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Michael Lowry guilty

Zebra3

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0626/973306-michael-lowry-court/

Sentencing due at 3.30 apparently.

Gutted for him. :rolleyes:

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amcalester

€15K fine for Lowry and €10K for Garuda.

cruizer101

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Tax avoidance is tax avoidance.

No its not, the same way all theft isn't the same.
If someone robs a tv from a shop should they be given the same sentence as someone who steals thousands.
The time served should reflect the level of the crime.
Tax avoidance of 1k is a lot different to tax avoidance for 100k.

Regarding the higher standard for TD fair enough I understand your point not sure I fully agree, ok in this case he didn't necessarily use his position of a td for the crime so maybe it is a bit irrelevant.

Fred Swanson

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Odelay

FFS!

Yer Da sells Avon

Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...

Effects

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Tax avoidance is tax avoidance.

cruizer101 wrote: »

The time served should reflect the level of the crime.
Tax avoidance of 1k is a lot different to tax avoidance for 100k.

Tax avoidance is legal, regardless of the amount.

James Bond Junior

Would they do a discount for cash I wonder?

Sierra Oscar

amcalester wrote: »

€15K fine for Lowry and €10K for Garuda.

It looks like no custodial sentence whatsoever. Bit of a joke when you consider the 18 month sentence handed out to Dr Sam Naser for a strikingly similar crime.

ooter

https://twitter.com/Orlaodo/status/1011631289689133059?s=19

20Cent

Dail expenses for a few months ffs.

JMNolan

A completely disproportionate daft sentence from Nolan. Colour me surprised.

Did Lowry commit a sexual crime as well to say he got off scott free?

Birneybau

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...

Martin Nolan? It's always the ones you don't expect...

realdanbreen

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Michael Lowry? It's always the ones you don't expect...

How true! I remember when I heard that Mick Wallace had been-shall we say hesitant- about paying in the pension money he had got from his workers- I nearly fainted with surprise!

realdanbreen

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

It looks like no custodial sentence whatsoever. Bit of a joke when you consider the 18 month sentence handed out to Dr Sam Naser for a strikingly similar crime.

I don't believe Dr Sam ever got any potholes fixed in Tipp !

Zebra3

Corrupt kip.

CeilingFly

In fairness, he corrected the issue long before tax authorities noticed, so there never was an actual loss to the taxpayer except interest and I believe that and penalties were applied.

And you can't add punishment just because he's a public figure.

ohnonotgmail

There were some other, more serious, offences that he was charged with but they were dismissed earlier in the week due to lack evidence.

Ulysses Gaze

So a small fine relatively speaking...

Did anyone expect anything less from "Suspended Sentence" Nolan?

Allinall

About the right result for relatively minor offenses .

Del.Monte

Ten Pin wrote: »

Let's face it, a jail term would only have made a bigger martyr out of him and guarantee his Dail replacement a 99% share of votes next election.

Would hurt him more to have a massive fine imposed but the fine dished out is mere toilet paper to him

He's laughing as he would probably spend more on a new suit.

steddyeddy

This decision was based on classism. Nothing more. Something Martin's well known for. Ireland's progressive in some regards but very backward on issues like this.

Zebra3

Ten Pin wrote: »

Let's face it, a jail term would only have made a bigger martyr out of him and guarantee his Dail replacement a 99% share of votes next election.

Would hurt him more to have a massive fine imposed but the fine dished out is mere toilet paper to him

A jail term could’ve seen him lose his seat.

realdanbreen

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

There were some other, more serious, offences that he was charged with but they were dismissed earlier in the week due to lack evidence.

So? Are you suggesting someone should have made up some evidence?

Riva10

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Or a brown envelope .:D

ohnonotgmail

realdanbreen wrote: »

So? Are you suggesting someone should have made up some evidence?

I really no idea what you read before you posted that but it certainly wasnt my post.

realdanbreen

Try_harder wrote: »

Judge Martin Nolan: Appropriate sentence for Michael Lowry, taking into account all of the matters raised, fine of 15,000 euro. For Garuda - 10,000 euro.

With the help of God he will get those fines reduced on appeal.

Zebra3

Remember this the next time the FF/FG gangsters tell you that they are tough on crime. :rolleyes:

Del.Monte

realdanbreen wrote: »

With the help of God he will get those fines reduced on appeal.

I think that it's the Devil who looks after his own.

jobeenfitz

The judge is obviously riding him. What a country!

Wheeliebin30

Zebra3 wrote: »

Remember this the next time the FF/FG gangsters tell you that they are tough on crime. :rolleyes:

Yes it’s fg/fgs fault just like everything in this country that’s bad but not good of course.