The Liam Miller memorial match and Rule 42

Once an organisation get public money and grant money to build /improve facilities those facilities should be for the public to use and not to line the pockets of said organisation.
Was there not an EU ruling on this matter?

There is a certain cohort of "soccer people" in this country that are in constant jealousy of the GAA and when things like this come up they shout as loud as they can.

I certainly think that, in the future, the GAA can amend it's rules to allow certain circumstance like this, just like it did for the RWC and for Croke Park.

I don't think the GAA have done anything wrong here, they have a rule and it's a rule that cannot be changed on the fly.
But as I said there are always people who will attack the GAA and as the OP said always politicians and the like who will bring this up and act surprised when the GAA say no.

And this notion that just because the GAA get public funding then their grounds should be open in very very over simplified.

The GAA give far more back to society than they take out.
Go to another country and you will find swathes and swathes of "playing fields" and public facilities, and payed for by taxpayers and maintained by local councils.

You don't have that in Ireland, what you do have are thousands of GAA facalities, payed for in part by the tax payers, but largely by the club members and maintained by the hard work and dedication of local club members.

They save the tax payer millions every year when it comes to the provision of facilities.

And other sports bodies get funding too remember.

Because this is very much a Cork soccer event on a Tuesday afternoon in September I think the right play for it is Turners Cross, it will be a far more "authentic" way to celebrate the mans life.

And you can be damn sure many Cork GAA fans will be there and many many more will contribute towrads the fund.

harr wrote: »

Once an organisation get public money and grant money to build /improve facilities those facilities should be for the public to use and not to line the pockets of said organisation.
Was there not an EU ruling on this matter?

That money is recouped quickly enough.
It provides a venue for concerts which fill the hotel , pubs and restaurants. Jobs created, taxes paid and money pumped into the local community.

Bonniedog wrote: »

I agree with Tod.

We have all sorts of characters jumping on the band wagon to try to browbeat the GAA on this.

Were they even asked by the organisers before they began to talk up the use of PUC?

I have to confess I never heard of the chap Miller so no idea of how popular he is, but given that Cork City's average attendance is around 4,000, it is surely huge leap of imagination to assume they might even half fill PUC.

As Tod said there are a lot of soccer people here who hate the GAA. FAI demonstrated this when allowed use Croke Park, by changing the name of Hill 16 to "North Terrace" on their tickets. Anyone who thinks that was other than childish reflection of their hatred and jealousy of the GAA is na.

He played in the premier league and for Ireland, he was a bit of a journey man, had a stint with Man Utd but never really made it there, not unlike many of the current Ireland team.

But he was from Cork, and like all things Cork he was a big deal for Cork people.

And that's why I also think moving it out of Turner's Cross would take away from the event. It's a Cork City FC/Cork soccer event.
They should celebrate him on their own patch.

Deleted User wrote: »

While it may be too late for Liam Miller's family, hopefully the outcry will see the matter back on the agenda and the appropriate Motion will be brought and vote cast to prevent this happening again.

What makes you think it would pass? For many in charge of the GAA and people here it seems too, things are very much working as intended right now.

Wasn’t there American football in croker a while back? It’s ridiculous to be fair but the GAA are stuck in the Stone Age on certain things.

C__MC wrote: »

They want to play it in his own county- where he was from be silly to drag it to Dublin

No-one is asking them to. They can have it in Cork city ground. He didn't play for Cork GAA.

The arrangements for the soccer and rugby internationals in CP was a one off. We can't have situation where GAA is being pressurised to host other sports at the drop of a hat. Especially by people who have no time for us.

Unlike the FAI, the GAA is a democratic organisation that requires the consent of its members, not the whim of some unaccountable oligarch. You would imagine that former President Kelly might be aware of this,

Look on the face of it, I personally have no problem with the game in PUC, but as usual the 'issue' is being used to bash the GAA for having the vision to build stadia around the country.

The 'tax payers money' argument is interesting. There is tax payers money invested in ballyliffan golf course, can I organise a charity rugby game there? There was tax payers money given to St Vincent's hospital for example, can I just demand to use some of their facilities when I want? No, no I can't.

As an aside, I assume all of the participants in this charity event are doing so free gratis, for nothing, and without huge 'expenses'. I've seen some of the costs involved with these 'charity' soccer events in the UK in the last and they would make your eyes water, with appearance money/expenses etc (Eric Cantona springs to mind). I certainly hope all of the money raised wherever it is held goes to the Miller family trust.

So if the gaa don't back down, it has to be played in a 7000 seater stadium in cork.... Why not the Aviva??

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Padraig Harrington played football in Croke Park, should they play a pitch and putt tournament there ?

Miller's game was soccer and that was his career and that's what he played at the highest level, that's what he represented Ireland at.

Not GAA.

It's a charity event ffs. A lot of the money is going to a hospice who comfort people through their last agonising days of succumbing to cancer. Many of them will be lifelong gaa members but don't let that get in the way of sticking by "The rules" which this year have been shown can be bent to suit any particular situation.

dixiefly wrote: »

Is this the Alan Milton you are referring to?

Experienced Head Of Media Relations with a demonstrated history of working in the sports industry. Skilled in Crisis Communications, Event Management, Editing, Journalism, and Public Speaking. Strong media and communication professional with a Master of Arts (MA) focused in Journalism from DCU.

Skilled in crisis communications....yeah right!

As a by the way, I remember being at an American Football game in Navan in 2012. How did that game get played with this rule in place?

Yes, he's an abrasive dipstick. Totally unsuited to PR. Can't remember the last time the GAA had good PR.

Bambi wrote: »

This is a bit like your alcoholic deadbeat relative demanding that his family move into your house because they were put out in the street for him gargling away the rent. Apparently the fact that he doesn't have his **** together is your fault.

This isn't an FAI event. It's a charity event that happens to be a football game

Bonniedog wrote: »

You can be certain a lot of people will be wetting their beaks as usual.

Read some of Dunphy's old articles about the FAI and such events. Neither their "culture" nor nepotism has changed.

Barge pole - other end of

I'm sure they will and I've no time for anyone involved with the running of the FAI. If they try hijack this they should be harshly told where to go