Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

AndrewJRenko · 04-07-2018 02:04PM

Mikenesson wrote: »

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You know what the amber light is for, right?

If you're too close to stop you keep going

I'm a cyclist myself i've no issue if he's wrong

If you're too close to stop, you're going too fast. Traffic lights are not a surprise. You need to plan for them to change. They change every minute or so.

Zulu · 04-07-2018 02:21PM

neris wrote: »

I know that junction and he had plenty of time to slow down. Was going to fast. My hgv instructor always said 100-150 meters away from a light off the accelerator prepare to stop and if it's green at 50 meters then back on the accelerator coz you'll clear an amber light

WTF are you at posting personal info?

neris · 04-07-2018 02:25PM

Zulu wrote: »

WTF are you at posting personal info?

its public information off a govt website that any one can use

magicbastarder · 04-07-2018 02:30PM

post above showing name and address of driver deleted pending mod discussion

Blanchy90 · 04-07-2018 02:48PM

I'm on a motorbike commuting through Dublin every day so I see my fair share of near misses.

Serious question thought on the Drumcondra road inbound why do some cyclists choose to stay on the road rather than use the cycle path? I cycled that route myself for years and I always thought the cycle lane was pretty decent. (Outbound is a different story with so many pedestrians haha).
I often see close passes here which are definitely the drivers faults

buffalo · 04-07-2018 03:03PM

Blanchy90 wrote: »

I'm on a motorbike commuting through Dublin every day so I see my fair share of near misses.

Serious question thought on the Drumcondra road inbound why do some cyclists choose to stay on the road rather than use the cycle path? I cycled that route myself for years and I always thought the cycle lane was pretty decent. (Outbound is a different story with so many pedestrians haha).
I often see close passes here which are definitely the drivers faults

For me, it's because you can't predict it'll definitely be free of wandering pedestrians and/or dogs and/or litter, glass, etc. And it dumps you out on the inside of a busy bus lane, where you're now overtaking busses on the left who are often about to pull in the stop ahead - a confusing situation and potentially dangerous.

Much simpler to stick to the lane and make sure the drivers are aware of you and generally they're not arseholes and let you continue on. When you suddenly appear on their inside it's difficult for them to judge the best manoeuvre.

site_owner · 04-07-2018 03:11PM

hope this clears it up, he was about 70 meters away when the light went amber. i was travelling about 22-24ish.

CramCycle · 04-07-2018 04:26PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

post above showing name and address of driver deleted pending mod discussion

Reviewed. There is no way to know if the truck was being driven by the person on that list. Going forward, if you have a video, there is no issue with putting it up, licence plates are on public display. You cannot put up personal details of the driver for a variety of reasons. Any issues, via PM please.

Martin567 · 04-07-2018 06:42PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

If you're too close to stop, you're going too fast. Traffic lights are not a surprise. You need to plan for them to change. They change every minute or so.

I wrote about a cyclist who went straight through a red light on Sunday evening and would have clattered into me if I hadn't stopped in the middle of the road. The light was red when he was 20 metres away from it. He just laughed when I shouted at him.

Could you not have posted the above then? Instead you went on about joggers running in cycle lanes which had nothing to do with my post. Apparently you were only putting things "in context".

mloc123 · 04-07-2018 07:17PM

Martin567 wrote: »

I wrote about a cyclist who went straight through a red light on Sunday evening and would have clattered into me if I hadn't stopped in the middle of the road. The light was red when he was 20 metres away from it. He just laughed when I shouted at him.

Could you not have posted the above then? Instead you went on about joggers running in cycle lanes which had nothing to do with my post. Apparently you were only putting things "in context".

Cyclists should stop at red lights. Cars should also stop at red lights. The perception is that only cyclists break red lights... Which we know is not the case. Dickheads break red lights. Dickheads on bikes and dickheads in cars. Neither should be defended.

AndrewJRenko · 04-07-2018 08:37PM

Martin567 wrote: »

I wrote about a cyclist who went straight through a red light on Sunday evening and would have clattered into me if I hadn't stopped in the middle of the road. The light was red when he was 20 metres away from it. He just laughed when I shouted at him.

Could you not have posted the above then? Instead you went on about joggers running in cycle lanes which had nothing to do with my post. Apparently you were only putting things "in context".

Excuse me, but why would you expect MY posts to suit YOUR agenda? If you want to suit YOUR agenda, then YOU make YOUR posts. I'll do MY posts as suit ME, not as suit YOU.

ewc78 · 04-07-2018 09:14PM

Martin567 wrote: »

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

If you're too close to stop, you're going too fast. Traffic lights are not a surprise. You need to plan for them to change. They change every minute or so.

