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Protesters occupy privately owned house to raise awarness?

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    #152
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Who are you?
    Who I am is none of your business and I've as much right to post here as you do.
    Do you have 2 accounts you're posting under?

    why would you suggest that.


    so are you going to post some information from a credible source or continue to KGB your way around it?


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    #153
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Squatter wrote: »
    No they're not. Their pointless stunt will achieve absolutely nothing for the homeless, but they will gain valuable street cred from their mates and some of them may well end up in good jobs in the poverty industry sector.

    Maybe if we all stood with the protesters? Joined them? Forced the government with the numerous landlords amongst them to do something about the horrible situation people find themselves in.


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    #154
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    The truth about those who are anti the protesters is emerging. They despise them because they are highlighting an issue that goes against their profit making schemes. It seems like we have a number of landlords posting on this thread!

    Thank heavens that we have towering intellectuals like you to redress the landlord-squatter (not Squatter!) imbalance on this thread!

    I feel very proud to have added you to my ignore list!


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    #155
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Who I am is none of your business and I've as much right to post here as you do.



    why would you suggest that.


    so are you going to post some information from a credible source or continue to KGB your way around it?

    Don't go near that rabbit hole, poster!

    Here be dragons!


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    #156
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Squatter wrote: »
    Thank heavens that we have towering intellectuals like you to redress the landlord-squatter imbalance on this thread!

    I feel very proud to have added you to my ignore list!

    Welcome aboard! We meet Thursdays, bring cake!!!


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    #157
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    I didn't mean to imply you said it personally, it's in the statement from the peoples front of summerhill.... summer hill peoples front.... the occupiers.

    Did you say that you avoid facebook?


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    #158
    sbsquarepants
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    I didn't say anyone was greedy, I don't think owning a second home is inherently greedy at all.

    If the mortage etc. is being paid by the rent, as implied by the posters words, then the asset is being acquired in the owners favour. End off.

    True (eventually), but sometimes not through choice, hence "stuck".


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    #159
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    They are doing something to help the homeless and those in desperate need of support.

    I heard one this morning on Newstalk. Crying about having to live in a hostel and having to pay €100 per week. Complaining that she doesn't get anything to eat for paying that €100.

    Then she carried on and it emerges that 5 years ago she was thrown out of her house for anti social behaviour. She wanted a second chance.

    I've no problem with people protesting, and on this issue I'm normally sympathetic to the cause, however, if they are going to protest, at least make sure that their spokespersons are genuinely homeless through no fault of their own.


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    #160
    sbsquarepants
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    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Did you say that you avoid facebook?

    Yes.


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    #161
    Berserker
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    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    They are doing something to help the homeless and those in desperate need of support.

    Absolutely not. Occupying a house is not going to do anything to help those people.
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Properties that are vacant for a prolonged period should have a levy applied to them that forces the owners to either occupy them, sell them or have them removed from their ownership at below the market value.

    My brother owns an apartment in Dublin city centre. He works in the USA and he comes back to Ireland twice a year. He tried to rent out the apartment a few years back but the tenants decided that paying rent was not for them and they also decided to re-decorate the place on leaving. Are you seriously telling me that he should be forced to open up that property and be subject to that treatment again?


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    #162
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Maybe if we all stood with the protesters? Joined them? Forced the government with the numerous landlords amongst them to do something about the horrible situation people find themselves in.

    I'd like to protest for the development of workhouses as a solution to the poor souls that are homeless


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    #163
    jobbridge4life
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    My father's house is "vacant".

    Damn him for having such a great deal of suffering with an illness and having to spend time in a nursing home.

    Clearly according to some posters he should give up his house to some workshy layabout.

    Yeah good luck getting them out later.

    Have you been paying attention to the housing crisis? Seriously? Because the idea that it is only those out of or afraid of work who are in peril is delusion.


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    #164
    Bredabe
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    I hear one of the protesters saying 'she deserved a 2nd chance, everyone deserves a home', not a word about those of us who never got a chance to be on the housing ladder once let alone twice.

    "Have you ever wagged your tail so hard you fell over"?-Brod Higgins.



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    #165
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Who I am is none of your business and I've as much right to post here as you do.



    why would you suggest that.


    so are you going to post some information from a credible source or continue to KGB your way around it?

    I was responding to a poster about reading all the information available and then you responded under a different name asking to provide you with different links. You're not supposed to have 2 accounts posting.


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    #166
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Squatter wrote: »
    Thank heavens that we have towering intellectuals like you to redress the landlord-squatter (not Squatter!) imbalance on this thread!

    I feel very proud to have added you to my ignore list!

    Post reported.


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    #167
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Have you been paying attention to the housing crisis? Seriously? Because the idea that it is only those out of or afraid of work who are in peril is delusion.

    I rent, if I miss a payment I could be kicked out.

