Protesters occupy privately owned house to raise awarness?

sexmag

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-groups-occupying-vacant-dublin-building-say-theyre-overwhelmed-by-public-support-37195456.html

I'm sorry but how is breaking into a privately owned house raising awareness?

This is a criminal act and should be treated as such

TheValeyard

I believe that's called breaking and entering.

Trigger Happy

Is it a bit like me robbing your car to protest at people getting knocked over?

PlaneSpeeking

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-groups-occupying-vacant-dublin-building-say-theyre-overwhelmed-by-public-support-37195456.html

I'm sorry but how is breaking into a privately owned house raising awareness?

This is a criminal act and should be treated as such

In the good old days we called that B&E and trespass.

Tenner says not one of the "activists" has seen a payslip. Ever.

Wasters.

PlaneSpeeking

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Is it a bit like me robbing your car to protest at people getting knocked over?

Or in their tiny minds, robbing a car because everyone doesn't have a free State funded Beemer.

Ten of Swords

I am now aware of that house

Mission accomplished




Seriously it doesn't matter if that house is owned by a person or a corporation it's still private property that they are trespassing on

dav3

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/housing-groups-occupying-vacant-dublin-building-say-theyre-overwhelmed-by-public-support-37195456.html

I'm sorry but how is breaking into a privately owned house raising awareness?

Well they've got their issue published in one of the most popular newspapers in the country, and they have you creating a thread about it on boards.ie. Job done I'd say.

“We want to raise awareness that local authorities have the power to CPO buildings from private landlords, and we want to expose the problem of vacant houses and slums being left with nobody in them while there is a massive problem with homelessness,” the spokeswoman said.

DONTMATTER

Fair play to them. Raising awareness to the absolute state of the housing situation in Dublin and elsewhere has to be commended. Something has to be done.

sexmag

The situation is they've broken into someone's house and are squatting.

Try and disguise it with a vale of raising awareness all you like that but that's the jist, who is this landlord,what have they done to them that's gives them a right to break into their property?

How would they feel if every homeless person just took a leaf out of their book and broke into a random house to prove a point? It would be anarchy

PlaneSpeeking

sexmag wrote: »

The situation is you've broken into someone's house and are squatting.

Try and disguise it with a vale of raising awareness all you like that but that's the jist, who is this landlord,what have they done to you that's gives you a right to break into their property?

Rights to them are something they demand - not what other people have.

Scumbag layabout squatters is all they are. Activists my hoop.

DONTMATTER

sexmag wrote: »

The situation is they've broken into someone's house and are squatting.

Try and disguise it with a vale of raising awareness all you like that but that's the jist, who is this landlord,what have they done to them that's gives them a right to break into their property?

It seems like it takes extreme actions to raise awareness, let's hope they get noticed. The house is fine, no one was living in it.

sexmag

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The house is fine, no one was living in it.

Irrelevant, you don't get to decide who's house you can and can't break into to prove a point.

Someone owns it,it's there's, I'll just go break into this car because no one was in it

Canis Lupus

Overwhelmed by the generosity and support received. I wonder if they had their homes broken into would they be so supportive.

The Backwards Man

You're giving them the attention they're looking for. And they're the eejits?

The house and others in the area were evacuated on orders from the fire brigade due to safety issues. Do they not realise that putting more tenants in without major renovation is not only illegal but madness in the extreme? The house has only been vacant for just over 2 months. Do they think that the owners could get crews onsite, planning issues sorted, structural and engineers reports done in that timeframe? Not to mention the vast amount of money raised? What planet are they living on?
Oh, I forgot. Schools out for the summer.

Boom_Bap

I've heard that the owners of the property, own other properties in the area/street and have their eyes on purchasing more properties.
Their goal is to essentially let the area go to ruin to drive down the property prices so that they can buy for peanuts.


This is an attempt to stop using property for leverage and to get DCC to attain the properties for badly needed housing.

DONTMATTER

sexmag wrote: »

Irrelevant, you don't get to decide who's house you can and can't break into to prove a point

Like I said in the part of my post that you cut. It takes extreme actions to raise awareness. And they're doing it because many people are living in extreme conditions. Living on the streets or in temporary accommodation.

PlaneSpeeking

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I've heard that the owners of the property, own other properties in the area/street and have their eyes on purchasing more properties.
Their goal is to essentially let the area go to ruin to drive down the property prices so that they can buy for peanuts.


This is an attempt to stop using property for leverage and to get DCC to attain the properties for badly needed housing.

Possibly the most dangerous words ever in a case like this.

sexmag

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Like I said in the part of my post that you cut. It takes extreme actions to raise awareness. And they're doing it because many people are living in extreme conditions. Living on the streets or in temporary accommodation.

