Protesters occupy privately owned house to raise awarness?

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 2:07pm

Uriel. wrote: »

are you making that accusation?

Reported that too Uriel - posters can't go throwing out baseless allegations.

jobbridge4life · 08-08-2018 2:08pm

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I rent, if I miss a payment I could be kicked out.

I dont miss because I was brought up responsibly.

I'm talking - as you well know - about the crowd who want to live for free and these are the scumbags who the "protestors" are facilitating.

As I understand it, this occupation is in response to the eviction of 20 latin americans livinig in the house. I don't imagine that these 20 individuals were residing on welfare, do you have any reason to suggest otherwise?

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 2:08pm

Gatling wrote: »

So who's signed up to adopt a homeless person for Christmas ,
The last two adopt a homeless or immigrant didn't go so well .

No boardsie adopted a single homeless person or immigrant .

I meant to but sure I've still the three Syrians in the garage.

B-D-P-- · 08-08-2018 2:08pm

Sorry but not reading full thread, Just passing the laugh,

I read title as
"Protestants occupy privately owned house to raise awarness"

JohnnyFlash · 08-08-2018 2:08pm

Usual protest. Bunch of middle-class lefties students, a few real lefties from the socialist and workers party, and some gougers from eirigi and republican sf telling people that getting someone else to pay for their house is a fundamental human right.

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:09pm

Uriel. wrote: »

are you making that accusation?

It seemed like you forgot to change accounts, you responded to a post directed at a poster of a different name. Maybe you have some explanation?

Red_Wake · 08-08-2018 2:09pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Red_Wake wrote: »

I see there's been a few unsubstantiated allegations about the owners being slumlords. No doubt this will be repeated as fact ad nauseum with each moron pointing to another's post as evidence.

Any documentation or links to back this up?

There's people on the ground who have local knowledge and information on this. Much more credible than those stating all the protesters are on the dole or living next to their ma despite not knowing who they are.

"People on the ground" were behind the Apollo House debacle, and they turned out to charlatans in the end, with a hefty sum of money disappearing down their back pocket for their trouble.

No doubt this is a repeat.

I read that slumleaks blog, a lot of allegations, but lacks any substance;

Pat O'Donnell is a director of a company which bought a property to redevelop into offices[this is not any evidence of slumlord activity].

Pat O'Donnell is the landlord of the Summerhill properties, with a picture of him entering a doorway as evidence of this, with another pic of Myles O'Donoghue entering a property[not even identifiable if this is the Summerhill property or not] with a man with a bald spot[the blog assumes this man is Pat O'Donnell] as proof.

I note that Slumleaks points to a letter from a company called Golden Rose Accommodation Limited, which is from Myles O'Donnell. They explain the discrepancy in surname by stating the company had misspelt the name[farcical].

That blog reads like a conspiracy theorists delusions, and is, quite frankly, crackpot bull****.

sbsquarepants · 08-08-2018 2:10pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

So you haven't read all their statements.

No. Another poster posted their statement demanding the properties be bought by the state and given to the good people of Summerhill. Sure why not.

I've been on another thread today about chicks with dicks and all the related pronouns that come with them, and I honestly don't think I have anymore capacity for bolloxology.

I'm genuinely afraid that if I hear Boyd Barrett on my way home from work this evening I may lack the mental strength to keep myself from swerving under an artic.

Subcomandante Marcos · 08-08-2018 2:10pm

mahamageehad wrote: »

This house in question has been vacant 2 months though. But yes, levies on houses vacant over 2 years or whatever time frame is a good idea. Pity this stunt will do absolutely nothing towards accomplishing that or anything that will help.

I think this house was picked more because it is owned by a slum lord than anything else. People like the LL of that property who have the gall to ram 20 desperate people in 1 property shouldn't just be fined, they should be jailed. The Agency who oversaw it should be fine massively too. There's far too much of this ****e going on in Dublin.

Uriel. · 08-08-2018 2:11pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

It seemed like you forgot to change accounts, you responded to a post directed at a poster of a different name. Maybe you have some explanation?

you mistake this for Soviet Russia.
I don't have to explain anything.

