shoes I'd pull every string, to make sure my 6 kids get a proper home.
    She gets a grand a week into her hand courtesy of the taxpayer.
    Tell me why she was unable to find a home anywhere and was forced to sleep rough with her brood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Page 1 of the "How to deal with people on the internet who have different opinions to you: 2018" manual.

    Page 2 of the "How to distract people on the internet with facts that ar staring you in the face & ruining your argument: 2018" manual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I can't wait for Page 3.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Yep, it's all a stunt. Several thousand sleeping rough in Dublin every night, stunt, their all just sleeping rough to get ahead of the quee, it's a criminal conspiracy.

    And so what if it was a stunt? If I was in her shoes I'd pull every string, to make sure my 6 kids get a proper home.

    I remember a few months ago watching a documentary East Germany about people who used to live in the state, they said they were glad all the restrictions on what they could & couldn't do were gone but missed the certainy of having a roof over their head, food in their stomach & having a job (And that Stalin loved them j/k).

    From the Focus Ireland website

    "In March 2018, the official rough sleeping count confirmed 110 people sleeping rough in Dublin, with an additional number in the Nite Café, without a place to sleep."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    She gets a grand a week into her hand courtesy of the taxpayer.
    Tell me why she was unable to find a home anywhere and was forced to sleep rough with her brood?

    A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.

    In 2009 I lost my job & I was on the dole for a year & a half, couldn't afford a flat of my of my own so I had to share with 3 other lads, and money was still tight, I got my dole on Monday and it was gone by the Saturday.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A grand a week with 7 mouths to feed 7 bodies to clothes goes nowhere.
    Is she dining in posh restaurants or what?
    A grand a week into the hand is way more than most people earn before tax and they get by. Why can she not manage on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    No point in apportioning any blame on Daly, Wallace or Murphy. They are not in govt., and more than likely will never be in govt.

    eh? its them and their ilk thats driving us into a welfare state. just because they are not in government, it doesnt mean the have no influence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    john4321 wrote: »
    From the Focus Ireland website

    "In March 2018, the official rough sleeping count confirmed 110 people sleeping rough in Dublin, with an additional number in the Nite Café, without a place to sleep."

    That's an insane amount considering March 2018 was the coldest wheather Ireland had in years.

    Not a wonder so many homeless are dropping off.

    I actualy use to know a homeless guy who was in a wheelchair who lived in Bray, first he lost legs to frost bite, and then ended up freezing to death. That was about 10 years ago before everything turned to sh!t for the middle class as well as the poor & working class who had been in sh!t since before the Anglo-Irish treaty..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    That's an insane amount considering March 2018 was the coldest wheather Ireland had in years.

    Not a wonder so many homeless are dropping off.

    I actualy use to know a homeless guy who was in a wheelchair who lived in Bray, first he lost legs to frost bite, and then ended up freezing to death. That was about 10 years ago before everything turned to sh!t for the middle class as well as the poor & working class who had been in sh!t since before the Anglo-Irish treaty..

    For a metropolitan population of 1.8 million I think it's a pretty low figure it will never be zero unfortunately . There is nearly as many homeless charities in existence as there are rough sleepers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Stunt? Where the **** would you like them to sleep? The middle of a motor way?

    And I didn't know homeless people had a bad rep.

    You right-wing fanatics on boards are turning more & more closer to Fascism each day.
    Next they'll be saying just shot the homeless, kids & all, like the Nazi's did with people who were a so-called "embarssment" to the state.

    You people are some cold hearted bastards.

    Insulting people who disagree with you?

    Calling them fascists and Nazis?

    What a horrifically stereotypical post. When you don't have an answer play the nazi facist card.

    The Nazis actually had a number of social welfare programs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil and Labour are to blame. You can’t blame PBP, Socialist Party, Sinn Féin for this mess.

    During the boom McCreevy was increasing child benefit rates at every budget. Lone parent was until recently paid up until the child was 14 Ffs. A woman could live most of her working age life on benefits just by having more children.