Then go break into the house of someone who can make a difference like a td or the housing minister

JohnnyFlash

Shower of smelly crusties.

Wonder if Hansard will call round.

DONTMATTER

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I've heard that the owners of the property, own other properties in the area/street and have their eyes on purchasing more properties.
Their goal is to essentially let the area go to ruin to drive down the property prices so that they can buy for peanuts.


This is an attempt to stop using property for leverage and to get DCC to attain the properties for badly needed housing.

This adds more detail to things. We shouldn't be worried about the owner of this house. They are not worrying about people struggling on the streets, a greedy landlord who wants to make profit off the back of others suffering.

Creative83

Hopefully the Gardai rock up in their riot gear and give a good old fashioned hippy hiding

dilallio

The landlord should show up with a load of paint and brushes, and pretend he or she is a sympathetic supporter of their protest.
And get them to paint the house for free!

DONTMATTER

sexmag wrote: »

Then go break into the house of someone who can make a difference like a td or the housing minister

There's no one in the house and as we've just heard, the owner of the house could make a difference but is adding to the misery of locals.

super_furry

Who isn’t aware that there’s a renting crisis anyway?

DONTMATTER

We should support those who are trying to help people. There are many in terrible situations and these protesters are going out of their way to help them in anyway they can. This should be supported, they're clearly decent people.

lawred2

DONTMATTER wrote: »

It seems like it takes extreme actions to raise awareness, let's hope they get noticed. The house is fine, no one was living in it.

awareness of what?

who is not 'aware' that there is a shortage of free gaffs for people in Ireland?

sexmag

DONTMATTER wrote: »

as we've just heard

Exactly, what you've HEARD from some randomner on the net.

You haven't a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

For all you know could be a family who are waiting for planning permission to do it up so they came move in and now there's loads of people squatting for however long

DONTMATTER

lawred2 wrote: »

awareness of what?

who is not 'aware' that there is a shortage of free gaffs for people in Ireland?

Somebody obviously because nothing has been done about it. Plus, we got extra detail on the landlord in question here. Raising awareness of his behaviour can only be a good thing.

whisky_galore

super_furry wrote: »

Who isn’t aware that there’s a renting crisis anyway?

Govt is doing fcuk all about it, apart from nipping around the edges of the problem.

Renters don't really matter in the scheme of things.

Boom_Bap

Summerhill Occupation on Facebook has plenty of background on the reasoning for doing this.

DONTMATTER

sexmag wrote: »

Exactly, what you've HEARD from some randomner on the net.

You haven't a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

For all you know could be a family who are waiting for planning permission to do it up so they came move in and now there's loads of people squatting for however long

Or it could be worse, these might be tax dodging and up to nefarious activities. Now that this group have highlighted and brought exposure to this landlord, he should be investigated and we'll find out what he's been up to.

sbsquarepants

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

In the good old days we called that B&E and trespass.

Tenner says not one of the "activists" has seen a payslip. Ever.

Wasters.

Activist just seems to be a synonym of layabout these days.

The answer to every problem is another fúcking handout, it's never getting their crusty holes out to work a bit earlier in the morning, or staying there a bit later in the evening.

I honestly can't stand these sort of cúnts.

PlaneSpeeking

sexmag wrote: »

Exactly, what you've HEARD from some randomner on the net.

You haven't a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

For all you know could be a family who are waiting for planning permission to do it up so they came move in and now there's loads of people squatting for however long

And that randomer "heard" it somewhere too.

Jesus there are some gullible folk around these parts.

What bit of "it's someone else's proprerty" do these idiots not get ?

PlaneSpeeking

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Summerhill Occupation on Facebook has plenty of background on the reasoning for doing this.

Oh well, if it's on Facebook......!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

sbsquarepants

DONTMATTER wrote: »

. There are many in terrible situations and these protesters are going out of their way to help them in anyway they can..

Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?

DONTMATTER wrote: »

. This should be supported, they're clearly decent people.

We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

sexmag

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Oh well, if it's on Facebook......!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

"STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

What:
35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

Our immediate demand:
Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such.

Also "We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership" bit gets me the best, so if someone has a holiday home they use once a year should that be put up too?? Gangsters

recyclops

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Summerhill Occupation on Facebook has plenty of background on the reasoning for doing this.

probably just doing it so they can protest croke park concerts as well

PlaneSpeeking

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

Have that poster's current incarnation on ignore but saw it through your reply.

Amazing how you can "clearly see" the trespassers are "decent people" in the same way as it can be "clearly seen" the landlord is some kind of robber baron who is fiddling his taxes!

Mental!!

Wheeliebin30

Champagne socialist no doubt, probably college going rich kids trying to alleviate their guilt ala Paul Murphy and Boyd Barrett.

lawred2

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Somebody obviously because nothing has been done about it. Plus, we got extra detail on the landlord in question here. Raising awareness of his behaviour can only be a good thing.

what would you like done?

