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Chih-Hung Ko, et al in Factors Predictive for Incidence and Remission of Internet Addiction in Young Adolescents: A Prospective Study, CyberPsychology & Behavior, Volume: 10 Issue 4: August 21, 2007, concluded: "High exploratory excitability, low reward dependence, low self-esteem, low family function, and online game playing predicted the emergency [emergence?] of the Internet addiction."

Makes me wonder where the threshold exists between modern day Internet communications levels and "Internet Addiction?" Was this a line-in-the-sand established by clinical professionals with universal agreement, or a threshold that was so highly patient specific that it varied greatly between patients and normal Internet users?

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Fathom

Black Swan wrote: »

Could someone deconstruct the theories applied, or empirical research cited, or diagnoses used (to define, measure, explain, predict, or treat Internet addiction)?

Master's thesis?

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Fathom wrote: »

He's a hard read

Indeed.

mzungu wrote: »

Indeed, navel gazing for the sake of navel gazing. Don't get me wrong, I would not discount all of what he says, and he does have interesting ideas to offer,

Postmodern philosophy has not been well received, especially in America, and Jacques Derrida was probably the best known in this domain. His challenge of dichotomies alone threatened classical and modern philosophies that relied upon determining truth vs falsehood.

mzungu wrote: »

but I think Popper probably offered us a more "useful" philosophy....

Popper's theoretical contributions were without doubt significant to today's scientific method.

mzungu wrote: »

certainly for the purposes of this thread.

I wonder? Could someone deconstruct the theories applied, or empirical research cited, or diagnoses used (to define, measure, explain, predict, or treat Internet addiction)?

Fathom wrote: »

Popper theory. Derrida method.

Precisely. Methinks Derrida was not a philosopher, not having a formally constructed philosophy. Rather, I see him as a philosophical methodologist, with deconstruction his approach.

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mzungu wrote: »

In short, internet addiction may very well be quietly taken out the list of disorders in years to come. The evidence for its existence would not pass Popper's test.

Interesting observations mzungu. Please clarify and expand.

mzungu

Fathom wrote: »

Jacques Derrida held a joint appointment at our university up until his 2004 death. We have all his works in our library. Can't recall reading about any deconstruction of the Internet or associated addiction. He's a hard read, and I have not read all his works. Could of missed it.

Indeed, navel gazing for the sake of navel gazing. Don't get me wrong, I would not discount all of what he says, and he does have interesting ideas to offer, but I think Popper probably offered us a more "useful" philosophy....certainly for the purposes of this thread.

In short, internet addiction may very well be quietly taken out the list of disorders in years to come. The evidence for its existence would not pass Popper's test.

Fathom

Jacques Derrida held a joint appointment at our university up until his 2004 death. We have all his works in our library. Can't recall reading about any deconstruction of the Internet or associated addiction. He's a hard read, and I have not read all his works. Could of missed it.

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Don't imagine Popper anticipated the Internet, although his theory still applies to the research method quite well. Jacques Derrida died in 2004, so he was Internet experienced, but I have not found where he addressed such things as Internet addiction.

Fathom

mzungu wrote: »

Popper would have a good bit more to say than Derrida!

My read. Big orientation difference. Popper theory. Derrida method.

mzungu

Fathom wrote: »

Still reading Popper. I could misinterpret his signature per Jacques Derrida.

Popper would have a good bit more to say than Derrida!

Fathom

mzungu wrote: »

Yes, that answers it perfectly. Thank you

Still reading Popper. I could misinterpret his signature per Jacques Derrida.

mzungu

Fathom wrote: »

Karl Popper's theory of demarcation. Almost any theory can obtain favorable evidence, including those that pertain to Internet addiction. Falsifiability is an approach that should be framed in scientific methods. Proceeds by attempts to refute or falsify theories, models, and explanations. Counter instances are important in that they challenge prevailing notions, and in our case, questioning if Internet addiction is myth.

Uncertain if that answers your question. Only my 2-cents.

Yes, that answers it perfectly. Thank you

Fathom

Karl Popper's theory of demarcation. Almost any theory can obtain favorable evidence, including those that pertain to Internet addiction. Falsifiability is an approach that should be framed in scientific methods. Proceeds by attempts to refute or falsify theories, models, and explanations. Counter instances are important in that they challenge prevailing notions, and in our case, questioning if Internet addiction is myth. Uncertain if that answers your question. Only my 2-cents.

mzungu

Fathom wrote: »

Reading Karl Popper. Leaving door open to falsifiability?

Very interesting Fathom. If I am getting you right (and please correct me if not), studies into internet addiction do not contain any framework for anything other than finding conclusions based around the framework outlined in the study? Hence, this does not contain any framework for falsifiability surrounding internet addiction itself, and therefore does not pass Popper's test?