    With the legalisation of abortion in this country there’s now an opportunity to abolish lone parent and child benefits completely. Sponger turns up at welfare office or CWO seeking to claim money.

    “If you cant afford the child the nearest abortion clinic is here for an abortion. Claim rejected, Good day Ms”

    Prosecute parent(s) who bring a child into this world without the means to take care of it. Billed by the state for care of the child by HSE/Tusla. (Another topic for another thread)

    If you’re a man under 25 you’re only entitled to €100/150 JSA. You don’t seek work and you’re sanctioned. A woman just has to drop out a child and she gets bumped up to full €198 rate on lone parent guaranteed for at least 7 years. Reduced rates should be applicable immediately for Lone Parent Allowance too. It’ll discourage young scumbag families from breeding children like cattle to maximize their incomes.
    Abolish child benefits for children born on 00:00 January 2020. Existing claimants paid in lieu of vouchers for food, clothing, educational materials dispensed by schools based on attendance after age 4. Ban school uniforms nationwide or at least have them all the same colour with iron on crests provides by the schools.
    I assume the btsa was paid yesterday? All the scumbag type families in Nenagh and Thurles scanning cases of alcohol and party cups at the self service tills.

    Priority housing firstly for elderly, disabled, vulnerable/genuinely homeless people, those who’ve lost their houses to the banks and longest on waiting list . Prosecution for neglect and removal of children from parents like Ms Cash who try to jump up the list.

    Benefits suspended for any form of antisocial behavior by claimants or their children over 12. Deductions on resumption for any damages/loss they have caused.

    Before you think I’ve got something against people on benefits. I support increases for those on JSA genuinely seeking work and disability claimants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman



    I actualy use to know a homeless guy who was in a wheelchair who lived in Bray, first he lost legs to frost bite, and then ended up freezing to death. That was about 10 years ago before everything turned to sh!t for the middle class as well as the poor & working class who had been in sh!t since before the Anglo-Irish treaty..


    That was probably poor Paul D***e RIP. who suffered from alcohol and mental health problems. He had been sent to rehab but couldn't hack it. His parents lived nearby but he wouldn't (or couldn't) live with them.

    Hard to understand why any half-decent human being would make a smartass remark about the Anglo-Irish agreement when discussing his tragic life and death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    And sorry that's my mix-up I should have said homeless not sleeping rough.
    There were 9,874 people homeless in the week of June 18th-24th 2018 across Ireland. This figure includes adults and children with their families.

    https://www.focusireland.ie/resource-hub/about-homelessness/

    So nearly 10,000 homeless people in Ireland.

    Even still tho, over 100 sleeping rough in Dublin in March 2018 is a stain on this island.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    I'm sure it's already been mentioned but I was just reading an article there she was saying the place she was given "will do for now" and then started whinging about having to go to Tallaght with the kids when school starts up in Sept.

    Don't know if it can be mentioned here but I read what the husband is accused of as well, what a fookin scumbag.

    Yes I saw that.

    We don't know how it was said in the sense she could have been just stating facts or she could have been complaining about the travel time.

    If the latter then she may question the wisdom of having so many kids in the first place. These are the types of questions responsible couples ask themselves before having kids in the first place.

    She also said about wanting a house in Tallaght. This is really taking the biscuit. How many of us would like to live in a certain place but alas, the realities of life don't permit. If we want to live in a certain place because we like it then most of us have simply to work and earn it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Stunt? Where the **** would you like them to sleep? The middle of a motor way?

    And I didn't know homeless people had a bad rep.

    You right-wing fanatics on boards are turning more & more closer to Fascism each day.
    Next they'll be saying just shot the homeless, kids & all, like the Nazi's did with people who were a so-called "embarssment" to the state.

    You people are some cold hearted bastards.