PlaneSpeeking

sexmag wrote: »

"STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

What:
35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

Our immediate demand:
Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such

God they are thicker and worse than I thought!!!!

Mrcaramelchoc

Its been done and didn't work.arrest their asses and throw them out.

Wheeliebin30

lawred2 wrote: »

what would you like done?

A massive social housing build of course!!!

All paid for by the tax payer and people already paying a mortgage.

These morons want you to double pay your mortgage so someone else can live in a house for next to nothing.

sbsquarepants

DONTMATTER wrote: »

, a greedy landlord who wants to make profit off the back of others suffering.

By not letting out a house on which he could get considerable rental income, rents are at an all time high are they not?

You're going to have to explain this evil master plan to me, I must to be missing a step or two!

DONTMATTER

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

Like was said, highlight awareness, show that these people haven't been forgotten about, pressurise those who can do something about this. It's a good thing, they're not just sitting around, they're going and doing something about it.

Dr Turk Turkelton

What's going to happen next Tuesday when these wasters have to leave the house to collect their dole and leave the house unoccupied?

DavidLyons_

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Explain how exactly this will help anyone please?



We'll just have to agree to differ for the time being!

Have that poster's current incarnation on ignore but saw it through your reply.

Amazing how you can "clearly see" the trespassers are "decent people" in the same way as it can be "clearly seen" the landlord is some kind of robber baron who is fiddling his taxes!

Mental!!

An utterly bitter and twisted loon who effectively exists on here to try (and ultimately fail) to wind other posters up. Someone whom you're absolutely right to have on ignore.

These "activists" are just a shower of wasters committing a crime.

DONTMATTER

sexmag wrote: »

"STATEMENT FROM SUMMERHILL OCCUPATION:

What:
35 Summerhill Parade is a property owned by Pat and PJ O'Donnell (owners of POD, and sponsors of the Clare GAA team). This house is part of a cluster of properties on Summerhill Parade owned by the O'Donnell family. All properties had similar issues with overcrowding, poor conditions and dodgy cash in-hand dealings. A total of 120 tenants lived between the five properties, each paying between €350-€450 for a bed in a room of 6-8 people. In May, a mass eviction occurred between the five properties resulting in these 120 tenants being illegally evicted over the duration of a week.

The O'Donnell's bought Aldborough House, a derelict Georgian mansion, in 2016 and have recently got approval to develop this site into office spaces. No consideration was given for the local community and their needs in these plans. There have been push from the owners to create slum conditions in the area as a means to run housing prices down and buy up bargain properties to redevelop - after all, the workers in the O'Donnell's new, plush office spaces are going to need equally plush places to live. It's a fine example of gentrification in action.

Since the evictions in May, these properties have sat empty while the housing crisis worsens.

Housing and community activists today have occupied the property of Summerhill Parade because enough is enough, Pat O'Donnell should not be allowed sit on these potential homes.

Rent hikes, evictions, poor housing conditions; people stuck in overcrowded homes, living in bunkbeds, or packed into their relative's homes; people couch-surfing, sleeping rough, living in hostels, hotels and direct provision - we hear about these horrendous situations every day now, we all know somebody who is affected. And yet, those in power sit on their hands. There is no political will to make real, meaningful change to our housing crisis.

Our immediate demand:
Is that the houses owned by Pat O’Donnell on Summerhill Parade be compulsory purchased by Dublin City Council and given to the local community. We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership.

All vacant land and properties should be put under public ownership for.

We call for people to take action and get involved in the housing movement, a wider demand of homes for all. Those interested in setting up similar occupations, please get in touch with the page.

The housing crisis is not a natural disaster; we do not need to accept that this is simply the way it is. But things won’t get better on their own - action is needed, by people and for people."




In my book this is called blackmail, trying to force someone to sell their property. These guys sound like gangsters running a protection racket and telling people to set up their own is inciting criminal activity and should be punished as such.

Also "We want to highlight that private, vacant properties can, and should be put into public ownership" bit gets me the best, so if someone has a holiday home they use once a year should that be put up too?? Gangsters

It's strange the way different people can look at things and come to a completely different conclusion. To me it looks like the O'Donnells are the gangsters!

DONTMATTER

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Champagne socialist no doubt, probably college going rich kids trying to alleviate their guilt ala Paul Murphy and Boyd Barrett.

I thought they never worked before?

P_1

From what I understand of the situation the owner is turning Summerhill into a slum in a bid to lower property values. He owns significant land and wishes to build yet more glass and concrete monstrosity offices on it.

The people of Dublin are being priced out of their city and some are saying that enough is enough.