Fathom

mzungu wrote: »

Interesting. I am not sure I would go down the path of it being a myth,

Reading Karl Popper. Leaving door open to falsifiability?

mzungu

Black Swan wrote: »

Or is there the myth of Internet addiction akin to the suggestions of Thomas S. Szasz?

Interesting. I am not sure I would go down the path of it being a myth, but it is possible that there is an underlying cause that should be treated, and internet addiction could be a manifestation of that.

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mzungu wrote: »

Question is, did internet use bring on the addiction, or was there an addictive personality there prior?

Or is there the myth of Internet addiction akin to the suggestions of Thomas S. Szasz?

mzungu

Fathom wrote: »

Mark Griffiths reported little rigorous empirical evidence that suggested Internet use was addictive. Studies often used anecdotal evidence. Case studies. Method cannot be generalized to population.

Source:
Mark Griffiths, Does Internet and Computer "Addiction" Exist? Some Case Study Evidence, CyberPsychology & BehaviorVol. 3, No. 2, Published Online:5 Jul 2004.

Fathom wrote: »

Outdated DSM-4 criteria for substance use disorders or pathological gambling were adopted in DSM-5. Assessment criteria specific to Internet gaming is needed in terms of content, context, time, etc., with some proposed in DSM-5 making little sense.

Source:
Daniel Kardefelt-Winther, A critical account of DSM-5 criteria for internet gaming disorder, Addiction Research & Theory, Volume 23, 2015 - Issue 2
Published Online: 03 Jul 2014.

Question is, did internet use bring on the addiction, or was there an addictive personality there prior?

mzungu

Black Swan wrote: »

Facebook Addiction yet another variation of the larger Internet addiction? Slicing the pie?

That would be my take on it anyway. Although this is probably one area where you might see a lot more specialise in. In say 20 years, it may be as commonplace as say an addiction counsellor for gambling is today.

Fathom

Black Swan wrote: »

A little contrary evidence to balance out this discussion?

Reading Karl Popper and Hegel.

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A little contrary evidence to balance out this discussion?

Fathom

Outdated DSM-4 criteria for substance use disorders or pathological gambling were adopted in DSM-5. Assessment criteria specific to Internet gaming is needed in terms of content, context, time, etc., with some proposed in DSM-5 making little sense. Source: Daniel Kardefelt-Winther, A critical account of DSM-5 criteria for internet gaming disorder, Addiction Research & Theory, Volume 23, 2015 - Issue 2 Published Online: 03 Jul 2014.

Fathom

Mark Griffiths reported little rigorous empirical evidence that suggested Internet use was addictive. Studies often used anecdotal evidence. Case studies. Method cannot be generalized to population. Source: Mark Griffiths, Does Internet and Computer "Addiction" Exist? Some Case Study Evidence, CyberPsychology & BehaviorVol. 3, No. 2, Published Online:5 Jul 2004.

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Mobile phone texting-while-driving addiction. Across the pond, the National Safety Council reports that mobile phone use while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year.

Fathom

Menu at Cafe Internet Addiction.

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Facebook Addiction yet another variation of the larger Internet addiction? Slicing the pie?

mzungu

Black Swan wrote: »

Huang Xiuqin,, et al., Mental Health, Personality, and Parental Rearing Styles of Adolescents with Internet Addiction Disorder, Cyberpsychology, Behavior, and Social NetworkingVol. 13, No. 4, 16 Aug 2010.

Hong et al. (2014) found that self-inferiority can significantly predict Facebook usage; and having a depressive character and Facebook usage can significantly predict Facebook addiction.

Hong, F. Y., Huang, D. H., Lin, H. Y., & Chiu, S. L. (2014). Analysis of the psychological traits, Facebook usage, and Facebook addiction model of Taiwanese university students. Telematics and Informatics, 31(4), 597-606.

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Huang Xiuqin,, et al., Mental Health, Personality, and Parental Rearing Styles of Adolescents with Internet Addiction Disorder, Cyberpsychology, Behavior, and Social NetworkingVol. 13, No. 4, 16 Aug 2010.

Adolescents with IAD consistently rated parental rearing behaviors as being over-intrusive, punitive, and lacking in responsiveness.

Fathom

Beginning with "Thought" chapters.

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Fathom wrote: »

Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.

As noted elsewhere, recommend skipping introduction, as well as chapters occurring before those that address "Thinking," techo-society, scientific method, and operationalisation. Especially read pre-scientific Galileo historical influences, and Edmund Husserl's critique of how applied science and technology has formed the boundaries of existence, suggesting such addictions would be normal and not dysfunctional in today's positivist technological society.

Fathom

Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.

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mzungu wrote: »

A ban on adults using smartphones is next on the list!

Smartphones use while driving, although outlawed, is one of the leading causes of traffic accidents across the pond.