Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

Cina wrote: »

Not trying to be funny here but why do you think that? Places like boards and Reddit are predominantly left-leaning places and the majority consensus on these sites is similar (albeit much less extreme) to yours.

Anyone who said anything on Twitter that could be considered "centrist" or "right" leaning tends to get put aside by the left who all share / like retweet "can't beleive this was said". They also tended to conflate her story with the overall housing / homeless problem, as well as sometimes generic "support women" issue.

This issue was discussed on reddit in a fair few topics and I would say it was 50/50 in viewpoints and some of the top comments were those that questioned her story and said we can't allow flagrant abuses of our strained system, such as someone who has used social media to draw attention to their position.

My personal view is that we must give her what's needed for the kids to be safe and have stable rearing. But that doesn't mean she's beyond approach or the story is beyond question.

However she doesn't get to dictate it, if the only house suitable for 7 is outside Dublin or even outside a preferred area within Dublin and she refuses it, then she has chosen to be homeless and there should be no responsiblity on anyone else to solve that choice.

We hear of refusals of housing due to area ("rough" area) and condition and that is a problem. A problem in that perhaps councils shouldn't be allowed to offer them (condition) and also that people refuse them (area) because they're happy enough to wait for a "better" option.

I don't think her story or motives should be above approach simply because of the crisis, mostly because as a result she will likely move to the top and get something that someone else will be deprived of.

I've not seen people anyone so far become outraged at the story of someone who has served 17 years in our defence force and whose wife has a part time job (while they have a sick child) who is also homeless, or seek to discover who the other families were. She got all the attention and now all the benefits.

They only cared and discussed it because it allowed them to maintain a smug superiority over anyone who has a "hot take" (as Emmett Kirwan put it) or because it allowed them to conflate it with other existing problems and that if you had problems with this, then you have problems with those issues.

If Margaret truly feels strongly about the issue I hope she does something about it. Not just wait for the personal situation to become sorted and then sit on her hands.

How did she end up homeless, does anyone know?

na1 wrote: »

But he might raise 7 decent taxpayers out of their children.

Maybe he might

Gatling wrote: »

She claimed the house was reprosessed and it wasn't the first time she made the claim her home was being reprosessed

Twice. Interesting, as I heard that she was made homeless twice allright, but it had little to do with reposession.

I saw some numpty here earlier arguing with a guy who doesnt declare tips to revenue....therefore defrauding the State.

Apparently he is worse than this Cash wan and her ilk.

Is there no limit to the amount of welfare an individual can claim?

If you hand out more than €30,000 in welfare a year to somone, sure why would they bother attempting to get a job.

I'm wondering what exactly has Cash contributed to the State or has she always just taken.

Any ablebodied person who is physically capable of working and has been on the dole for 5 years should have it scrapped.

5 years or 1,875 days is a very generous time to secure employment. Theres no excuse.

So things were pretty dire in 2015 but they still had another baby :rolleyes:

Poor Margaret wouldn't agree

Margaret also confirmed she was once busted by cops for handling stolen goods when she was younger.

“That is going back years ago. That’s stupid, none of that has nothing to do with what’s going on now.

“If I was a murderer or a rapist, it wouldn’t make a difference, everybody has a human right to be housed, to have a home.

“No matter what I done in my past, it doesn’t take away the fact that I have a right to be housed.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6997892/homeless-mum-sleep-police-station-six-kids-blasts-facebook-trolls/

They don't but Solidarity are pushing that agenda

Dáil defeats Bill that would make housing a constitutional right
Dun Laoghaire TD Richard Boyd Barrett has called the government “shameful” for not supporting the Bill.

THE DÁIL HAS voted to defeat a Solidarity-PBP Bill which aims to make housing a constitutional right.
Uniting with Fianna Fáil, the government defeated the Right to Housing Bill by 73 votes to 37. Instead, the Bill is to be sent to the Oireachtas Finance Committee for consideration.

Dun Laoghaire TD Richard Boyd Barrett has called the government “shameful” for not supporting the Bill, stating that the Constitutional Convention recommended that the right to housing be included in the Constitution a number of years ago.

http://www.thejournal.ie/right-to-housing-bill-3609627-Sep2017/

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

That's some enabling bu115h1t right there.

Therein lies the perception / reality void

Gatling wrote: »

I wonder what would have happened to this family it they turned up in a Garda station


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-soldier-and-young-family-left-homeless-despite-17-years-with-defence-forces-36030977.html

Going by this thread they should be turfed back on the streets and she should get a job.

pjohnson wrote: »

Going by this thread they should be turfed back on the streets and he should get a job.

You don't see a difference in people who have tried , worked , paid taxes and looked after themselves and those who did not at any stage ?