Internet Addiction?

Black Swan · 03-07-2018 2:32pm

Why Is There a ‘Gaming Disorder’ But No ‘Smartphone Disorder?’

Fathom · 04-07-2018 1:36am

Technology addiction.

mzungu · 05-07-2018 10:48am

Black Swan wrote: »

Why Is There a ‘Gaming Disorder’ But No ‘Smartphone Disorder?’

Next on the way, perhaps?

Black Swan · 05-07-2018 2:06pm

Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!

Fathom · 06-07-2018 3:56am

Black Swan wrote: »

Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!

Funniest Vids has several text stumbles.

mzungu · 08-07-2018 11:41am

Black Swan wrote: »

Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!

A ban on adults using smartphones is next on the list!

Black Swan · 09-07-2018 4:51am

mzungu wrote: »

A ban on adults using smartphones is next on the list!

Smartphones use while driving, although outlawed, is one of the leading causes of traffic accidents across the pond.

Fathom · 10-07-2018 9:27pm

Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.

Black Swan · 10-07-2018 10:48pm

Fathom wrote: »

Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.

As noted elsewhere, recommend skipping introduction, as well as chapters occurring before those that address "Thinking," techo-society, scientific method, and operationalisation. Especially read pre-scientific Galileo historical influences, and Edmund Husserl's critique of how applied science and technology has formed the boundaries of existence, suggesting such addictions would be normal and not dysfunctional in today's positivist technological society.

Fathom · 11-07-2018 12:05am

Beginning with "Thought" chapters.

Black Swan · 12-07-2018 10:31am

Huang Xiuqin,, et al., Mental Health, Personality, and Parental Rearing Styles of Adolescents with Internet Addiction Disorder, Cyberpsychology, Behavior, and Social NetworkingVol. 13, No. 4, 16 Aug 2010.

Adolescents with IAD consistently rated parental rearing behaviors as being over-intrusive, punitive, and lacking in responsiveness.

mzungu · 13-07-2018 8:45pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Huang Xiuqin,, et al., Mental Health, Personality, and Parental Rearing Styles of Adolescents with Internet Addiction Disorder, Cyberpsychology, Behavior, and Social NetworkingVol. 13, No. 4, 16 Aug 2010.

Hong et al. (2014) found that self-inferiority can significantly predict Facebook usage; and having a depressive character and Facebook usage can significantly predict Facebook addiction.

Hong, F. Y., Huang, D. H., Lin, H. Y., & Chiu, S. L. (2014). Analysis of the psychological traits, Facebook usage, and Facebook addiction model of Taiwanese university students. Telematics and Informatics, 31(4), 597-606.

Black Swan · 14-07-2018 2:14pm

Facebook Addiction yet another variation of the larger Internet addiction? Slicing the pie?

Fathom · 14-07-2018 4:04pm

Menu at Cafe Internet Addiction.

Black Swan · 15-07-2018 4:08pm

Mobile phone texting-while-driving addiction. Across the pond, the National Safety Council reports that mobile phone use while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year.

Fathom · 15-07-2018 9:14pm

Mark Griffiths reported little rigorous empirical evidence that suggested Internet use was addictive. Studies often used anecdotal evidence. Case studies. Method cannot be generalized to population. Source: Mark Griffiths, Does Internet and Computer "Addiction" Exist? Some Case Study Evidence, CyberPsychology & BehaviorVol. 3, No. 2, Published Online:5 Jul 2004.

Fathom · 15-07-2018 9:26pm

Outdated DSM-4 criteria for substance use disorders or pathological gambling were adopted in DSM-5. Assessment criteria specific to Internet gaming is needed in terms of content, context, time, etc., with some proposed in DSM-5 making little sense. Source: Daniel Kardefelt-Winther, A critical account of DSM-5 criteria for internet gaming disorder, Addiction Research & Theory, Volume 23, 2015 - Issue 2 Published Online: 03 Jul 2014.

Black Swan · 16-07-2018 3:16am

A little contrary evidence to balance out this discussion?

Fathom · 16-07-2018 6:08pm

Black Swan wrote: »

A little contrary evidence to balance out this discussion?

Reading Karl Popper and Hegel.

mzungu · 16-07-2018 6:31pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Facebook Addiction yet another variation of the larger Internet addiction? Slicing the pie?

That would be my take on it anyway. Although this is probably one area where you might see a lot more specialise in. In say 20 years, it may be as commonplace as say an addiction counsellor for gambling is today.

mzungu · 16-07-2018 6:32pm

Fathom wrote: »

Mark Griffiths reported little rigorous empirical evidence that suggested Internet use was addictive. Studies often used anecdotal evidence. Case studies. Method cannot be generalized to population.

Source:
Mark Griffiths, Does Internet and Computer "Addiction" Exist? Some Case Study Evidence, CyberPsychology & BehaviorVol. 3, No. 2, Published Online:5 Jul 2004.

Fathom wrote: »

Outdated DSM-4 criteria for substance use disorders or pathological gambling were adopted in DSM-5. Assessment criteria specific to Internet gaming is needed in terms of content, context, time, etc., with some proposed in DSM-5 making little sense.