At least have the balls to directly accuse me rather than this clown around.

And when you do make the accusation directly, make sure to provide evidence.

Your mask fell on the ground btw.

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:12pm

Uriel. wrote: »

but what about those who protest against the protesters protesting about the protesters?

Don't we now know that those people are affiliated to or have close links with communist backed influence groups?

Landlords, many who are in government, are trying to tar the protesters as criminals, or freeloaders and other things like communists.

The truth is that there are huge numbers of homeless people and others really struggling. They shall not be silenced by the greedy landlords.

MarinersBlues · 08-08-2018 2:13pm

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

You heard it here folks - struggling to make ends meet for 30 years to keep a roof over your family's head is "a great deal".

Jesus wept.

In the comment I quoted the poster was acquiring equity in a valuable asset without affecting their own income/cashflow.

I fail to see the added extra struggle from increasing equity in a property, at no cost to them once all the other bills were paid.

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 2:14pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

In the comment I quoted the poster was acquiring equity in a valuable asset without affecting their own income/cashflow.

I fail to see the added extra struggle from increasing equity in a property, at no cost to them once all the other bills were paid.

That bit seems easy to those who have none to pay doesn't it ?????

Uriel. · 08-08-2018 2:15pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Landlords, many who are in government, are trying to tar the protesters as criminals, or freeloaders and other things like communists.

The truth is that there are huge numbers of homeless people and others really struggling. They shall not be silenced by the greedy landlords.

Newsflash, breaking and entering is criminal activity as is damage to property.
Those who do not and have not earned in their lives are freeloaders.
Some groups are communist leaning.

I am not seeing any attempts to silence anyone. You're acting delusional tbh.

JohnnyFlash · 08-08-2018 2:15pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No. Another poster posted their statement demanding the properties be bought by the state and given to the good people of Summerhill. Sure why not.

I've been on another thread today about chicks with dicks and all the related pronouns that come with them, and I honestly don't think I have anymore capacity for bolloxology.

I'm genuinely afraid that if I hear Boyd Barrett on my way home from work this evening I may lack the mental strength to keep myself from swerving under an artic.

Richard BB and Paul Murphy will be hightailing it in from Dalkey and Monkstown at any moment. This could be it lads - the start of the revolution!!!

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:15pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No. Another poster posted their statement demanding the properties be bought by the state and given to the good people of Summerhill. Sure why not.

I've been on another thread today about chicks with dicks and all the related pronouns that come with them, and I honestly don't think I have anymore capacity for bolloxology.

I'm genuinely afraid that if I hear Boyd Barrett on my way home from work this evening I may lack the mental strength to keep myself from swerving under an artic.

So you have a hatred of Boyd Barrett or whoever. Why should that stop you from supporting homeless people and other people in desperate situations?

jobbridge4life · 08-08-2018 2:15pm

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

That bit seems easy to those who have none to pay doesn't it ?????

Again, what are you talking about? Do you know Mariner's employment situation or is this more baselss trash talk?

Wheeliebin30 · 08-08-2018 2:16pm

About time the gravy train was put to an end for these spongers and leeches.

You want something in life go out and work for it, if you can’t afford it tough that’s life.

gctest50 · 08-08-2018 2:16pm

MarinersBlues wrote: »

In the comment I quoted the poster was acquiring equity in a valuable asset without affecting their own income/cashflow.

I fail to see the added extra struggle from increasing equity in a property, at no cost to them once all the other bills were paid.

If it's that easy, why are there :

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The truth is that there are huge numbers of homeless people and others really struggling. .

well ?

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:16pm

Uriel. wrote: »

you mistake this for Soviet Russia.
I don't have to explain anything.

At least have the balls to directly accuse me rather than this clown around.

And when you do make the accusation directly, make sure to provide evidence.

Your mask fell on the ground btw.

I don't have to do anything you tell me. This isn't Soviet Russia.

P_1 · 08-08-2018 2:17pm

Berserker wrote: »

Absolutely not. Occupying a house is not going to do anything to help those people.

