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Michael Lowry guilty

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭amcalester


    €15K fine for Lowry and €10K for Garuda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Tax avoidance is tax avoidance.


    No its not, the same way all theft isn't the same.
    If someone robs a tv from a shop should they be given the same sentence as someone who steals thousands.
    The time served should reflect the level of the crime.
    Tax avoidance of 1k is a lot different to tax avoidance for 100k.


    Regarding the higher standard for TD fair enough I understand your point not sure I fully agree, ok in this case he didn't necessarily use his position of a td for the crime so maybe it is a bit irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭Odelay


    FFS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    Tax avoidance is tax avoidance.
    cruizer101 wrote: »
    The time served should reflect the level of the crime.
    Tax avoidance of 1k is a lot different to tax avoidance for 100k.

    Tax avoidance is legal, regardless of the amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Would they do a discount for cash I wonder?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,839 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    amcalester wrote: »
    €15K fine for Lowry and €10K for Garuda.

    It looks like no custodial sentence whatsoever. Bit of a joke when you consider the 18 month sentence handed out to Dr Sam Naser for a strikingly similar crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭ooter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Dail expenses for a few months ffs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    A completely disproportionate daft sentence from Nolan. Colour me surprised.

    Did Lowry commit a sexual crime as well to say he got off scott free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...

    Martin Nolan? It's always the ones you don't expect...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...

    How true! I remember when I heard that Mick Wallace had been-shall we say hesitant- about paying in the pension money he had got from his workers- I nearly fainted with surprise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    It looks like no custodial sentence whatsoever. Bit of a joke when you consider the 18 month sentence handed out to Dr Sam Naser for a strikingly similar crime.


    I don't believe Dr Sam ever got any potholes fixed in Tipp !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Corrupt kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    In fairness, he corrected the issue long before tax authorities noticed, so there never was an actual loss to the taxpayer except interest and I believe that and penalties were applied.

    And you can't add punishment just because he's a public figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    There were some other, more serious, offences that he was charged with but they were dismissed earlier in the week due to lack evidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    So a small fine relatively speaking...

    Did anyone expect anything less from "Suspended Sentence" Nolan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Allinall


    About the right result for relatively minor offenses .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Let's face it, a jail term would only have made a bigger martyr out of him and guarantee his Dail replacement a 99% share of votes next election.

    Would hurt him more to have a massive fine imposed but the fine dished out is mere toilet paper to him

    He's laughing as he would probably spend more on a new suit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    This decision was based on classism. Nothing more. Something Martin's well known for. Ireland's progressive in some regards but very backward on issues like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Let's face it, a jail term would only have made a bigger martyr out of him and guarantee his Dail replacement a 99% share of votes next election.

    Would hurt him more to have a massive fine imposed but the fine dished out is mere toilet paper to him

    A jail term could’ve seen him lose his seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    There were some other, more serious, offences that he was charged with but they were dismissed earlier in the week due to lack evidence.

    So? Are you suggesting someone should have made up some evidence?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭Riva10


    This post has been deleted.
    Or a brown envelope .:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    So? Are you suggesting someone should have made up some evidence?


    I really no idea what you read before you posted that but it certainly wasnt my post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Try_harder wrote: »
    Judge Martin Nolan: Appropriate sentence for Michael Lowry, taking into account all of the matters raised, fine of 15,000 euro. For Garuda - 10,000 euro.

    With the help of God he will get those fines reduced on appeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Remember this the next time the FF/FG gangsters tell you that they are tough on crime. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    With the help of God he will get those fines reduced on appeal.

    I think that it's the Devil who looks after his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    The judge is obviously riding him. What a country!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Remember this the next time the FF/FG gangsters tell you that they are tough on crime. :rolleyes:

    Yes it’s fg/fgs fault just like everything in this country that’s bad but not good of course.


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