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Protesters occupy privately owned house to raise awarness?

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    sexmag wrote: »
    Exactly, what you've HEARD from some randomner on the net.

    You haven't a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

    For all you know could be a family who are waiting for planning permission to do it up so they came move in and now there's loads of people squatting for however long

    Or it could be worse, these might be tax dodging and up to nefarious activities. Now that this group have highlighted and brought exposure to this landlord, he should be investigated and we'll find out what he's been up to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    In the good old days we called that B&E and trespass.

    Tenner says not one of the "activists" has seen a payslip. Ever.

    Wasters.

    Activist just seems to be a synonym of layabout these days.

    The answer to every problem is another fúcking handout, it's never getting their crusty holes out to work a bit earlier in the morning, or staying there a bit later in the evening.

    I honestly can't stand these sort of cúnts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    sexmag wrote: »
    Exactly, what you've HEARD from some randomner on the net.

    You haven't a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

    For all you know could be a family who are waiting for planning permission to do it up so they came move in and now there's loads of people squatting for however long

    And that randomer "heard" it somewhere too.

    Jesus there are some gullible folk around these parts.

    What bit of "it's someone else's proprerty" do these idiots not get ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Summerhill Occupation on Facebook has plenty of background on the reasoning for doing this.

    Oh well, if it's on Facebook......!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    . There are many in terrible situations and these protesters are going out of their way to help them in anyway they can..

    Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    . This should be supported, they're clearly decent people.

    We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    Oh well, if it's on Facebook......!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    "STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

    What:
    35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

    The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

    Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

    Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

    Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

    Our immediate demand:
    Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

    All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

    We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

    The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




    In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such.

    Also "We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership" bit gets me the best, so if someone has a holiday home they use once a year should that be put up too?? Gangsters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Summerhill Occupation on Facebook has plenty of background on the reasoning for doing this.

    probably just doing it so they can protest croke park concerts as well


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



    We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

    Have that poster's current incarnation on ignore but saw it through your reply.

    Amazing how you can "clearly see" the trespassers are "decent people" in the same way as it can be "clearly seen" the landlord is some kind of robber baron who is fiddling his taxes!

    Mental!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Champagne socialist no doubt, probably college going rich kids trying to alleviate their guilt ala Paul Murphy and Boyd Barrett.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,209 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Somebody obviously because nothing has been done about it. Plus, we got extra detail on the landlord in question here. Raising awareness of his behaviour can only be a good thing.

    what would you like done?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    sexmag wrote: »
    "STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

    What:
    35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

    The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

    Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

    Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

    Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

    Our immediate demand:
    Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

    All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

    We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

    The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




    In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such

    God they are thicker and worse than I thought!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Its been done and didn't work.arrest their asses and throw them out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    lawred2 wrote: »
    what would you like done?

    A massive social housing build of course!!!

    All paid for by the tax payer and people already paying a mortgage.

    These morons want you to double pay your mortgage so someone else can live in a house for next to nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    , a greedy landlord who wants to make profit off the back of others suffering.

    By not letting out a house on which he could get considerable rental income, rents are at an all time high are they not?

    You're going to have to explain this evil master plan to me, I must to be missing a step or two!


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



    We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

    Like was said, highlight awareness, show that these people haven't been forgotten about, pressurise those who can do something about this. It's a good thing, they're not just sitting around, they're going and doing something about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    What's going to happen next Tuesday when these wasters have to leave the house to collect their dole and leave the house unoccupied?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



    We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

    Have that poster's current incarnation on ignore but saw it through your reply.

    Amazing how you can "clearly see" the trespassers are "decent people" in the same way as it can be "clearly seen" the landlord is some kind of robber baron who is fiddling his taxes!

    Mental!!
    An utterly bitter and twisted loon who effectively exists on here to try (and ultimately fail) to wind other posters up. Someone whom you're absolutely right to have on ignore.

    These "activists" are just a shower of wasters committing a crime.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    sexmag wrote: »
    "STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

    What:
    35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

    The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

    Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

    Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

    Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

    Our immediate demand:
    Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

    All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

    We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

    The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




    In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such.

    Also "We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership" bit gets me the best, so if someone has a holiday home they use once a year should that be put up too?? Gangsters

    It's strange the way different people can look at things and come to a completely different conclusion. To me it looks like the O'Donnells are the gangsters!


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Champagne socialist no doubt, probably college going rich kids trying to alleviate their guilt ala Paul Murphy and Boyd Barrett.

    I thought they never worked before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    From what I understand of the situation the owner is turning Summerhill into a slum in a bid to lower property values. He owns significant land and wishes to build yet more glass and concrete monstrosity offices on it.

    The people of Dublin are being priced out of their city and some are saying that enough is enough.


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  • Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The owners have applied for planning permission to turn the property into offices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    There's been plenty on the various investigative websites about the owners being amongst the absolute worst type of inner city slum landlords.

    So whilst I wouldn't normally condone this type of direct action I think in this case it has some merit.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    lawred2 wrote: »
    what would you like done?

    Something to improve the situation. I'm not in government, I'm not an expert on this kind of thing. Either the government aren't either or they just don't want to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    P_1 wrote: »
    From what I understand of the situation the owner is turning Summerhill into a slum in a bid to lower property values. He owns significant land and wishes to build yet more glass and concrete monstrosity offices on it.

    The people of Dublin are being priced out of their city and some are saying that enough is enough.

    Well then storm the city council offices or legally fight the challenge if they aren't happy, this kind of crap will lead to homeless people breaking into properties and saying "well they did it and told me to do it"


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    By not letting out a house on which he could get considerable rental income, rents are at an all time high are they not?

    You're going to have to explain this evil master plan to me, I must to be missing a step or two!

    Read boom baps posts or the facebook page.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    What's going to happen next Tuesday when these wasters have to leave the house to collect their dole and leave the house unoccupied?

    No, they're champagne socialists. They have bigger houses than you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Like was said, highlight awareness, show that these people haven't been forgotten about, pressurise those who can do something about this. It's a good thing, they're not just sitting around, they're going and doing something about it.

    You think demanding someone else buys you a house is "doing something about" your housing situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    sexmag wrote: »
    Well then storm the city council offices or legally fight the challenge if they aren't happy, this kind of crap will lead to homeless people breaking into properties and saying "well they did it and told me to do it"

    Hasn't that been tried before and failed?

    Not gonna break out the Einstein quote but you get the drift


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    An utterly bitter and twisted loon who effectively exists on here to try (and ultimately fail) to wind other posters up. Someone whom you're absolutely right to have on ignore.

    These "activists" are just a shower of wasters committing a crime.

    I have that other poster on ignore. :D

    I have posted in a reasonable fashion and only offered my support to these decent people trying to help. I hope the mods sort out the personal abuse dished out by you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,209 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    You think demanding someone else buys you a house is "doing something about" your housing situation?

    you're obviously not an expert on this


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