I wrote about a cyclist who went straight through a red light on Sunday evening and would have clattered into me if I hadn't stopped in the middle of the road. The light was red when he was 20 metres away from it. He just laughed when I shouted at him.

Could you not have posted the above then? Instead you went on about joggers running in cycle lanes which had nothing to do with my post. Apparently you were only putting things "in context".

Well said. A bit hypocritical of him alright.

Chiparus · 04-07-2018 09:18PM

Mikenesson wrote: »

Did he actually run the red light or was he too close to stop?

You must stop on amber unless it is unsafe to do so.

Martin567 · 04-07-2018 10:51PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Excuse me, but why would you expect MY posts to suit YOUR agenda? If you want to suit YOUR agenda, then YOU make YOUR posts. I'll do MY posts as suit ME, not as suit YOU.

Thats's told me anyway!

Nice talking to you. You seem like a lovely fellow.

Mizu_Ger · 05-07-2018 08:28AM

I don't frequent this forum much. I cycle to work daily and was hit by a car today (first time ever in 30 years of cycling). The car was turning left onto the main road I was on (from an estate) without stopping and hit me side on. Knocked me off the bike. My left ankle is a bit sore and has a small bruise, otherwise I was just shaken. Bit of a shock as this has never happened to me before. I was wearing helmet, luminous yellow jacket and it was 7am, so nice and bright. Driver just wasn't looking.

The car stopped, reversed back and driver asked if I was okay, offered me a lift or some water (?). I said no and decided to cycle on after I got over the shock (further 9km to work). Should I contact the Gardai over this? My ankle and foot are a bit sore, but I don't think anything's broken.

Mikenesson · 05-07-2018 08:31AM

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I don't frequent this forum much. I cycle to work daily and was hit by a car today (first time ever in 30 years of cycling). The car was turning left onto the main road I was on (from an estate) without stopping and hit me side on. Knocked me off the bike. My left ankle is a bit sore and has a small bruise, otherwise I was just shaken. Bit of a shock as this has never happened to me before. I was wearing helmet, luminous yellow jacket and it was 7am, so nice and bright. Driver just wasn't looking.

The car stopped, reversed back and driver asked if I was okay, offered me a lift or some water (?). I said no and decided to cycle on after I got over the shock (further 9km to work). Should I contact the Gardai over this? My ankle and foot are a bit sore, but I don't think anything's broken.

Make an appointment to see the doctor

amcalester · 05-07-2018 08:32AM

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I don't frequent this forum much. I cycle to work daily and was hit by a car today (first time ever in 30 years of cycling). The car was turning left onto the main road I was on (from an estate) without stopping and hit me side on. Knocked me off the bike. My left ankle is a bit sore and has a small bruise, otherwise I was just shaken. Bit of a shock as this has never happened to me before. I was wearing helmet, luminous yellow jacket and it was 7am, so nice and bright. Driver just wasn't looking.

The car stopped, reversed back and driver asked if I was okay, offered me a lift or some water (?). I said no and decided to cycle on after I got over the shock (further 9km to work). Should I contact the Gardai over this? My ankle and foot are a bit sore, but I don't think anything's broken.

I would. Did you get her details?

And I'd get the bike checked over as well for any damage and send her the bill.

You should probably get the ankle looked at too.

Mizu_Ger · 05-07-2018 08:38AM

I remembered to get the reg no. before I cycled off.

Garda station in my town doesn't open until 10am so I'll give them a call then.

Ferris · 05-07-2018 09:20AM

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I remembered to get the reg no. before I cycled off.

Garda station in my town doesn't open until 10am so I'll give them a call then.

Something similar happened to me recently. Ankle grazed / bruised / sore but I thought it would die down. I left it a month and its still sore, went to VHI swiftcare and got an x-ray and consult and possible chipped bone and definite soft tissue damage. Doctor said I will definitely need physio to avoid future problems.

Long story short, get a medical report from your Doctor and get onto PIAB and register a claim - that's what its there for. You need to protect yourself here, this is not claim culture stuff.

plodder · 05-07-2018 10:14AM

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I don't frequent this forum much. I cycle to work daily and was hit by a car today (first time ever in 30 years of cycling). The car was turning left onto the main road I was on (from an estate) without stopping and hit me side on. Knocked me off the bike. My left ankle is a bit sore and has a small bruise, otherwise I was just shaken. Bit of a shock as this has never happened to me before. I was wearing helmet, luminous yellow jacket and it was 7am, so nice and bright. Driver just wasn't looking.