Source:
Daniel Kardefelt-Winther, A critical account of DSM-5 criteria for internet gaming disorder, Addiction Research & Theory, Volume 23, 2015 - Issue 2
Published Online: 03 Jul 2014.

Question is, did internet use bring on the addiction, or was there an addictive personality there prior?

Black Swan · 17-07-2018 3:01am

mzungu wrote: »

Question is, did internet use bring on the addiction, or was there an addictive personality there prior?

Or is there the myth of Internet addiction akin to the suggestions of Thomas S. Szasz?

mzungu · 19-07-2018 12:02pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Or is there the myth of Internet addiction akin to the suggestions of Thomas S. Szasz?

Interesting. I am not sure I would go down the path of it being a myth, but it is possible that there is an underlying cause that should be treated, and internet addiction could be a manifestation of that.

Fathom · 19-07-2018 7:28pm

mzungu wrote: »

Interesting. I am not sure I would go down the path of it being a myth,

Reading Karl Popper. Leaving door open to falsifiability?

mzungu · 19-07-2018 9:08pm

Fathom wrote: »

Reading Karl Popper. Leaving door open to falsifiability?

Very interesting Fathom. If I am getting you right (and please correct me if not), studies into internet addiction do not contain any framework for anything other than finding conclusions based around the framework outlined in the study? Hence, this does not contain any framework for falsifiability surrounding internet addiction itself, and therefore does not pass Popper's test?

Fathom · 19-07-2018 9:34pm

Karl Popper's theory of demarcation. Almost any theory can obtain favorable evidence, including those that pertain to Internet addiction. Falsifiability is an approach that should be framed in scientific methods. Proceeds by attempts to refute or falsify theories, models, and explanations. Counter instances are important in that they challenge prevailing notions, and in our case, questioning if Internet addiction is myth. Uncertain if that answers your question. Only my 2-cents.

mzungu · 20-07-2018 8:12pm

Fathom wrote: »

Karl Popper's theory of demarcation. Almost any theory can obtain favorable evidence, including those that pertain to Internet addiction. Falsifiability is an approach that should be framed in scientific methods. Proceeds by attempts to refute or falsify theories, models, and explanations. Counter instances are important in that they challenge prevailing notions, and in our case, questioning if Internet addiction is myth.

Uncertain if that answers your question. Only my 2-cents.

Yes, that answers it perfectly. Thank you

Fathom · 22-07-2018 12:24am

mzungu wrote: »

Yes, that answers it perfectly. Thank you

Still reading Popper. I could misinterpret his signature per Jacques Derrida.

mzungu · 25-07-2018 5:25pm

Fathom wrote: »

Still reading Popper. I could misinterpret his signature per Jacques Derrida.

Popper would have a good bit more to say than Derrida!

Fathom · 25-07-2018 10:39pm

mzungu wrote: »

Popper would have a good bit more to say than Derrida!

My read. Big orientation difference. Popper theory. Derrida method.

Black Swan · 26-07-2018 2:39am

Don't imagine Popper anticipated the Internet, although his theory still applies to the research method quite well. Jacques Derrida died in 2004, so he was Internet experienced, but I have not found where he addressed such things as Internet addiction.

Fathom · 27-07-2018 10:52pm

Jacques Derrida held a joint appointment at our university up until his 2004 death. We have all his works in our library. Can't recall reading about any deconstruction of the Internet or associated addiction. He's a hard read, and I have not read all his works. Could of missed it.

mzungu · 27-07-2018 11:28pm

Fathom wrote: »

Jacques Derrida held a joint appointment at our university up until his 2004 death. We have all his works in our library. Can't recall reading about any deconstruction of the Internet or associated addiction. He's a hard read, and I have not read all his works. Could of missed it.

Indeed, navel gazing for the sake of navel gazing. Don't get me wrong, I would not discount all of what he says, and he does have interesting ideas to offer, but I think Popper probably offered us a more "useful" philosophy....certainly for the purposes of this thread.

In short, internet addiction may very well be quietly taken out the list of disorders in years to come. The evidence for its existence would not pass Popper's test.

Black Swan · 28-07-2018 12:06am

mzungu wrote: »

In short, internet addiction may very well be quietly taken out the list of disorders in years to come. The evidence for its existence would not pass Popper's test.

Interesting observations mzungu. Please clarify and expand.

Black Swan · 28-07-2018 12:32am

Fathom wrote: »

He's a hard read

Indeed.

mzungu wrote: »

Indeed, navel gazing for the sake of navel gazing. Don't get me wrong, I would not discount all of what he says, and he does have interesting ideas to offer,

Postmodern philosophy has not been well received, especially in America, and Jacques Derrida was probably the best known in this domain. His challenge of dichotomies alone threatened classical and modern philosophies that relied upon determining truth vs falsehood.

mzungu wrote: »

but I think Popper probably offered us a more "useful" philosophy....

Popper's theoretical contributions were without doubt significant to today's scientific method.

mzungu wrote: »

certainly for the purposes of this thread.