My brother owns an apartment in Dublin city centre. He works in the USA and he comes back to Ireland twice a year. He tried to rent out the apartment a few years back but the tenants decided that paying rent was not for them and they also decided to re-decorate the place on leaving. Are you seriously telling me that he should be forced to open up that property and be subject to that treatment again?

I think we can differentiate between someone like your brother and two scumbag builders from Clare who are using questionable methods to squeeze out yet more profit

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:17pm

Uriel. wrote: »

Newsflash, breaking and entering is criminal activity as is damage to property.
Those who do not and have not earned in their lives are freeloaders.
Some groups are communist leaning.

I am not seeing any attempts to silence anyone. You're acting delusional tbh.

It's important to out those who are pro landlord or landlords themselves.

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:18pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

About time the gravy train was put to an end for these spongers and leeches.

You want something in life go out and work for it, if you can’t afford it tough that’s life.

Are you a landlord too?

jobbridge4life · 08-08-2018 2:18pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Richard BB and Paul Murphy will be hightailing it in from Dalkey and Monkstown at any moment. This could be it lads - the start of the revolution!!!

A revolution? Unlikely. A genuine large scale movement to address the housing crisis? Possibly, and that would be a good thing IMHO.

After all look at what emerged in respect of water charges (a much less serious issue). I supported water charges and still do, but no one can deny that it was the political galavanising of grass routes protest movement against the charges that brought them down.

Technocentral · 08-08-2018 2:19pm

As long as they dont damage the house in any way, fair play to them, homelessness and obscene rents based on speculation and profitt making are the real crime. People need to wake up.

DONTMATTER · 08-08-2018 2:19pm

gctest50 wrote: »

If it's that easy, why are there :

well ?

I don't think they said it was easy? They just exposed their poor mouth routine as nonsense.

Pkiernan · 08-08-2018 2:21pm

Technocentral wrote: »

As long as they dont damage the house in any way, fair play to them, homelessness and obscene rents based on speculation and profitt making are the real crime. People need to wake up.

Yes.

Also, they should be allowed to break in to your house and live in the unoccupied attic. How dare you have extra space when so many are homeless.

Varik · 08-08-2018 2:21pm

Technocentral wrote: »

As long as they dont damage the house in any way, fair play to them, homelessness and obscene rents based on speculation and profitt making are the real crime. People need to wake up.

And what happens when the owners insurance company drops them or increase the fee, or there is a need for a claim and the owner is out of luck.

Berserker · 08-08-2018 2:21pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Richard BB and Paul Murphy will be hightailing it in from Dalkey and Monkstown at any moment. This could be it lads - the start of the revolution!!!

Glen is performing in the Czech Republic. He'll be home in a few days to sing a few songs and read a few poems to them.

P_1 wrote: »

I think we can differentiate between someone like your brother and two scumbag builders from Clare who are using questionable methods to squeeze out yet more profit

Fair enough. The post I reacted to declared that all properties should be subject to this. Also, I know renters, medical students, who had to deal with these lads. Their feedback was far from positive!

mahamageehad · 08-08-2018 2:22pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

mahamageehad wrote: »

This house in question has been vacant 2 months though. But yes, levies on houses vacant over 2 years or whatever time frame is a good idea. Pity this stunt will do absolutely nothing towards accomplishing that or anything that will help.

I think this house was picked more because it is owned by a slum lord than anything else. People like the LL of that property who have the gall to ram 20 desperate people in 1 property shouldn't just be fined, they should be jailed. The Agency who oversaw it should be fine massively too. There's far too much of this ****e going on in Dublin.

They seem to be protesting the “illegal” eviction of those people rather than the conditions they were in. I agree that there should be stricter controls on ramming people like sardines into a property, again a bunch of eejits illegally occupying a private house will do nothing to achieving that. The failure of our current housing market is not only will people not protest cramped conditions, they’ll pay through the nose for it because there are few other options. None of this excuses breaking and entering and squatting imo.

Protesters occupy privately owned house to raise awarness?

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