    I dont miss because I was brought up responsibly.

    I'm talking - as you well know - about the crowd who want to live for free and these are the scumbags who the "protestors" are facilitating.


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    #168
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I was responding to a poster about reading all the information available and then you responded under a different name asking to provide you with different links. You're not supposed to have 2 accounts posting.

    are you making that accusation?


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    #169
    sbsquarepants
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I heard one this morning on Newstalk. Crying about having to live in a hostel and having to pay €100 per week. Complaining that she doesn't get anything to eat for paying that €100.

    .

    Jaysus, God love her. I pay around 4 times that and I don't get anything to eat for it either. I did one time get tickets to the ideal homes show though, so I suppose it's swings and roundabouts, couldn't go unfortunately, can't remember why, probably had to work or something.

    The irony:D


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    #170
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I heard one this morning on Newstalk. Crying about having to live in a hostel and having to pay €100 per week. Complaining that she doesn't get anything to eat for paying that €100.

    Then she carried on and it emerges that 5 years ago she was thrown out of her house for anti social behaviour. She wanted a second chance.

    I've no problem with people protesting, and on this issue I'm normally sympathetic to the cause, however, if they are going to protest, at least make sure that their spokespersons are genuinely homeless through no fault of their own.

    We shouldn't punish those in genuine need of support because we dislike some spokesperson.


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    #171
    Berserker
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    Bredabe wrote: »
    I hear one of the protesters saying 'she deserved a 2nd chance, everyone deserves a home', not a word about those of us who never got a chance to be on the housing ladder once let alone twice.

    Heard another one talking about "rich" people who earn €50K per annum. Good luck trying to buy a home on €50K in Dublin or any of the surrounding counties.


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    #172
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Yes.

    So you haven't read all their statements.


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    #173
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Berserker wrote: »
    Absolutely not. Occupying a house is not going to do anything to help those people.



    My brother owns an apartment in Dublin city centre. He works in the USA and he comes back to Ireland twice a year. He tried to rent out the apartment a few years back but the tenants decided that paying rent was not for them and they also decided to re-decorate the place on leaving. Are you seriously telling me that he should be forced to open up that property and be subject to that treatment again?

    It's highlighting the issue and the landlords behaviour. Job done.


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    #174
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Jaysus, God love her. I pay around 4 times that and I don't get anything to eat for it either. I did one time get tickets to the ideal homes show though, so I suppose it's swings and roundabouts, couldn't go unfortunately, can't remember why, probably had to work or something.

    The irony:D

    100 quid a week!

    For three times that I receive the grand total of ....... a roof over my head!

    Everything else on top of that!

    Jaysus even the badly educated AAA shills can see that is not on!!!!


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    #175
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Uriel. wrote: »
    I'd like to protest for the development of workhouses as a solution to the poor souls that are homeless

    As said earlier, the real motives of those protesting against the protesters eventually emerge.


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    #176
    mahamageehad
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Properties that are vacant for a prolonged period should have a levy applied to them that forces the owners to either occupy them, sell them or have them removed from their ownership at below the market value. It's a disgrace that last year it was reported that in Dublin city alone there were 31,000 vacant housing united, with over 6,000 being vacant for over 5 years, and nothing has been done about it.
    This house in question has been vacant 2 months though. But yes, levies on houses vacant over 2 years or whatever time frame is a good idea. Pity this stunt will do absolutely nothing towards accomplishing that or anything that will help.


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    #177
    PlaneSpeeking
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    Berserker wrote: »
    Heard another one talking about "rich" people who earn €50K per annum. Good luck trying to buy a home on €50K in Dublin or any of the surrounding counties.

    I don't earn 50k, but I'm in the higher tax bracket (after 30 years' solid graft). Apparently I'm "the 1%" and one one occasion "Tory landowning scum".

    No brains these people, none at all.


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    #178
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    We shouldn't punish those in genuine need of support because we dislike some spokesperson.

    I actually said that. I just qualified it first by stating get genuine spokepersons, not anti social tenants who were previously evicted.

    No different in my opinion to the 'scum landlords' they're fighting against.


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    #179
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Bredabe wrote: »
    I hear one of the protesters saying 'she deserved a 2nd chance, everyone deserves a home', not a word about those of us who never got a chance to be on the housing ladder once let alone twice.

    So how about you join with them? Let's make this for all people in difficult situations. What will fighting against them achieve?


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    #180
    Gatling
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    So who's signed up to adopt a homeless person for Christmas ,
    The last two adopt a homeless or immigrant didn't go so well .

    No boardsie adopted a single homeless person or immigrant .
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    #181
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    As said earlier, the real motives of those protesting against the protesters eventually emerge.

    but what about those who protest against the protesters protesting about the protesters?

    Don't we now know that those people are affiliated to or have close links with communist backed influence groups?


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