    Howya MARY.. Just like you think you are entitled to a grand a week and a free gaf you are entitled to your opinion..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    Some politicians think the working taxpayer is a bottomless pit of money to fund welfare:

    https://m.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/tax-plan-to-hit-squeezed-middle-for-extra-250-37227765.html

    What is the point of getting out of working at all? Unless you are on the guts of €100K you are no better off than people on welfare who know how to work the system and have time to earn "unofficial" money on the side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Turnipman wrote: »
    That was probably poor Paul D***e RIP. who suffered from alcohol and mental health problems. He had been sent to rehab but couldn't hack it. His parents lived nearby but he wouldn't (or couldn't) live with them.

    Hard to understand why any half-decent human being would make a smartass remark about the Anglo-Irish agreement when discussing his tragic life and death.

    People used to call him Buller.

    And WTF are you on about? What smartass remark?
    That's a fact that the Irish working class in the early 20th century were barely surviving. Dublin was the poorest city in Western Europe & one of the top 5 in Europe. Just look at some of the pictures of the Dublin slums from around 1910, young lads from about 6- 14 years old who can't even afford shoes or socks on their feet & are half starving. Without the safety net that so many far-right people on here would like to destroy we'd be back to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Emme wrote: »
    Some politicians think the working taxpayer is a bottomless pit of money to fund welfare:

    https://m.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/tax-plan-to-hit-squeezed-middle-for-extra-250-37227765.html

    What is the point of getting out of working at all? Unless you are on the guts of €100K you are no better off than people on welfare who know how to work the system and have time to earn "unofficial" money on the side.

    The failures of Capitalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    Priority housing firstly for elderly, disabled, vulnerable/genuinely homeless people, those who’ve lost their houses to the banks and longest on waiting list . Prosecution for neglect and removal of children from parents like Ms Cash who try to jump up the list.

    So basically leaving the housing list alone .


    those on the longest should be housed as quickly as possible ,
    Separate list for the elderly and disabled (maybe run by a housing association for their needs )

    Proper rents for those in social housing below market but about the low rents currently charged failure to pay rents in social housing (evictions and no access to social housing ) until you prove you will pay rents ,
    Pulling stunts or solicitation to the media to skip the que automatic removal from the list


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    And sorry that's my mix-up I should have said homeless not sleeping rough.



    https://www.focusireland.ie/resource-hub/about-homelessness/

    So nearly 10,000 homeless people in Ireland.

    Even still tho, over 100 sleeping rough in Dublin in March 2018 is a stain on this island.

    The 10000 number is fake news.

    Those who are truly homeless are those on the streets... many of whom choose to be there and won’t accept emergency accommodation.

    100 of 1.8 million is a tiny tiny number.

    Homeless crisis = fake news pushed by PBP AAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Howya MARY.. Just like you think you are entitled to a grand a week and a free gaf you are entitled to your opinion..

    Mary? I'm not a virgin.

    Not unless we rise up & take your opinion of ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Emme wrote: »
    Some politicians think the working taxpayer is a bottomless pit of money to fund welfare:

    https://m.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/tax-plan-to-hit-squeezed-middle-for-extra-250-37227765.html

    What is the point of getting out of working at all? Unless you are on the guts of €100K you are no better off than people on welfare who know how to work the system and have time to earn "unofficial" money on the side.

    That article is more about state pensions. That’s going to cost us big time in the next few years.

    Genuine JSA and Disability, carers Allowance etc a €5 increase is nothing tbh. That’s how much was added to their weekly shop in the past few weeks. No one chooses to be disabled/ill and failures to knock the very very small percentage of those not seeking work/spongers off JSA is the fault of the Dept SW.

    I’m sick of paying tax to support lone parents/child benefits for children that were conceived for income.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    The 10000 number is fake news.

    Those who are truly homeless are those on the streets... many of whom choose to be there and won’t accept emergency accommodation.

    100 of 1.8 million is a tiny tiny number.

    Homeless crisis = fake news pushed by PBP AAA

    Fake News? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a yes Triple A have left the car insurance business to go into the Fake News business.
    Thanks I needed that.

    I wonder will the Daily Show, John Olivier or Colbert put your post on one of their shows this week.


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