The car stopped, reversed back and driver asked if I was okay, offered me a lift or some water (?). I said no and decided to cycle on after I got over the shock (further 9km to work). Should I contact the Gardai over this? My ankle and foot are a bit sore, but I don't think anything's broken.

It sounds like you left the scene before the driver, but if that wasn't the case, that's a big no-no as they are obliged to wait for a reasonable time and give you their details. In any case, you are definitely entitled to be compensated for any damage or injuries. So, you should definitely call the gardai to get in contact with the driver. It's possible of course they may have reported the incident already.

CramCycle · 05-07-2018 10:43AM

The gardai should be notified, for future reference, at the time of the incident. It sounds quite civil, and the driver did not do a runner.

The most important thing, all else aside, is to get yourself checked over by a doctor, it might be nothing more than aches and pains for a few weeks but it could be slightly worse and the longer you leave it, the worse it could be.

Alanstrainor · 05-07-2018 10:51AM

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I remembered to get the reg no. before I cycled off.

Garda station in my town doesn't open until 10am so I'll give them a call then.

Always best to take a good 10 minutes just sitting to get over the adrenaline rush. You will be a lot clearer in your own mind as to your condition then. And I'd get the drivers details in that time also. You never feel these things until much later unfortunately.

site_owner · 05-07-2018 10:55AM

same junction, this time the vehicle behind was leaving me plenty of space, but a car on the opposite side of the road saw that as the opportunity to dive across the junction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7L9zxq72c

luckily he did see me and slowed down to adjust his trajectory, but, i guess, realizing he would be blocking the lane for the traffic behind, he never actually stopped and missed my rear wheel by a few feet.

mr spuckler · 05-07-2018 11:02AM

that screenshot from the rear facing camera is pretty shocking tbf.

amcalester · 05-07-2018 11:06AM

Weepsie wrote: »

I'd hope that driver got a proper wake up call when/if s/he realised there were 2 kids there.

Probably not, it's the cyclists fault for not driving a car.

Mikenesson · 05-07-2018 11:14AM

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mloc123 · 05-07-2018 11:18AM

Weepsie wrote: »

I'd hope that driver got a proper wake up call when/if s/he realised there were 2 kids there.

I am sure the driver rationalised it as... "silly cyclist, putting their kids in risk like that. They really should be more careful"

site_owner · 05-07-2018 11:22AM

mloc123 wrote: »

I am sure the driver rationalised it as... "silly cyclist, putting their kids in risk like that. They really should be more careful"

i dont think it even registered, just looked annoyed/surprised/confused that i was blocking him from zipping across the junction.

site_owner · 05-07-2018 11:24AM

mr spuckler wrote: »

that screenshot from the rear facing camera is pretty shocking tbf.

i cant do the face tracking stuff to blur them out so cant post the moving video, but its worse in motion. the "f**k sake" from me was becuase he accelerated to get across after slowing down to avoid me, and i wasnt sure if he was giving the trailer enough room.

Mizu_Ger · 05-07-2018 11:39AM

plodder wrote: »

Mizu_Ger wrote: »

I don't frequent this forum much. I cycle to work daily and was hit by a car today (first time ever in 30 years of cycling). The car was turning left onto the main road I was on (from an estate) without stopping and hit me side on. Knocked me off the bike. My left ankle is a bit sore and has a small bruise, otherwise I was just shaken. Bit of a shock as this has never happened to me before. I was wearing helmet, luminous yellow jacket and it was 7am, so nice and bright. Driver just wasn't looking.

The car stopped, reversed back and driver asked if I was okay, offered me a lift or some water (?). I said no and decided to cycle on after I got over the shock (further 9km to work). Should I contact the Gardai over this? My ankle and foot are a bit sore, but I don't think anything's broken.

It sounds like you left the scene before the driver, but if that wasn't the case, that's a big no-no as they are obliged to wait for a reasonable time and give you their details. In any case, you are definitely entitled to be compensated for any damage or injuries. So, you should definitely call the gardai to get in contact with the driver. It's possible of course they may have reported the incident already.

Okay. First time in this position, so not sure what I should have done. I just noted the car's reg no. I didn't think or getting details off the driver (they never actually got out of the car). That was it. I was able to continue on the bike, but ankle feels a bit sore (nothing major). Gards asked me to call in to the station make a statement. I just want to check that there's no damage to me or the bike.

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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