I wonder? Could someone deconstruct the theories applied, or empirical research cited, or diagnoses used (to define, measure, explain, predict, or treat Internet addiction)?

Fathom wrote: »

Popper theory. Derrida method.

Precisely. Methinks Derrida was not a philosopher, not having a formally constructed philosophy. Rather, I see him as a philosophical methodologist, with deconstruction his approach.

Fathom · 28-07-2018 3:18am

Black Swan wrote: »

Could someone deconstruct the theories applied, or empirical research cited, or diagnoses used (to define, measure, explain, predict, or treat Internet addiction)?

Master's thesis?

Fathom · 28-07-2018 3:27am

Kathryn L.Mills, Effects of Internet use on the adolescent brain: despite popular claims, experimental evidence remains scarce, Trends in Cognitive Sciences Volume 18, Issue 8, August 2014, Pages 385-387. Highlights: "There is currently no evidence that typical Internet use harms the adolescent brain." Internet addiction and deconstructing Internet use:

What is not present in the current literature are studies that correlate brain measurements – along with behavior, cognition, and well-being – with engagement in different Internet activities. This might not initially seem like a feasible method of experimentation, given the ever-increasing presence of the Internet in our lives. However, we can begin to address this question by utilizing methods adopted in studies on the effects of other environmental influences (e.g., musical training) and by deconstructing Internet use into measurable components.

Black Swan · 28-07-2018 10:41pm

Internet addiction and deconstructing Internet use? Interesting find.

Fathom · 28-07-2018 11:37pm

Will examine how they deconstructed Internet more closely. Something to learn?

Black Swan · 31-07-2018 8:18am

Fathom wrote: »

Will examine how they deconstructed Internet more closely. Something to learn?

Indeed.

Fathom · 31-07-2018 5:08pm

Derridean deconstruction of Internet addiction. Some literature. Not much.

mzungu · 03-08-2018 11:30am

Black Swan wrote: »

Interesting observations mzungu. Please clarify and expand.

Given that a lot of the evidence for online addiction seems to be attributable to a whole host of addictive behaviours, I would suggest that it is a symptom of an underlying addiction issue. i do not doubt that it exists, but more that it should be categorised as simply an addiction. At present, are studies examining it within the confines of research to date in the area? If so, then the results are always going to back up the idea that it exists, as opposed to finding out whether these people had addictive personalities before. We should also remember, that as new evidence emerges, ideas can be refined and what was designated as an addiction today, may not be in a few years time when we know more about it.

mzungu · 03-08-2018 11:34am

Black Swan wrote: »

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Postmodern philosophy has not been well received, especially in America, and Jacques Derrida was probably the best known in this domain. His challenge of dichotomies alone threatened classical and modern philosophies that relied upon determining truth vs falsehood.

Wrongly in my opinion. I would be critical of a lot of postmodern theories, but I would not throw out the baby with the bathwater. There is a lot there that is useful, and also a lot that is not.

Black Swan wrote: »

Popper's theoretical contributions were without doubt significant to today's scientific method.

I wonder? Could someone deconstruct the theories applied, or empirical research cited, or diagnoses used (to define, measure, explain, predict, or treat Internet addiction)?

I think trying to falsify it would be as good a place as any to start, and that goes for a lot of research. Hence, if one would like to get to the bottom of internet addiction, Popper would be a good place to start.

Fathom · 04-08-2018 2:33am

Cautions that some Internet addiction studies are anecdotal. Case studies.

Black Swan · 04-08-2018 4:57am

The scholarly literature pertaining to Internet addiction appears to be decontextualising from long established forms of addiction to the specific Internet variety. To what extent could this be misleading or spurious? And as suggested above, case study research is highly subjective at the individual unit of analysis, nonrepresentative, and cannot be generalised to a population of Internet users or abusers.

mzungu · 04-08-2018 9:20pm

Black Swan wrote: »

The scholarly literature pertaining to Internet addiction appears to be decontextualising from long established forms of addiction to the specific Internet variety. To what extent could this be misleading or spurious? And as suggested above, case study research is highly subjective at the individual unit of analysis, nonrepresentative, and cannot be generalised to a population of Internet users or abusers.

Would this leave us at the junction where we would need to hold off another decade or three and wait until a sufficient body of work has been published before we can examine whether this could be an actual specific addiction, rather than just a general addiction?

Fathom · 05-08-2018 5:10pm

mzungu wrote: »

Would this leave us at the junction where we would need to hold off another decade or three and wait until a sufficient body of work has been published before we can examine whether this could be an actual specific addiction, rather than just a general addiction?

It literature is to inform policy. Yes.

mzungu · 05-08-2018 8:42pm

Fathom wrote: »

It literature is to inform policy. Yes.

Presently the cart has gone before the horse!

Black Swan · 07-08-2018 1:06pm

Media and politics driven decisions don't always make for good policy.

Fathom · 07-08-2018 5:38pm

mzungu wrote: »

Presently the cart has gone before the horse!

Normal state of cultural affairs.

Black Swan wrote: »

Media and politics driven decisions don't always make for good policy.

Typical backwards approach.

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